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2 hours ago, BritManToo said:
Candidates are chosen by the wealthy elite .......... not by the electorate.
Elections are a sham competition between two elitist sock puppets (same hands running them), in an attempt to placate the proletariat.
For all the fault's of Trump it's hard to say he was at first brought in by the establishment. The Republicans fought hard to get rid of him in the primaries and it was his rampant supporters that got him in.
Same with Biden. He was on the outer and it was really some black democrats that got him back on track in the southern states.
But once in power, the establishment got behind Trump, and he has filled up the swamp to breaking point.
Hope Biden will be different. His tax and other policies indicate he is.
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Breaking news: Shops pubs etc are opening up in Melbourne on Wednesday. Further relaxations on the 8th of November. No new cases. Feels good. Time to open up.
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44 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:So if they get a few positive tests they will remain in lockdown and if the rolling average rises above 5 cases it's back into lockdown for a few more months,such a depressing outlook for Victoria.
Yeah you can tell in the news tonight people have really had enough. They got a whole lot of test results late in the day. No cases. I'll bet that it will be open in a couple of days.
Still say one over cautious premier doesn't mean lockdowns don't work. He stuffed up the quarantine too.
The other states got it right. I would be seriously p*ssed off tonight if I had a shop or other closed business.
Hope your cows are doing good.
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35 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:I already have good health care insurance, please leave me out of this.
No problem. Biden offers a choice and will let you keep yours. He has a decent plan to make medicine cheaper and to give better access to more people.
Trump, like on so many issues, has no plan. Trump has done so many things on the coat tails of others. If when he got elected he had to start from scratch what would health care be. He has no plan.You and others see him as a no nonsense genius but he's just a flim flam man.
A politician should be making life better for people. It doesn't make you a left wing hippy, kum ba yah person, just to want better for people. I get if Biden was making taxes super high for everyone, or taking away your health care choice, it might have bad ramifications . He's not. He's just making things a bit fairer.
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41 minutes ago, riclag said:
That moron biden just loss his PA win by flip flopping on oil imop
I concur.. not with Biden being a moron but that that really stood out at the rally and he explained it poorly. Not smart for attracting the working class white men. Something for Trump to get his teeth into. They say Pennsylvania is two big cities, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, and the rest is like Alabama.
I give Trump some kudos for his energy but he is mainly preaching to the converted and most people have seen through his nonsense.
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10 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:A Biden win is a loss for Latinos, Blacks, Asians, Whites, and all other ethnicities.
A Trump win is a win for all Americans.
Trump by a landslide.
A Biden win is win for fair pay for hard work, fair tax for those earning over $400,000, a chance at climate change action, decent healthcare for everyone including Trump supporters.
A Trump win is a win for the very rich to get richer, for the sick to get sicker and more people dying, for the American heart to wither away.
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1 hour ago, Bluetongue said:Sorry NZ is not open to any of Australia and has not been at any stage since March. Ardern has stated that there is no intention to open the border before a vaccine. A two travel bubble has been mooted, at the moment it is some one way, NZ can come to some Australian states. The problem for NZ is her stated long term strategy is elimination of the virus, Australia has opted for suppression, supposedly. Even though it might look the same, Australia says it will live with a few cases and suppress every outbreak. Australian state Premiers might not be totally on board with this, and thats a problem. NZ cant open the travel bubble and risk it according to Ardern. In Melbourne today was the long awaited day to reduce restrictions and open businesses. They had reached the long stated target of 5 cases per day average. No, the Premier says, still too dangerous. The political flak this week is going to be intense and so it should be.
I didn't realise the travel was one way so I stand corrected. I am in Melbourne so I ain't going anywhere. As I say in my other comments I think New Zealand and Australia have done a top job but this last bit of closedown in Victoria is over the top. I think local opinion will be not be for the continued lockdown.
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1 hour ago, PatrickC said:
NZ is highly subjective and depends how you measure success.
I heard today that Andrews is extending lockdown. Lucky you. Like a dog chasing its tail, Victoria's lockdown might never end.
I guess you are also in a white collar job and are working from home, so you can support the lockdown easily.
