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Here is another thing about wearing masks everywhere.
I have been wearing a mask in places like supermarkets etc. This is more to avoid upsetting people who panic when they see someone not wearing a mask than in the hope it will do any good. Today I thought I would wear one on my 15 minute walk to the supermarket; despite the fact that I know that the virus is not airbourne and wearing one on the street is a waste of time.
The thing is I worked up a sweat and by the time I got to the supermarket my mask was sopping wet. So I ended up wearing a useless mask in the supermarket.
For those who advocate mask wearing - fair enough; you are entitled to your opinion. However, there needs to be a balance and reasonableness about when and where to to wear a mask.
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Of course one problem is obtaining a mask. No matter what anyone says they are not widely available - in Pattaya at least.
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On 3/31/2020 at 4:39 PM, DeeMak9 said:
The last pandemic was only a 100 years ago. The last world war less than 80. What makes you think this isn't going to happen again?
The last pandemic was 2009/10 - it is some times called swine fever. Started in Mexico, although the first recorded cases were in USA.
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23 minutes ago, Letseng said:
South Korea and China showed that WHO is wrong. If we all wear a mask we reduce the amount of droplets. Some lucky ones may have FFP3 masks and be protected by a useless mask from breathing in droplets altogether. I wear one outside wherever I go.
And Singapore shows that WHO is right. Compare Singapore's infection and death rates with those in China and South Korea.
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54 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said:
This is also what the leaders of rare countries like Sweden, Switzerland think.
Morality has nothing to do or see in what is happening today.
The countries that have done (South Korea) or are currently doing (Germany) a massive screening will be the ones that will do the best and the quickest.
And Mr. Trump, you can think what you want from him, but he made the right decision: to make sure that the economy of his country did not collapse.
The others, because of the gross ignorance of their leaders will be plunged into a serious recession;
millions of jobs lost, most forever.
All this by an unreasonable fear which comes from nowhere except maybe of the European middle ages ... well fed by the newspapers " aux ordres " which ALL belong to billionaires.very many dead who have absolutely nothing to do with the Covid will be declared because of it while these people, mostly elderly or very elderly, died because they already had 1 or 2 or even 3 significant pathologies.
the Covid will only speed up the process but has never been the lethal factor.A couple of take aways from your interesting post.
First I am reminded of the Roosevelt quote - "The only thing you need to fear is fear itself".
Second, an item from Sky TV a couple of days ago. The UK death toll then was about 760 and 98% of those had underlying health conditions. The Imperial model predicted about 20,000 deaths in UK. Medical experts estimated half of those 20,000 would have died within a year anyway. Of course this is just prediction. It sounds a bit callous, but it does, perhaps, put thing in a different perspective.
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14 minutes ago, baansgr said:
At a minimum 3% fatality rate....let's just work out the tens of millions of deaths worldwide....will shadow Spanish flu..
You have a point, but before we estimate the numbers relating to a 3% mortality rate we need to know the infection rate numbers. Some experts are predicting something closer to a 1% mortality rate. We will not know until it is over.
The world seemed to go to a lock down mentality before the extent of the spread was known. History will, perhaps, show that this was the correct approach. Until we get to that time I cannot help but have reservations.
Still, we have gone down that road and it is too late to change. Time will tell.
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46 minutes ago, jmccarty said:
Letting it run its course was largely what 2009 Swine flu pandemic did. The casualty number is not clear, but it was a lot even after several vaccines were made available.
A vaccine, if available and safer than the virus itself, would be welcome before letting it run rampant.
You are right to raise the issue of the swine flu - the last pandemic. Estimated casualty numbers vary, but the upper end is 1.4 billion infected with 500,000 dead (Wikipedia). Another factor with swine flu is that it died out in 2009 only to re-appear in 2010.
The economic impact of the approach to COVID 19 is going to be horrendous. The suffering this will cause can only be imagined (or perhaps can't). I have asked myself, before Trump even raised it, - is the cure worse than the illness?
Unfortunately I cannot answer my own question. What I would like to have is a professional and definitive answer to the question - why is COVID 19 being treated differently to Swine Flu?
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51 minutes ago, Yinn said:
You will not know for 4-5 days. Those 4-5 days will spread.
I not worry myself.
I worry about other people. Thousands people die everyday now.
If I get it I will not die, because young, healthy, female.
I worry that kill somebody. Must be resposabilty for other people.
I also worry the economy. If longer time = more loss for many people.
You may be in a low risk group, but you will not die???? Dream on baby. That attitude is irresponsible and costs live. Everyone should accept that they could die.
