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Putin was not using a metaphor when he said this. It was very plain speaking. But if you require more, there's this: In his most recent comments, Mr Putin explicitly warned the West that Russia would use all available means to defend Russian territory and accused the West of discussing a potential nuclear attack on Russia. "This is not a bluff. And those who try to blackmail us with nuclear weapons should know that the weathervane can turn and point towards them," he said. https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/truth-or-bluff-why-russian-leader-putins-nuclear-warnings-have-the-west-worried

Putin said he would use "all available means'. Unless his babushka does not allow him to play with nuclear weapons, it's crystal clear what he means.

I feel like I'm in oppostie land where talk about a new pipeline to compensate for the loss of a present one is not relevanat, whereas a discussion of Eurpean unity is. I'm just going to ignore your misdiagnoses of the state of the EU. You may come up with lots of factoids about the USA, but the fact that you wrote "even Tucker Carlson" says all we need to know about the depth of your knowledge of the USA. POS 2 is planned to be over twice as long as POS1.

First off, I see you have no answers for the fact that this Sino-Russian pipeline is 8 years away. What's the failing Russian economy going to do in the meantime? Actually, the opposite is the case when it comes to the EU and weakness. The US actually needs it to stay strong. Weakness helps the Russians. And that you actually can write "even Tucker Carlson", a rightwing conspiracy addict, betrays a deep and laughable ignorance of American affairs.

Or panic suspended as long as the BOE keeps on engaging in quantitative easing to buy gilts to finance the pound.

Actually, the long term outlook for natural gas is not good. Renewables are already beginning to outcompete natural gas in generating electricity. And member nations of the EU are accelerating their conversion to wind and solar. So demand from that quarter will be fading rapidly.. 25 percent of natural goes goes mostly to making ammonia for fertilizer. There, too, new low energy techniques have been developed that will eliminate natural gas from that market. In addition there will be a lot more natural gas coming on line from the Cyprus, Israel, and Lebanon for the interim. So the prices won't stay at the elevated levels they are now. And of course it's going to take quite a while to get that pipeline to China up and running. About 8 years, in fact. Power of Siberia 2 to divert Europe-bound gas to China The construction of a second gas pipeline linking Russia and China is expected to commence within two years, a megaproject that will put Mongolia in the middle as the pipe is designed to pass through its high-elevation territory. Mongolia’s Prime Minister Oyun-Erdene Luvsannamsrai said the feasibility study of the “Power of Siberia 2” gas pipeline, which will connect Siberian gas fields to China via Mongolia, has been completed and that construction would begin in 2024, according to a Financial Times report. The pipeline, which will deliver Europe-bound gas from western Siberian fields to China for the first time, is expected to go online in 2030, the Moscow Times reported. https://asiatimes.com/2022/07/power-of-siberia-2-to-divert-europe-bound-gas-to-china/

I made the mistake of assuming that you were sticking to the topic, What has any of that got to do with a thread about the Nordstream gas pipeline ruptures?.

Right. The US wants to help the Russians by making it more difficult for Western Europe to oppose the Russians. And you think Poland is opposed to the fight against Russia? And Meloni, who will be heading Italy, is a very strong supporter of the Ukraine cause.

Price of natural gas shot up after pipeline incident. That hurts western Europe

A further observation just occurred to me? Trump to be the "adult in the room"? Realy? That would be a first.

More likely the US govt wants to deal with as few potential hostages as possible.

You think otherwise he would have returned?

Because there's no options except headlnes and 45 minute videos? You should have done what you later did which is to identify where the comments in question were located. That said, what is it with Putin supporters and videos? Is some kind of outbreak of dyslexia afflicting supporters of the Russian invasion of Ukraine? Or is that among some reading is just a lost skill?

.I must have briesfly dozed off. That said, the former French ambassadaor specifically say's he's only speculating. And the other commentator actually said the the gas pipeline ruptures shows what Russian can do. I have found no other evidence anyhere to back up her vague claim about some sort of negotiations between Russia and Europe that Russia gets 20% of Ukraine in exchange for Russian natural gas. Is this all you've got? Is that what you base your assertions on?

About that $200 billion giveaway for energy bills. The reason it's so large is that it's not targeted. So everyone gets the same percentage discount instead of it being targeted at the people who will suffer most. As the IMF and others have pointed out making that feel far more expensive than it needs to be and still skimping on aid to those who need it the most.

There's a big difference between 10% and 20% or more.

The world's best negotiator? On what basis do you support that position? Certainly not Trump's business history. He repeatedly got out negotiated at the negotiating tables when he purchased various businesses and had to declare bankruptcy. If the people from The apprentice hadn't come along and offered him a position Trump would be remembered today has the guy who drove his father's real estate empire into the ground.

Usually, I wouldn't want such an extended video. And I imagine you were counting on that. But because it looked legitimate, had interesting people on, and was stuck somewhere with nothing to do, I decided to watch the whole thing. There was absolutely nothing in that video concerning a proposal for Russia and Ukraine to settle on a 20% territorial concession. Nor was there anything about the sabotage of the Nord stream pipeline. However the discussion did make some very interesting points. For instance that the reason Kazakhstan is standing up to Putin is that China is backing it. And that India is backing off supporting Russia because Russia is no longer supporting the arms that India has purchased from Russia. In fact I didn't hear anything in that video that could be construed as in any way supporting Russia's version of events. You've got nothing except falsehoods.

It's not about how the rich live. It's about how the shrinking middle class, working class, and poor live.

*Deleted post edited out* One person who didn't get blindsided was Biden. His administration was saying for months that Russian intended to invade Ukraine.

I see you just read my sentence about Clarence Thomas. There's more after that.

First off, Clarence Thomas disagreed. And Judge Alito didn't say it wouldn't happen. He just said that the Dobbs decision had no relevance. It may have no legal relevance but given his views and the fact that he rejected a doctrine of long standing, and the gay marriage decision is not of long standing, it does have predictive relevance.

The great economist once wrote "There's a great deal of ruin in a nation." His ironical point being that people cry ruin too easily at an unfortunate turn of events. But Truss seems determined to prove that while there may be a great deal of ruin in a nation, if a policy is bad enough, a nation can be ruined.

Sunak would have been more than bad enough to assist Labour.

Thank you for your explanation.