It is usually middle class work from home types who support lockdowns, since they're not losing their jobs. Just let the working classes suffer.
I agreed with the lockdown but I agree they are now taking it too far. Having 6 cases in the northern suburbs and shutting down the whole of Melbourne's 5 million population is now over the top.
I do have a government job working from home so it's fine for me.
My thai ex has a business and has not been able to work for weeks.
750 cases a day means a lockdown is smart but for 6 it's getting ridiculous. The state of New South Wales is open with similar cases.
Before we all get too excited though he is just talking about delaying it for a couple of days until a large amount of test results come back. My guess is he'll announce in a few days that retail and other businesses open next Monday.
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3 hours ago, daveAustin said:
Sorry to say but most Aussies don't realise that most Brits don't give a flying F about you, what you do or even the royal family. This is an old statement and QE2 is your head of state. Vote her out or get over it but PLEASE stop whining on England and put your own fires out.
I think the feeling is returned. Most Australians don't care about the UK. There are few royalists and the mainly female magazine readers who love all the royal family stuff.
I think few feel passionate about keeping the queen, and the majority would prefer she was gone, but I think the Australian nature is to be suspicious of change.
Malcolm Turnbull, who ran the Republic program, was a bit arrogant and unpopular back then, and there were disputes about what shape it should take.
I just think many people don't care but I bet if it was put to a vote today it would get up.
If the queen goes it will happen.
I don't want to get all politically correct but if you think about what the Commonwealth represents, and the subjugation of so many people over time, and the patheticness of the royal family, they really should go. I'm starting to feel fired up.
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It is a good time to buy in Australia. With a bad economy, and with China playing games with iron, cotton, and now wine imports, you can get a half decent wine in Australia, as Odysseus said, for around $10 and a really decent wine from $20 up. Some nice wineries around here.
China are saying that Australia is dumping wine or getting subsidies and sending general bad messages to the Chinese public about Australia.
I haven't eaten reptiles but when I was in Komodo I saw a big reptile eat a goat.
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12 minutes ago, BritManToo said:
How was Hillary Vs Trump before the election?
I was watching a story how a lot of the polling companies accepted they made methodology mistakes last time and have adjusted there polling methods to take this into account. Therefore the poll results should be much more accurate.
I am so sorry that you and others will be disappointed but you have till January to see him retweet dodgy conspiracy theories and be a general tool.
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A concern is that Biden's comments on the oil and gas industry shutting down could be another Hillary 'Shut The Coal Mines' moment. His fracking comment didn't go so well either. Trump's good at getting people fired up about stuff like that.
I think the election is likely to be lost for Trump with all the voting so far but it could effect the senate.
Biden needs to get the message out that he is talking longer term and not short term without upsetting his left supporters who want real action on climate change.
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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:I guess you don't actually know what is going on in NZ except what the Ardern loving media tells you.
If they couldn't stop the virus by closing the airport I'd be very surprised, but unfortunately, despite having over 6 months to sort out quarantine they blew it with people still absconding.
Tracing- lol. Despite having 6 months to sort it they did nothing except an app, whatever that is, that is only for people with those expensive phones. The rest of us had to sign in on paper, and since level 1 started I'd be surprised if more than a few sign the bit of paper so, so much for the 25 cases "today".
most people supported a tough lockdown so it worked.
Even the minister of health didn't conform to the lockdown rules. He wasn't alone.
Problem NZ has now, is that there are about 5 million people that have no immunity, and soon as they have people coming in without 2 week quarantine what do you think is going to happen?
I risk getting boring with quoting New Zealand figures but as Jeffr2 pointed out..it is what it is. Being from Australia I am not up to date with every step in what happened, but to point out that a small number including the health minister, did the wrong thing, is not to take away from the fact that your Prime Minister showed strong leadership, and got the job done. The election results last week show the degree of her popularity.
If you are suggesting herd immunity was a better outcome that shows a disregard for the lives of other New Zealanders.
You are open to most of Australia now, which has few cases, so it shouldn't be an issue and I'm sure she'll open up to other countries when the time is right. Keeping your people safe, until a vaccine, is something New Zealanders and Australians can be proud of.
