All true, but as we know for everyone in any country, when money is involved, people always try as hard as they can to get their piece of the cake. More so in Thailand. because of that, it´s not so strange that they up the game and try to get dowry out of foreigners also for non-virgins, women with children and old women. As I said in my first post, as long as all are in agreement. Everything else I agree with 100%. And, how they will treat you in the long run is very important. If a person can´t stand their ground, put down the foot and say no, then it might be best to just both explain how things are going to work and only pay for virgins. 😉