Washing hands and social distancing saves lives. Giving people a false sense of security that wearing a mask swill save them is also irresponsible. They should take the proper precautions.
I see people going into a super markets wearing a mask, but failing to use the hand sanitiser that is usually provided.
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8 minutes ago, Logosone said:Dr Shunmay Yeung from London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine explains why masks don't work:
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/health-51881555/coronavirus-do-face-masks-actually-work
This is the problem we are facing. People do not want to accept advice from people who know their subject and know what they are talking about
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1 hour ago, Yinn said:Hmmmm
the infection rate slow in South Korea, China, Japan. Most wear the mask.
the infection rate increase in Italy, US, UK, France. Spain. Most not wear the mask.
Total true again. Open the eyes.
I not understand why some people argue about wear mask so much. Is not difficult.
Not be selfish, considerate for elderly.
thousand+ die everyday now.
Next week will be 10,000+ everyday.
The World Health Organization may not know everything, but it know more about viruses than anyone else. Here is their latest advice on masks
Contrary to your claim, wearing masks is difficult if you can't get one because Thais are hoarding them.
I notice that you did not include the fake news of your earlier post that people in Singapore wear face masks. Some do most do not. The Singapore Government follows WHO advice and has earned world wide praise for the way it has handled the pandemic.
Thailand has failed to deal with this in a timely manner, blaming it on foreigners (how many foreigners attended the famous boxing match and how many Thais were wearing face masks?). People living in Thailand Thais and Farangs, are now going to pay the price.
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UK has got this right. Once a day you can exercise (running, walking or cycling) on your own or with members of the same household.
Exercise is good for maintaining the immune system which has to be a good thing in times like these. It is a positive not a negative.
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4 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:Where?
this tracker is useless. Still nothing in Pattaya.....must be all the sex going on
Yes,but how much SOI-6 virus is there?
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It says the certificate must be issued by a hospital (rather than a private doctor??). In Hong Kong and Macau that would be problematic. They are far too busy for that nonsense.
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From Cathay Pacific website - Travel Restrictions
Thailand Effective 12 March 2020, passengers departing from Mainland China (including Hong Kong SAR & Macao SAR), Korea, Italy and Iran are required to have the following at check-in:
- Health insurance document that provides at least USD100,000 coverage in Thailand (not applicable to Thai nationals)
- Health certificate, Link opens in a new window operated by external parties and may not conform to the same accessibility policies as Cathay Pacific issued within 48hours of flight depature certifying that they are free of COVID-19 (applicable to all nationalities)
Further, passengers from the above zones will be subject to a 14-day self-quarantine upon entering Thailand or the length of their visit (if less than 14-days).
For more information on the new travel regulations, please visit Thailand’s Ministry of Public Health., Link opens in a new window operated by external parties and may not conform to the same accessibility policies as Cathay Pacific
That is the first I have heard of insurance.
The link to Ministry of Public Health is also interesting.
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Tourists and businessmen - fine, but where do long term residents (retirees, married people etc) stand?
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Tour companies in Hong Kong are cancelling trips due to "...fresh confusion over quarantine requirements"
The Government's left hand does not know it has a right hand much less what it is doing. As for feet, they are for the Government to shoot at.
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The next step will be all flights from infected countries will have to circle the airport for 14 days quarantine before landing.
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I remember during SARS we were given a form at immigration. Every 2 or 3 days we had to report to a hospital for temperature checks etc. The form was stamped by the hospital and we had to carry it with us at all times.
This was a small inconvenience, but at least we didn't have to spend 14 days in a hotel room.
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South China Morning Post gives a different version
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Macau only has 10 cases. Has not had a new one for weeks.
Macau and Hong Kong have strict quarantine rules for those coming from China.
USA, France, Germany, Japan, Singapore and Spain all have more cases than Hong Kong. If this is necessary why aren't these countries included.
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Can anyone give me a link to download the application form to renew 5 years licence so I can prepare it in advance. Thanks
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Can someone get me a paper bag
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She has such a good memory that she forgot to complain for 20 years!
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Those that submit TM 30 are likely to be "good guys" (that Thailand wants "in"). I wonder how many of the "bad guys" (that Thailand wants "out") bother to tell Thai authorities where they are living so they can be kicked out.
Answers on a postcard.....
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farangs in pattaya not wearing masks'
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I am quite fit thank you. Always been a heavy sweater - good thing stops body overheating.
Back to the masks - believe me it takes very little sweat to soak a mask as I found out. Masks are already in short supply so why over use when not necessary?