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27 minutes ago, James105 said:

Ah yes, here we go, swimming pools, sports fields and public parks.   Despite not a single infection being attributed to these areas let's get them closed so that people will be forced to exercise/walk in closer proximity to each other than they were before.    Preventing people from exercising increases hospitalisations from those who catch covid as physical inactivity increases the chances of severe illness from covid.   Other than vaccines (which are not available), exercise is just about the best defence we have against this thing.   

 

If the problem is that the parks are too busy as the gyms are closed then let the the gyms open with reduced capacity.   The more opportunity there is for people to spread out the less chance there is of them infecting each other, and closing parks and gyms does the opposite of that.   The most annoying thing about this kind of policy is that people then start getting angry with other people as there just isn't enough outdoor space.

I was not aware that public parks were closed. Are you sure?

What about exercise?  Looking after my health is essential to me.

I notice that the date on the web page is 02 Jun 2021.  It has been around some time.  Has anyone had any response?

Hopefully if a large number of expats register, Chonburi Governor might realize he has a problem.

I can dream can't I?

3 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Several citizens were waiting for free rapid antigen tests at the Covid-19 testing station near Thupatemee Stadium in Pathum Thani province on Monday morning.

https://twitter.com/Thenationth/status/1414448265748049928

 

So much for social distancing!!!  Wonder how many people pick up the virus waiting in these queues?

With the talk now of travel restrictions how are people from Pattaya going to get to Bangkok for a jab?  What about those who need to go back for a second jab?

Something to think about and is one reason why I want my jab here in Pattaya! 

That is why this thread is so important if people could stay on topic.

Seeing the demolition in Miami reminded me of this one.

Any suggestions as to when the mayor will get round to it??

1 hour ago, wadman said:

Same with me. Didn't work yesterday or today, until I updated the app. Now it works again. 

Are you using a iphone?

The App Store shows my app is up-to-date (1.7).  When I re-loaded I down loaded the only one available and it still did not work.

She is obviously a top notch scientist, but accidents do happen - in all walks of life.

I understand it is difficult to prove a negative, but where there is reasonable suspicion, a detailed and thorough investigation should be done.  All the more so considering the serious consequences of SARS-CoV-2. Politics should be kept out of it (difficult); this is a matter for scientists. 

3 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

The updated version in CNX has been working, so far.

 

Excuse my ignorance, but what is CNX?

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Maybe update the app, then retsart the phone.

 

 

Done all that. Still not working.

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Even if China had shut down international travel when it shut down domestic travel, it would have been too late. The virus was already abroad. Some countries like Taiwan were closely following events and took them seriously. They managed to control the spread. