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Morch
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12 minutes ago, retarius said:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/01/jabalia-camp-airstrike-gaza
Imaginary? See the photographic evidence. Your blindness disturbs to wilful war crimes me. You are simp[ly a shrill for Israeli war crimes.
Do you know what a cluster bomb is?
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15 minutes ago, placeholder said:
About that claim that Hamas is using tunnels between it and Egypt to transport weapons:
Not only has Egypt for its own reason been very diligent about patrolling the zone, but even smugglers says that smuggling has stopped thanks to Egypt's strict enforcement. You can read about it in the article I linked to above.
In fact, Egypt and Israel have been cooperating very closely on enforcement of the Gaza Egypt border.
Obviously, neither Egyptian diligence nor the fabled cooperation were tight enough.
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17 minutes ago, retarius said:
Whilst I agree with you that we need a two state solution now, I'd say that the UN erred gravely when they bowed to Jewish terrorism in the post war period and recognised Israel. It is now time to undo that mistake.
The UN did not 'bow' to anything.
And given that you're issues are with Jews, rather than Israel, your comments are to be expected.
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19 minutes ago, retarius said:
Your total disregard of human life and compassion for humanity disturbs me.
More faux 'outrage' and moral grandstanding from an openly antisemitic poster, who's also a Putin fan, and got little issues with Hamas's actions.
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20 minutes ago, placeholder said:
To state the obvious: stronger.
That's great.
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19 minutes ago, placeholder said:
The subject of this thread is the Israeli assault on Rafah. It was launched yesterday at 6:47 AM Nowhere in htis has this issue been discussed & settled. Apparently, you believe that whatever conclusions you reached elsewhere are somehow dispositive.
Another lame deflection? I was obviously referring to your hyping of the Egypt angle bit.
Apparently you believe that asserting what other posters believe, regardless if they said anything regarding it, is the way to conduct 'discussions'.
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14 minutes ago, placeholder said:
To the point of denial of reality.
Let's take them one by one
1) Egypt doesn't really believe this:. It's undeniable that that the Israeli assault on Rafah will create huge pressure on the refugees to flee. So where are they going to go? Back North through a war zone? Why wouldn't Egypt believe a Palestinian cross-border incursion is a very strong and credible possibility? As for Israel no longer trying to do get Egypt to let the Palestinians in ... as I'm sure you're aware, Israel has been pressuring Egypt to let it take over security on the southern border of Gaza. Egypt is seriously unhappy about that. Is it unreasonable for the Egyptians won't suspect that Israel has a lot less stake in keeping the border non-porous heading south than does Egypt? Put this under the heading of More Than One Way to Skin a Cat.
2)It's Hamas' fault: The all purpose justification. This of course depends on the belief that the strategy and tactics that Israel is employing are necessary. The US certainly is increasingly unhappy with the way Israel has prosecuted this war.
3) Reversibility. Why wouldn't the Israelis wouldn't use Facts On The Ground to their advantage? That it wouldn't find reasons not to let the Palestinians back in?
Allow me to doubt that you know what Egypt 'believes'. You can quote what Egypt says, but that's not necessarily the same thing. A whole lot of the various statements made (by all sides involved) are aimed at broadcasting warnings, rather than accurately expressing acute fears, intentions and so on.
What I am sure of is that there were reports (some linked on these topics) discussing Israel and the IDF awareness of the issues, and mulling ways to address it. Several options were outlined, granted none of them seems a fully satisfactory one. And as far as I'm aware, and as others mentioned - Israel trying to convince Egypt to take in Palestinians is something that happened weeks and months ago. Egypt refused, rejected, and that was that.
You want to offer an argument where this got nothing to do with Hamas's choices, tactics, and it's all down to Israel and the IDF's actions - go right ahead. You do not offer anything in support of this, nor much of an alternative. Or even a way of addressing the current situation.
I've no idea where you're going with your last nonsense point, sorry.
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5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:
and then they put a blockade on it, turning it into a huge prison.
There is no excuse for israel's collective punishment which is a crime against humanity.
The blockade was put in place due to Hamas's agenda and actions. It was not always there. You want to insist on not linking the two, that's up to you.
You say 'no excuse', there were even UN views that it's legit.
Also, not a word about this being upheld by Egypt as well.
This was done over so many times, it's impossible that you're not aware of details.
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5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:
They've also been arresting hundreds of West Bank Palestinians and holding them without charge. IMO a vile regime that uses force to subdue an illegally occupied population.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67600015
How Israel jails hundreds of Palestinians without charge
And this topic ain't about that.
You people seem to have real issues addressing the OP.
One would have thought there's enough bashing material in it as it were.
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5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:
Sooooo, posting the images violates the IDF code of conduct, but nothing to say about the atrocities being done to Palestinians.
Well, you're not too concerned with atrocities committed by Hamas, so why whine?
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7 hours ago, bannork said:
Topic ain't about the West Bank. Or Israeli illegal settlements. Try reading the headline.
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9 hours ago, bannork said:
They've just been seizing Palestinian land for decades.
That's not what the topic is about.
And as this is focused on the Gaza Strip, not even directly relevant.
Try harder.
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13 hours ago, bannork said:
Yes I have, It's not my fault your memory is poor.
Israel is behaving just like Hamas, wanton killing of innocent civilians.
Both sides are murderous butchers.
What you do is what many of your ilk go for: a short one liner bit 'condemning' Hamas, then going on about Israel. Often comes with some false equivalency disregarding facts or even immediate context.
