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1 hour ago, giddyup said:

What time did you go? I have my second jab next Tuesday so would prefer to go when not too busy.

11 AM

What is the difference between Mor Prom App and MorProm@line.  I don't have line on my phone.  Will I need to install it? I don't have Mor Prom App either.

The question was "anyone had the second pfizer jab....".  Anything else is off topic.

9 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Out of the almost 700,000 medical workers who received 2 doses of Sinovac. April to mid-July 2021  after delta had arrived Thailand mid-May

So, with 600 getting infected that is a efficacy rate of over 99%?

Of course that is not right, but it highlights the misleading use of figures and statistics, especially in sensationalized news reports. Medical staff are at far greater risk than most of us and they deserve every thing being done to keep them in their health and comfort zone.

For the rest of us it helps to keep figures and statistics in context.

What is the time between jabs for pfizer? Anyone know?

23 minutes ago, sanuk711 said:

Has anyone mentioned the date of birth---(cant be bothered to read 13 pages)..... its current and to get your DOB you click it back..1 month at a time..... (unless someone is going to point out what an idiot I am) over 900 clicks to get back to the 1940s...........

Click on the month and you can go back a year at time

2 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

Seems the site is life now. Just clicked on "Foreign Residents", and it asks me to in put my email address, aaaand: Email address is invalid.

 

I knew this was going to be exciting stuff..., my Sunday entertainment has arrived!

If you are using an iPhone do NOT use autofill.

Nothing new, but the article from South China Morning Post shows how Thailand Government is shamed overseas.

Thailand’s street protests return, taking aim at Prayuth’s handling of Covid-19 pandemic | South China Morning Post (scmp.com)

8 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

I disagree.  Elderly people have just as much of a need to exercise as anyone.  Cardiovascular fitness is one of the best ways to maintain a high immune response.  It's lame to say this is not an important consideration for everyone, not just young and fit people.  Young and fit people are not immune to the dangers of Covid anymore than older people are immune to the benefits of exercise.

Not only lame, but dangerous, especially from someone calling himself a doctor.

27 minutes ago, James105 said:

Ah yes, here we go, swimming pools, sports fields and public parks.   Despite not a single infection being attributed to these areas let's get them closed so that people will be forced to exercise/walk in closer proximity to each other than they were before.    Preventing people from exercising increases hospitalisations from those who catch covid as physical inactivity increases the chances of severe illness from covid.   Other than vaccines (which are not available), exercise is just about the best defence we have against this thing.   

 

If the problem is that the parks are too busy as the gyms are closed then let the the gyms open with reduced capacity.   The more opportunity there is for people to spread out the less chance there is of them infecting each other, and closing parks and gyms does the opposite of that.   The most annoying thing about this kind of policy is that people then start getting angry with other people as there just isn't enough outdoor space.

I was not aware that public parks were closed. Are you sure?

What about exercise?  Looking after my health is essential to me.

I notice that the date on the web page is 02 Jun 2021.  It has been around some time.  Has anyone had any response?

Hopefully if a large number of expats register, Chonburi Governor might realize he has a problem.

I can dream can't I?

3 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Several citizens were waiting for free rapid antigen tests at the Covid-19 testing station near Thupatemee Stadium in Pathum Thani province on Monday morning.

https://twitter.com/Thenationth/status/1414448265748049928

 

So much for social distancing!!!  Wonder how many people pick up the virus waiting in these queues?

With the talk now of travel restrictions how are people from Pattaya going to get to Bangkok for a jab?  What about those who need to go back for a second jab?

Something to think about and is one reason why I want my jab here in Pattaya! 

That is why this thread is so important if people could stay on topic.

Seeing the demolition in Miami reminded me of this one.

Any suggestions as to when the mayor will get round to it??

1 hour ago, wadman said:

Same with me. Didn't work yesterday or today, until I updated the app. Now it works again. 

Are you using a iphone?

The App Store shows my app is up-to-date (1.7).  When I re-loaded I down loaded the only one available and it still did not work.

She is obviously a top notch scientist, but accidents do happen - in all walks of life.

I understand it is difficult to prove a negative, but where there is reasonable suspicion, a detailed and thorough investigation should be done.  All the more so considering the serious consequences of SARS-CoV-2. Politics should be kept out of it (difficult); this is a matter for scientists. 

3 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

The updated version in CNX has been working, so far.

 

Excuse my ignorance, but what is CNX?

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Maybe update the app, then retsart the phone.

 

 

Done all that. Still not working.

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Even if China had shut down international travel when it shut down domestic travel, it would have been too late. The virus was already abroad. Some countries like Taiwan were closely following events and took them seriously. They managed to control the spread. Most others weren't taking it seriously enough.

You are right. The first case outside of China was 8th January 2020 in Thailand - a woman arriving from Wuhan.

By the time China stopped flights the horse was well and truly out of the stable.

Is anyone else having problems with the Thaichana App?  

When I open it it tells me "No Internet Connection" when I do have one. I removed the app and reloaded it but still the same.

Other Apps on my phone requiring internet (banking etc.) work fine.

4 hours ago, club said:

China made sure to take care of themselves . When they knew they had a deadly virus in Wuhan They immediately locked it down. Well maybe not all of it. To me it doesn't matter if it came from a wet market or lab leak. What does matter is they have never explained why they stopped air travel domestically but not internationally. This was how the world was infected so quickly . I have never heard them even asked that question. When you lockdown a city because of a deadly virus , nobody should come in or go out.   

Actually they did not "immediately" lock down.  That was on or about 22nd January; fully 3 weeks after they knew, or should have known, that they had a big problem.

2 hours ago, cmarshall said:

The one thing that is completely clear about SARS-Cov2 is that whether it came from human contact with wild animals or leaked out of a lab doesn't matter in the least.  The countries that were carefully surveilling emergent pathogens in China including S. Korea, Taiwan, Viet Nam, and others were able to suppress the virus by their early (beginning in 2019 in some cases) and vigorous response to the new threat.  If the criminally incompetent governments of the US, the UK, Brazil, and most of the countries of Europe had also been monitoring China for new viruses, they would have been able to control the outbreak as well.  

 

The US actually had an office of the CDC in Beijing with forty-seven employees including epidemiologists whose responsibilities included monitoring for a new epidemic, but the Trump administration shut it down in 2017 along with offices of other agencies like USAID that also had roles to play in warning about a new outbreak.  Any surveillance program would have been looking at all possible sources of a new outbreak including lab accidents.  But the Trump administration decided instead to do as little as possible at every stage leading to the deaths of 600,000 (really 900,000) Americans for which the US government is entirely to blame no matter where the virus came from.  

A well reasoned argument with which I fully agree.

China can rightly be criticized for its handling of the initial stages, but if they informed the world on 30th December 2019 that there was a new strain of SARS which could have person to person transmission, would it have made a difference? In theory it should, but the way the developed world did respond later (God forbid we should miss our holidays) I think we would still have the disaster we are now in.