Wobblybob

Just now, Hummin said:

Why is it so hard to believe when we know Israels fundamental goals for their promised land? They will use any tactical tool to accomplish their future goal, wich is described in their prophecies, both the promised land and the end times. 

 

Some is quick to use Quran to describe Islam's goals which we should take seriously, but we should also take the jewish seriously when it comes to their politics and also use of their prophecies. 

Gibberish gobbledygook and greatly garbled.

Hamas started a war and because they're losing suddenly it, they suddenly become the victim and many on here fall for their lies, infact go along and even promote their falsehoods!

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

terrorist country, yeah right. how many countries the US invaded in recent history? you based you views on Russia from Rocky 4!

Frank you are off on a tangent again, can you not exhibit a post without your usual whataboutery and your profound hatred of the US?

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

Interesting that neither you nor anybody else who supports Israel won't say whether or not they believe the West Bank is Palestinian land.

Stop being your usual caustic self and inserting your own strawman arguments, are you incapable of responding to a post without your usual bellicosity inserts?

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

That's only true if you don't believe the entire west bank belongs to Palestinians.

Oh it must be correct if you say so!

5 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I agree wholeheartedly with the first part of that statement, but that is far from the ending of anything.

Are we playing riddle-me-ree now?

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

There wouldn't have been Oct 7 attacks if Israel had not been stealing Palestinian land for the past 80 years.
I am not "facilitating" more of these attacks. I am explaining why they occurred and how they may continue in the future if they do not reach an agreement on a two-state solution. That's obvious to me and my 14 dogs.
"Two more Israeli hostages have been murdered..." How many Palestinians have been murdered by the IDF? 
I am not SUPPORTING the people responsible for either of these killings. I am simply explaining why they occur and will continue to occur if a settlement is not reached.

Reverting back to a history lesson that doesn't have an ounce of truth in it, even if it did are you using that to excuse the evil actions on 7/10....... despicable!

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

The negotiations call for an administration of Gaza and the west bank which does not include Hamas. Without any official status and without support from Israel Hamas would be powerless save for some outstanding extremists who would be opposed by the Palestinian police under a new administration

Israel will do what is best for Israel, end of!

12 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, I do not want more Oct 7s, and I do not want more Oct 8 and onwards bombings and invasions.
I advocate a two-state solution, which, I agree, neither side wants. That's what NEGOTIATIONS are all about. Any negotiation is better than terrorist and military actions. 

There wouldn't have been an Oct 8th without the infamous beastial attack on Oct 7th and without removing Hamas now you are facilitating more of these attacks which should be obvious to every man and his dog.

Two more Israeli hostages have been murdered in Gaza today/yesterday, it takes a very special person to support the people responsible for these actions. 🥴

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

What I have learned after Oct 7 and has certainly opened my eyes is the astounding and disappointing degree of misplaced and deflective self-pity that pro-Israelis on this topic, and presumably, Israelis also, have.

1 hour ago, WDSmart said:

What I have learned after Oct 7 and has certainly opened my eyes is the astounding and disappointing degree of misplaced and deflective self-pity that pro-Israelis on this topic, and presumably, Israelis also, have.

You appear to have not learned anything, you want a ceasefire so the terrorists can regroup and start more 7/10s and you advocate an unworkable two state solution that neither side wants.

7 hours ago, frank83628 said:

yeah, nothing happening in that area before 2022 then?

Frank, what state of inebriation do you have to be in to add to your post "can't be arsed" 😂😂😂

9 hours ago, frank83628 said:

listen to you all, poor Ukraine, did any of you give a single s**t about Ukraine prior to 2022...no, not one of you did. 

Frank what is wrong with you, most of the world were disgusted by the Russians invading Crimea and starting trouble in east of Ukraine, of course people were bothered, why do you defend such a corrupt terrorist country, it is not normal. 

17 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Disgusting how Ukraine refused to present condoleances. It just shows how those people are and the US and European Union are supoorting them.

 

Full respect for Thailand's decency.

Do you ever post something so ridiculous you wish you hadn't! 

17 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I can't go any further as it would be deemed off-topic. People need to research it themselves.

You need to remember who started this war and stop excusing the terrorists! 

23 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

And wipe out the Palestinians for good measure! Killing two birds with one stone, eh? Nobody is fooled, the agenda is crystal clear.


 

Don't start wars, don't start moaning when you are losing! 

28 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Those polls if correct though show little difference between the militants and the civilians, they are all the bad guys then, and how do you deal with that in the future ? Business as usual after ceasefire doesn't cut it. Not by a long chalk.

It matters not one iota, Israel must and I emphasise must do all it can to keep its citizens safe, they have that right to defend themselves and all the terrorist propaganda in all the world will not change that no matter how much they have conned the West into thinking that they are the victims. 

12 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Well the explicit policy objective of the attack on Gaza by Israel was to totally eliminate Hamas and looks to have been a spectacular failure. Future Hamas operatives will be trained and supported by Iran, Hezbollah the Houthis and others and Israel is going to have to occupy Gaza completely so we have a scenario now for endless war or a truly epochal genocide of Gazan Palestinians which will guarantee that moving forward Israel will be besieged and pretty much alone. I feel that "my Israel right or wrong" cheerleaders are spectacularly missing this point. Hamas explicitly refer to the woman and children deaths as martyrs and welcome the propaganda message their deaths and suffering bring to the world. I believe the ferocity and brutality of October 7th was to bring on exactly this response and Israel rage-stormed into it.

I don't agree that Israels attack on Gaza has been a total failure, it has been estimated that 80% of the terrorists have been eliminated, Israels incursion into Rafa will reap its own rewards, they are closing in on the bad guys, hopefully they will uncover the where-abouts of the innocent hostages. Of course Hamas could stop any further incursions by Israel by handing over the hostages and surrendering, but as we all know Hamas are quite prepared to fight to the last Palestinian just as it doesn't include themselves. 

7 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Well that carpet bombing of Gaza reducing it to rubble doesn't seem to have changed hearts and minds and has almost certainly acted as a recruiting sergeant for any loss of militants in the coming years. With an Israel facing much diminished global support from their 'friends' where do they go now ?

It's called stupidity brought on by years of brainwashing.

5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I honestly had no idea the UN was this bias before Oct 7th. Its certainly opened my eyes to their antisemitism

Me too, this is the most astonishing matter to come out of this war.

9 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, that's the childish "He hit me first!" excuse. I acknowledge a response to Oct 7 was warranted, but it's now way past time for a settlement to this "war."

If you had your way Hamas would be doing a 7/10 ad infinitum. Hamas needs totally crushing, no splinters left to be seen!

5 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said:

Not at all. When under attack from bloodthirsty, inhumane masses it is our duty to destroy them, hence the destruction of those cities, and Gaza.

Yes and don't spare the horses when relieving Rafa from the terrorists.👍

2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

No, it was Hamas on Oct 7. It was the IDF on Oct 8 and onward to today. 

And one would not be happening without the other, Israels operation at the moment can only be described as work in progress, when the hostages have been returned and the threat of another 7/10 has been minimised then all parties can go back to their day jobs. HTH

24 minutes ago, Goat said:

Listen mate, I dont know what woke PC country you come from but it is my right in Thailand not to have to pretend to like people when I dont. 

Don't call me "mate" seek professional counselling as you sure as hell need it.