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So if after the room bit of quarantine someone tests positive, whole hotel shut down? And what of the staff, surely they will not be allowed to leave the hotel either? Lack of detail on the what if.
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3 hours ago, dcnx said:
How easy is it to get tested there? Do they have a testing center there or is it know that one of the hospitals is where everyone goes?
If you don’t know, then they are probably not testing a lot there.
I asked our gardener, Burmese, just last week if he had been tested yet or if anyone he lives with has. He said it no because it was too expensive. I thought I had read it was free for them now, and it might be, but they don’t know it.
Also have to take the view that if they have no symptoms, or just mild symptoms, why would anyone risk getting incarcerated in hospital or detention centre for an undefined amount of time.
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6% rate, not good and still 1681 to get results, lets hope they can nip it in the bud.
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4 hours ago, KannikaP said:
He knows that the cunning little virus knows the difference between traders, employees and customers, as it also knows when it is 10pm, curfew time.
Or he knows that the government can control the numbers detected by just reducing tests carried out. Take UK now, 1.5 million tests a day, mix of PCR and lateral cross flow, cases 5-6000 per day, incidence of about 0.3% positive, actually quite low. Thailand average 3000 tests a day, 50-60 cases average, incidence of 2% from tests. Let people make up their own minds if covid is present in greater numbers than been reported.
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7 hours ago, Oldie said:
It would be interesting to know how much testing is done and where in Thailand. Let's take Chonburi - is there no (t enough) testing or really no Covid? Are the numbers of tests anywhere on the Internet?
You can find out testing figures on MOPH Thai website, one day ago about 3000 I think roughly, but as to where they are testing??
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Only way to open your country is to vaccinate your people. How you work area quarantine, stop all unvaccinated Thais entering or leaving that area too?
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8 hours ago, brommers said:
To put it quite simply the government does not want to lose face by having private hospitals beating it in the race to start mass vaccination. Total reliance on a single vaccine from a company that has a deplorable track record in Europe & the USA, plus allowing it to select a local manufacturing partner with no experience in vaccine production, and indeed no production facility until it recently started construction has put this country is at grave risk. Look at how Astra Zeneca has caused huge disruption to vaccination programmes and you clearly see what is hoing to happen here. And this will cause untold further damage to the tourism industry and the livelihood of millions. By using it's stranglehold on the actions of private hospitals further compounds the folly and prevents those willing to pay, and so save the country money, from obtaining critically needed medical services. Shame on the junta.
Absolutely agree with the first part, Thai government is fearful of private hospitals putting their vaccine programme to shame and out performing the pitiful 3000 vaccines administered per day.
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Must have announced they were coming around to check ????????
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If no other infections occur from this policeman it will be the Thai miracle again, just like the Khao San Road DJ.
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2 hours ago, dinsdale said:
Please show us where you are getting these figures from. I do agree with you though except the testing numbers.
https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/situation.php or https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/situation.php. Thai site is updated regularly but English version sometimes goes several days without refreshing information.
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48 minutes ago, owenm said:I find it very difficult to understand the reported Covid-19 cases from Samut Sakhon, when the daily reported cases over the past few weeks have been floating around 45-95, down from 700-300 daily in the weeks prior. How many daily covid tests are conducted to find these positive cases? Then how many outer rings of contacts are tested and further isolated and locked down?
In Australia you have your initial positive cases, then family and close friends and work colleagues, shops, shopping centres, public transport and taxis visited or used are then your first ring of contacts due to the highly contagious nature of this virus. They are then tested and put into ISO for 14 days. Then their families, friends and close contacts become the second ring to be locked down and tested. Then their contacts become the third ring and are also locked down only until a negative test result.
In Melbourne, Australia there was a recent state lockdown due to a handful of positive cases, where daily tests have been 15,000 to 23,000.. For each positive case, with their 1st, 2nd and 3rd ring of contacts, can grow to 100+ close and indirect contacts and businesses visited. And the cases can grow fast, from 1 to 10 to 90 to 500 to thousands, unless adequate testing numbers take place daily, and fast effective contact tracing where cases emerge. A large contingent of professional contact tracing staff need to be employed to prevent further spread of covid. With the incubation period of up to 14 days, numbers will usually exponentially grow and when contained will contract with reduced cases.
But the daily Thai positive cases are constantly floating around for weeks on end, up and down.. Not usual characteristics of this highly contagious Covid-19 virus..
