SunnyinBangrak

Now you have really lost me. We are on a thread discussing the NEW PROVEN FACTS that Hunter Biden was omitted from white house visitor logs. This is dishonest behaviour, certainly not what we expect from the "most transparent administration" ever, so it is certainly newsworthy. Now why was this omitted?

If you don't want me discussing the topic of this thread on the thread designated to discus it, what are we supposed to be talking about? Maybe the 2 people that liked your post could answer?

Another not widely reported snippet, which paints a grim picture of a likely stressful attempt at an urgent/emergency ascent before imploding, rather than the blissfully unaware happy one minute gone the next scenario most are assuming. "They probably had warning that their hull was starting to delaminate and starting to crack," he said. "It's our belief, we understand from inside the community, that they had dropped their ascent weights, and they were coming up, trying to manage an emergency," Cameron added." https://www.insider.com/james-cameron-says-titan-sub-likely-tried-surfacing-before-imploded-2023-6

A totally false claim. Biden often uses the former President's name on the rare occasions he gives statements and speeches. Here's one example, he uses the name more than once in this divisive speech, if you need more happy to provide. https://www.npr.org/2022/09/01/1120235793/biden-speech-democracy

Victor Shokin says otherwise. To remind ourselves, Shokin was the prosecutor investigating corruption at Burisma that was fired when Biden publically threatened to withhold a billion $ in aid unless he was fired. The video of biden bragging about this should be famiar to us all. Anyone interested in a VERY informed take on the situ can find the interview he did with Chanel Rion it is on Youtube. Unfortunately I can't find a msm clipped and editted summary of the interview to link to, curious followers of this saga would have to view the raw interview. Very interesting stuff and another piece of the puzzle fitting perfectly in place. Why are MSM not wanting to hear from the man himself? Not curious? Still a non story?

The narrative was "Nobody is claiming Joe Biden had any knowledge of, nor has ever been implicated in any way, nor has ever discussed overseas business with his son", so presumably the white house records that showed he DID meet the people we were forced to accept he did not meet is problematic. I suspect we are about to see the left suddenly pivot away from JB and toward Newsom. The situation is untenable. Seeing KJP getting humiliated when she was faced with the lies was toe curling. This can not continue. I'm watching the Krassenstein/Pakman/TYT/brooklyndad accounts to see when this pivot occurs.

I'm sure this is the only time they were dishonest/lying about Hunter, and it is not a part of a highly organized and coordinated effort to deny sleaze and corruption at the highest level for political gain. Still, it was pretty bad that while the meetings had long been proven, they were still called "conspiracy theories". More transparency needed imo

I believe his "innovation" was shaping the pressure chamber like a toilet paper tube, others had previously been spherical. I suspect he did this so could fit more paying passengers onboard rather than as a tech improvement. The more info coming out about Rush's decisions the more it looks criminal. Shame he's not here to face the music. "A conversation he had with OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush the night before the expedition, however, still haunts him to this day. According to Weissmann, Rush had bought the carbon fiber used to make the Titan "at a big discount from Boeing," because "it was past its shelf life for use in airplanes." In other words, Rush knew that the carbon fiber — which is a very poor choice of material for a deepsea vessel, as many experts have pointed out — already potentially had flaws that could've played a role in the Titan's tragic demise." https://futurism.com/oceangate-ceo-expired-carbon-fiber-submarine?fbclid=IwAR2LaiLo7w1X_VgSopnHY9nYZVP2DuBqlPhNVHdZp3wHl6fxZKpG6LNAYjA

Right. How weird was it when news reports said his convoy turned around, and that Putin would not punish him or press charges against his soldiers. Interested to see how this episode plays out.

When both sides deny the legitimacy of the President after their side loses, clearly work needs to be done to allow forensic audits. What amuses me, is after the biggest politicaians on the left spent 4 years calling Trump illegitimate, they lost their minds after Trump reciprocated. Not many democrats know their own leaders are notorious "election deniers". https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-04/hakeem-jeffries-weighs-in-on-election-denier-label-trump-attack-on-constitution https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html https://www.insider.com/joe-biden-says-he-agrees-trump-is-illegitimate-president-2019-5 Time for paper ballots, and any other actions that can be taken so that BOTH SIDES can start to accept the results.