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1 minute ago, WDSmart said:
The way I see it, ALL the criticism here from you and several others is directed at Palestine. That's anti-Semitic in my book. I've repeatedly said I would like to see a one-state solution where both parties could live in peace on equal terms, but that now seems impossible. I now recommend a two-state solution based generally on the UN's 1947 map the proposed when they recognized the state of Israel.
The way you see things is odd, on a good day.
I'm not a government, or a country. My criticism and commentary do not carry much weight in the real world.
Your nonsense definition games are tiresome, and were addressed. Even if you had a point, criticizing Palestinian policies would not be that.
You say a whole lot of things, most of them unrealistic, or got little to do with facts.
And your comment is yet another deflection - not really much to do with what I posted about.
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50 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:
You have told us on the forum that you know about space, but you didn't say anything about being a medical doctor, or having psychiatric qualifications.
Besides if you are saying that as a fact you need to prove it. Weren't you telling some other poster to provide a link just yesterday?
You routinely make similar comments, and you don't even know anything much about space....
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1 hour ago, frank83628 said:
just anti war and anti bully, dont see Russia putting it's weapons all over the world, destroying countries, killing millions of people and killing heads of state
not pro Trumps either really, but better him than Killery the warmonger. i would have preferred Bernie but the DNC cheated him out of itYou're pro-war, when it comes to Russia attacking Ukraine.
You're pro-bully when supporting Putin, Trump.
Russia is actually trying to build back it's empire and do exactly what you pretend to be against. As Mom said, you see what you want to see.
Not a pro-Trump? Tell that to someone not familiar with your many posts on here. Using bogus names for rivals demonstrates both your leanings, and emulation of Dear Leader's ways.
Sure, you're pro-Sanders. I believe you. Maybe as an easier to bit candidate for Trump.
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6 minutes ago, placeholder said:
Do ya think their fears have gotten stronger, stayed the same, or gotten weaker since Israel announced its intentions to stage in a major operation in Rafah?
What do you think?
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11 minutes ago, placeholder said:
Another reflexive counter argument. What is news is that Israel is apparently planning to launch a major assault on Rafah where roughly 1.45 million Palestinians have sought refuge. You think that's irrelevant to Egypt's fear about Mass cross-border immigration? That it doesn't change the odds?
What's irrelevant is your hyping of things which were already discussed, and apparently settled.
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24 minutes ago, retarius said:
Blinken is a sock puppet. US needs to cut all ties with Israel and all aid; and kick the dual citizens (US/Israeli or US/Anywhere else) out of Congress and the Senate. Enough all ready. I don't want my tax dollars to go to support massacres of Palestinian women and children. How can a 2000lb cluster bomb be called aid????????????
Coming from an openly antisemite, dictator-loving poster, that's not a surprising point of view.
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43 minutes ago, Neeranam said:
Incredible, you make things up to fit your Zionist agenda.
Make up things how, exactly?
And what 'agenda' would that be?
Try harder, little troll.
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43 minutes ago, Neeranam said:
More insults reflect your inablitity to have a grown up conversation.
Do you deny Netanyahu wants all Gazans out of Gaza?
Do you believe Netanyahu govt is right wing?
Maybe time to phone a friend 😉
Netanyahu reported to be lobbying EU governments to pressure Egypt to take in refugees
My comment was an accurate reflection on your post, and posting style.
You are either unable to comprehend what you read, or just post stuff without much care for context, relying on headlines to make your 'point'.
The link above is not quite what the previous derailing attempt you tried said.
Maybe time to give it a rest.
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18 minutes ago, placeholder said:
We've had some posters here scoffing at the notion that one of Israel's goals in this war is to drastically lower the Palestinian population of Gaza. I think at this point a good argument could be made that Israel has been gaslighting about its intentions. And it looks like Egypt is at least open to that argument:
Egypt Warily Eyes Gaza as War Builds Pressure on Its Border
Egypt has reinforced its frontier with Gaza and warned Israel that any move that would send Gazans spilling into Egyptian territory could jeopardize their decades-old peace treaty.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/10/world/middleeast/egypt-gaza-israel-war.html
I anticipate a few counterarguments:
1)The mindreading argument: Egypt doesn't really believe this. It's just for public consumption
2) It's Hamas' fault: If Hamas surrendered, there would be no need to force Palestinians into Egypt.
3)Reversibility: Even if these refugees do flee across the border, that doesn't mean that Israel won't let them back in.
Keep in mind that during the early part of of the war, Israel actually negotiated with Egypt to allow refugees from Gaza to cross into Egypt. Egypt refused.
And them counterarguments you outline are to the point. Your assertions, not so much.
keep in mind that after Egypt refused, Israel neither tried to do so anyway, nor was the subject featured much later on.
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1 hour ago, WDSmart said:
It looks like another three or four (or maybe it will be recorded as 20) "Hamas terrorists" the IDF can add to their breakdown of the number of Palestinians they have successfully eliminated in Gaza.
Five-year-old Palestinian girl found dead after being trapped in car under Israeli fire | CNN
Coming from someone who just advocated Hamas hold on to Israeli children taken hostage for as long as possible, releasing them last - kinda hard to take your 'concern' and 'outrage' at face value.
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1 hour ago, simple1 said:
The OP is not related to Arab countries response, but to USA.
Your deflection aside, my comment holds anyway.
Most of the criticism, pleas and so on are directed at Israel.
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Biden's own DOJ says he is an 'elderly man with a poor memory': Classified document case
in World News
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Pushes pro-Russian talking points. Goes on about Western propaganda.
Your pro-Trump angle also fits with Russia's interests.
And the usual inability to refer to politicians by name, rather resorting to insults, and such is, again, a Trump hallmark.
Looking their mind? Considering the froth you work up on these topics, it's amusing.