Either Thailand isn't testing enough people in the 13 provinces, where a recent cluster has grown to 635 reported cases, or there may possibly be thousands of hidden cases in the community that haven't been found yet, due to inadequate testing numbers..
They've recently been showing about 3000 test per day, for the whole country, when cases were in high hundreds, testing mostly migrant quarantine, they were about 10-12000 per day. As stated by CCSA the cost was too high so they scaled back and were mulling the idea of using antibody tests as much cheaper, although useless at controlling numbers, but good to see who may have had the virus previously. To my knowledge no news has been published from these antibody testing. As seen recently most cases are from people reporting to hospitals due to voluntary testing or they are ill enough to go to hospital. The system does not encourage people to seek tests because the risk of been locked in isolation in hospital or one of the internment, sorry, quarantine facilities. Obviously infections are not as prevalent as some countries but reporting 50-100 cases a day, these people are not getting a miracle solitary infection. I've always said that the situation in Thailand with covid defies all the laws of nature of this virus.
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If goes ahead, que the overpriced rooms, food and drink. Captive market just like normal ASQ.
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8 hours ago, daveAustin said:
Yes, what a hypocrite!
Anyhoo, Thailand having such low numbers, what's the difference? Does he know something?
Maybe he does know something, just read in another online paper a quote from one of the boffs at Chulalongkorn University, that CCSA did not report 100 cases found in a factory or plant in Samut Sakhon recently, maybe because all interred in one place?
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At least he preempting the blame on Thai population this time. Strange Thai blame Myanmar for covid wave, Cambodia blame China, Thailand and Vietnam, Vietnam blame Cambodia and China, yet all report very low rates of infections. Me thinks that there is something amiss with the figures. If all have such small numbers of local infection what are the chances of passing it into each others countries.
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Needs to be contained, reporting such low numbers why is he worried, or is it because of low testing he actually has no idea of the true spread from that cluster?
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I'm going to stick a needle in your arm, soreness expected. Did the two who suffered sickness eat together?
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So round it up to 6000 rooms, average 1.5 people per room, 9000 people, rotating every 2 weeks equals 18000 per month. Wonder where the 5 million comes from?
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13 hours ago, dinsdale said:"As has been consistent with cases during the new wave of infections in the country, most were discovered during testing of migrant workers at quarantine facilities and hospitals in Samut Sakhon."
I believe this not to be the case. The wording suggests most positives are from quarantine facilities. Most are hospital presentations. Apart from this it would seem that Prathum Thani has the most positives reported from yesterday.
Misinformation, poor journalism, a mistake who knows.
And have you noticed they have stopped saying how many are immigrants and how many are Thai in the last few days, pretty sure majority are now Thai locals
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Missing the point, he caught it from someone who is walking around with the virus, it didn't just land on him from nowhere, the virus is still circulating and he is unlikely to be the only one who has been infected from that person.
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3 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:
If you look at the dates of the peaks in each of the graphs there's a 2 week difference.The number of tests peaks on the 12 Jan and the number of reported cases peaks on the 2nd of Feb.On Feb 2nd the number of tests had halved to about 2000 tests per day which would bump the positivity rate up by double.The lag between the two graphs might indicate it took 2 weeks to actually report the number of positive cases, but we wouldn't know because they are not exactly transparent.
I posed the question too before about how long between testing, officially recording and publishing, look at the UK PHE charts and you begin to see how complicated it is to understand, plus add in a possible delay of up to two weeks until an infection shows or is detectable.
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With such low reported numbers of covid in Thailand, vaccinations are going to do little to boosting the economy, plus near impossible to track how well the vaccine is working within the population.
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1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said:Seems like testing numbers have been falling lately.
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-testing#how-many-tests-are-performed-each-day
If they kept testing at 10k plus a day and numbers were falling you could say then that infection was decreasing, but as you say, tests falling, numbers falling so hard to tell.
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When you look at the numbers it's not true that most were found in testing of migrants, it's roughly 50/50. And most cases are now been found in hospital walk-ins. Obviously testing if migrant internment is winding down now and as everyone knows, unless a person is quite ill or worried, the enforced stay in hospital for a positive covid test is a deterrent from going to get tested.
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Thainess again, lots of official paper stamping, box ticking. I said before their aim to vaccinate by end if year was doable, with all these steps and waiting to be monitored for 30 minutes, will drastically reduce the number that can be vaccinated in a day.
UK’s new quarantine rules could impact people travelling from Thailand
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Quarantine at home, no daily exercise outside of property, no shopping trips either. You do not leave your place of quarantine.