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17 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:joe's problem goes further than stuttering, he has that far away, glazed look in his eyes. As he's trying so hard to understand what's being said. Whereas Trump is quick and doesn't miss a beat when replying.
Jim Carrey picks up on that Biden look well on Saturday Night Live. Biden may be slower but Trump is way way ahead on dopey comments.
I don't mind having a President who takes his time to make a good decision, rather than a President who just goes by what comes into his head, or what he sees on Fox News or how it benefits himself. He says he goes by gut instinct but that's a concern when you think you are a genius but you are not.
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That was a good debate.
Covid - Trump lost as he sounded silly at times and said the same old stuff.
Hunter Biden - Trump didn't get far with that.
Immigrant kids missing parents and poor blacks near polluted oil fields - Trump sounded like he didn't care.
Oil industry - Trump might win a few votes by focussing on green plans to move away from oil.
Joe Biden's long career and eight years in office without achieving these things - Trump did well on this but now he's had 4 years too.
Biden was good today. He does falter at times but as others have said he has a real stutter - there's no sign of mental decline - he's a bit slower. He gave good answers and held up his own end.
Trump had to win and I don't think he did. Biden is looking good.
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4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:Trump has released the entire 60 minutes interview already, so ABC can't selectively edit it to make him look bad. Plenty about that on internet.
I think Trump's video of the 60 minutes interview doesn't make him look good. Constant whining. Embarrassing on health care - she pushed him and he just keeps saying he has a plan but doesn't have a plan. Bad answers on the virus and rallies. The best Trump has come up with is that she's biased and for a few minutes she had her mask off.
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3 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:I suspect you are right. Trump only has one job to do in this debate. Bring the Biden's uncomfortable dealings to the fore and wipe the moderators face in the coverup. He has played an ace card already, Biden will not be laughing about this-
Mr Bobulinski claims that he was CEO of Sinohawk Holdings, a firm that he alleged was “a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family", Fox News reported.
The Independant did not bother to report that Mr Bobulinski is one of the participants in the damning emails, and he has confirmed Biden seniors involvement. This will be very intimidating for Mr Biden IMO. Hope he can keep his stuff together.
I don't know a lot about it, but a key point is that the time that Mr Bobulinki is talking about, was when Biden was no longer Vice President. That's an important point.
Then they have to show that Joe Biden actually did something wrong which I think they have failed to do in this and other examples e.g. Ukraine. In the Ukraine case Biden helped remove a prosecutor that was widely regarded as corrupt in the US and Europe.
The problem for the Republicans is it's like the boy who cried wolf - Trump, Giuliani and Bannon have told so many lies and have so little credibility that many have stopped listening. Look at Giuliani with his hands down his pants just yesterday. So far it's just Murdoch media and right wing sites paying much attention but I guess we'll see if it becomes something bigger.
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The 60 minutes interview that Trump just released made him look pretty bad. He still seems a bit shocked when people don't suck up to him like Fox News and his inner circle.
Hopefully he'll do similar today and keep whinging about how everything's unfair, rabbit on about Hunter Biden, say that coronavirus and climate change will just go away, talk about his health care plan that is the best health care plan ever that doesn't exist, and go down in a ball of flames.
Biden was once a great debater so hopefully he can pull out a good one. I'm sure he's got a few good zingers ready to go.
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17 hours ago, PatrickC said:
If lockdowns worked so well, why has covid spread so far and wide globally?
Even in China, it keeps popping up. NZ and Vietnam it has popped back up as well. And Thailand - no real proof that it went away as no mass testing.I'm sorry but we're all over lockdowns. No more - we're done with them. Time to move on and give up on trying something that is just a waste of time and ruins the economy.
You're really extremely fixed on your views. That is clear. And you've the right to be. However we've also the right to oppose them, and it doesn't make up "grannie killers", "fascists" or whatever other accusations you want to sling at us. Throwing names at people with different opinions achieves nothing. Give it up.
New Zealand has had a highly successful lockdown. They have had a little flare up of 25 cases today which they should be able to target through tracing and get the numbers back down. If they had no lockdown who knows where they'd be. Likely a lot worse than 27 deaths.
New Zealand is an island country, with low population compared to crowded European cities etc, and most people supported a tough lockdown so it worked.
There's more evidence of masks being effective too. Czechia brought in masks early and got the cases down quickly but, since they stopped wearing them, cases have gone out of control.
I take your point that lockdowns have a huge cost. I am in Melbourne and from this Sunday we should be able to do most things with around 5 cases per day. It has worked but at a big cost. I personally think it's worth it.
Better to be in Melbourne than in Prague or in many European and US cities that are out of control. If Trump had've just gone all in 6 months ago, and made certain behaviour mandatory for a time e.g. masks, instead of playing politics, they could've done a lot better, in my opinion.
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36 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:
People put off by Obama are already voting for Trump.
The battle has always been the middle ground and decency.
I take your point. I just think there's that working class white men vote who, for right or wrong, saw Obama and Hillary as a bit dismissive of them. They felt that, despite the nice words, 8 years of Obama didn't do much for them. Maybe there's even a bit of racism there. They are both attracted to, and repelled by, Trump and Biden gives them a decent option.
Obama gives a great speech but I think Biden is good at coming across as the 'everyman'. Even Biden's struggle to get the message across sometimes can be seen as likeable and relatable.
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The risk of Obama talking is that it can remind some people of why they voted for Trump 4 years ago. Obama is an excellent speaker, but he can come across to some voters as a bit smug and dismissive when he talks about Trump. Of course, it's hard not to come across that way when talking about a narcissistic dunce like Trump.
in this speech though there were no smug smiles but just a passionate outline of what has happened and a comparison about how America can be in the future. Excellent job. Hopefully followed by a good Biden performance in the debate tomorrow.
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I think Trump's theory is that as long as what he's saying and doing get's talked about, it makes him look like action man, and will help his vote.
Stop to think for a moment that Fauci, who has successfully worked for Presidents' from both parties, is now getting death threats and needs 24 7 security.
I think most people see the end in sight and just don't care what nonsense version of events Trump is trying to sell. His appallingness never fails to disappoint.
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16 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:
Slowing the spread slows down the number of infection and slows down the time it takes for the deaths to occur rather than reducing the number is what I understood the experts were saying.I've heard it said that all pandemics eventually end with or without vaccines which have only been around for a relatively short time historically speaking so I disagree that vaccines are the "only" realistic means of eradicating the virus.I don't disagree that vaccines can be very effective in helping to eradicating the virus.Mankind's immune systems are apparently still quite mysterious and not so well understood so we don't really get the full picture of what is happening in regards to immunity to this virus and is still a work in progress.It's sad what is happening and people are trying to do the best they can to deal with it but deal with it we shall even if some of the things we do are considered mistakes if we can identify the mistakes the we should be able to learn from them.
In terms of the numbers of dead without a vaccine I think it depends on the location. If people are relatively spread out, and you have strong borders , and you have a government that can get most people to cooperate, like New Zealand and Australia, masks and lockdowns can pretty much kill off the disease with relatively few deaths without a vaccine. New Zealand and Australia have now opened borders and as long as little flare ups can be knocked on the head it's all good from here.
New Zealand is the gold standard; a bit over 600 cases and 12 deaths.
In other places though, as you say, it seems the aim at first is just to slow it down so hospitals aren't overwhelmed. But then if they can get their act together they can be like Australia and New Zealand.
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1 hour ago, canuckamuck said:Biden has no chance. Dirtiest candidate in the history of American elections. It's all coming out, despite the legacy medias attempts to ignore it.
It's coming down the home straight. Murdoch and Trump are panicking so its all Hunter through New York Post and Fox News. Old discredited stories. New bits and pieces. But even Chris Wallace on Fox News sees that the story is dodgy at best.
Basically if I get up each day and there's no big news, except for conspiracy theories like this, it's a good day for Biden.
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With time running out, Trump to go on offensive at debate in bid to catch Biden
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When he had the senate for the first two years I think he was focused on the economic recovery. He did that well. Then he lost the senate and was thwarted by Mitch McConnell and friends. So he did underperform a bit. Still did Obamacare which was a big deal.
It's a pity sometimes the president doesn't just have free rein to have their policies for four years and if they muck it up chuck 'em out.