How can you possibly deny the set in stone narrative (that was false) and that ran for years. It was forbidden online to state the facts that the bidens were being paid millions from overseas because the left claimed it was all LIES. Remember? ""Nothing was unethical,” Joe Biden said of Hunter Biden’s role on the board of the Ukrainian energy company Burisma. “My son has no made money from China. The only guy who has made money from China was this guy," he said, directing his comments at Trump. " https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/22/presidential-debate-biden-trump-clash-hunter-biden-emails/3717412001/ "White House communications director Kate Bedingfield on Thursday insisted that President Biden didn’t lie at a 2020 presidential debate when he claimed that his son Hunter Biden didn’t make money in China or engage in unethical overseas business deals. Bedingfield stood by the claims even after they were demonstrated to be untrue as major US newspapers increasingly focus on the first son’s dealings amid reports he may soon face criminal charges — with the Washington Post and New York Times belatedly confirming the authenticity of Hunter Biden emails first reported by The Post in October 2020 ahead of the final presidential debate." https://nypost.com/2022/03/31/wh-claims-biden-didnt-lie-about-hunter-at-debate-despite-reporting/ This false narrative ran until Comer's committee showed the bank records for transactions that the left assured us never happened. The Washington Post finally tried getting ahead of the story they spent years denying a few months ago. "Yet we’re still left with a motley collection of odd and unsavory figures sending a lot of money through a lot of companies to a lot of members of the Biden family, with little explanation why. Comer contends that bank records confirm more than $10 million in payments, run through at least 20 businesses, mostly limited liability companies, to the president’s son Hunter Biden; the president’s brother, James Biden; James’s wife, Sara Jones Biden; Hallie Biden (widow of Joe Biden’s son Beau, who died in 2015); Hunter’s ex-wife, Kathleen Buhle; Hunter’s current wife, Melissa Cohen; and, as Comer noted, “three children of the president’s son and the president’s brother.” Just what goods or services did all those Biden family members provide to those companies? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/18/foreign-payments-to-biden-family-members/ You remember the enforced narrative the laptop wasn't real, it was the "new pizzagate" a product of the GOP to smear poor Hunter. Trump was impeached for abusing power trying to "falsely claim" there was something rotten in the Biden/Burisma exchanges. I know you know all this. You were not a passive observer. The Bidens made money from overseas in spite of their fans disinformation campaigns to deny the obvious. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276 If you are genuine and sincere. Please copy an old post from this world news forum - let's say from before mid 2022 where it stated explicitly that Hunter Biden and the biden family were - as we all know they were - receiving large amounts of unexplainable money from foreigners. Gd luck.

"House Oversight investigating $2B Saudi investment in Jared Kushner's firm Kushner formed an investment firm right after Trump left office, and six months later, the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia, controlled by the crown prince, invested $2 billion." https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-oversight-investigating-2b-saudi-investment-jared-kushners-firm-rcna31805 there you go. it was an investment firm. nothing to do with the biden payments his fans moved heaven and earth to deny ever happened, and are now painted into a corner making ridiculous and off topic gambits to distract. like I said, time to get ahead of this now.

sorry can you explain how Kushner's legal business( isnt he a fund manager or banker?) where he openly and legally took Saudi investors money - investors who expected to turn a legal PROFIT ,is relevant to the biden payments which we were guaranteed here never happened at all, and now the left can no longer deny they happened are unable to account for them other than to try falsely and disingenuously equate them with Jared Kushner's(not the topic of this thread) legitimate business? Probably time to get ahead of this story at this stage if this is the best argument you have.

I think the problem is that conservatives and neutral observers think there is a reason why the Ukrainians, the Chinese, the Romanians, the Russians and others paid the biden family and their web of LLC and shell companies huge amounts of money for extended periods of time. People do not pay millions of $ unless they expect to benefit from their spending in some way , more-so when they are regular payments which prove it wasn't a one time scam/ripoff. Do you think people covered in the above paragraph - the logical thinkers that realize these millions of $ were not paid for absolutely no reason at all - are all cult members?

No. It is a poor attempt to cast doubt on the facts that are known. Always happy to educate the misled and uninformed. But if your post is honest, why would you replace the name biden with "someone"?? "Subpoenaed financial records show that from 2015 to 2017, Biden family members – Hunter Biden, James Biden, Hallie Biden, and an unknown “Biden” – and their companies collectively received $1.3 million in payments from accounts related to Rob Walker, a Biden family associate. Notably, on March 1, 2017, less than two months after Vice President Joe Biden left public office, State Energy HK Limited, a Chinese company, wired $3 million to Rob Walker’s company. The next day, the company wired $1,065,000 to a company associated with James Gilliar, another Biden family associate. Afterwards, the Biden family received approximately $1,065,000 in payments over a three-month period in different bank accounts. From the bank records, it appears that the Biden family received approximately one-third of the money obtained from the China wire." https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-biden-family-members-receiving-payments-from-chinese-energy-company/

Well I have been back to the start of the Covid threads and can not find any examples of posters outlining the arguments for the lab leak scenario, nor any debate on the matter. Maybe people were split on the issue elsewhere?

Yes you missed the actual bank records that prove 100% the payments (which for many years the left claimed falsely never occurred at all) were made from CCP linked Chinese citizens exist as claimed by the GOP and people interested in facts since 2016 - rather than the payments being a conspiracy theory, a "manufactured crisis"(1) and "“classic example of the right-wing media machine” "The Biden Family Received Millions of Dollars from Foreign Sources: Bank records show the Biden family, their business associates, and their companies received over $10 million from foreign nationals’ and their related companies. The Committee has identified payments to Biden family members from foreign companies while he served as Vice President and after he left public office." https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-new-evidence-in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/ What is clear is that it was a far better situation for biden when the mainstream narrative was that the laptop containing all the evidence was "Russian disinformation" and the payments - well they never happened at all. (1)https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/cnns-brian-stelter-admits-hunter-biden-laptop-not-just-a-right-wing-media-story Finally, as someone that has been on the right side of this story since it initially broke, it is hard to see why you would be calling me "ridiculous". Is being factually correct on an issue ridiculous? Had the business between the bidens and these adversarial countries been legitimate there would have been no need for 7 years of disinformation, censorship and lies to protect the bidens.

If I understand this correctly, you are condoning a violent response to stoners doing their thing? While it may solve the immediate problem the legal repercussions for the assaulter could far outweigh the inconvenience of smelling weed on occasion. We live in a condo and smell weed all through the day, nothing that can be done, although yes some neighbors complain about it like it's the biggest issue ever.

That is not how I remember it. Isn't it factually correct to state that the official narrative was that a possible lab leak was a "conspiracy theory" so certainly not one side of a "bitter debate" as claimed in the OP?

Did I miss what Hunter and "his father sitting next to him" did to earn this $5 or $10 million? We are not talking small change here clearly the bidens provided a service of some sort, any idea from the biden fans what it could have been? Can we finally all now agree, that Joe Biden IS implicated in his sons business deals with foreign citizens in adversarial countries? How long did this take for the left to state what was blindingly obvious since before that election? 7 years of lies and dishonesty falsely claiming the payments a)did not exist at all and b) joe biden had never discussed foreign business deals with his son. 2 big lies.

Nobody can honestly argue there is one tier of justice applicable to all fairly and without favor. This is a tragic situation.

Not sure if that would work at depth?

"bleating"?? As someone that has been on the right side of this affair since day 1 (i never caved in to the russian disinfo misinformation campaign, it was clearly legit thanks to no denials from the family and credible witness testimony TB with receipts who was cc'd and involved with the schemes) calling my words "bleating" seems a tad inflammatory.

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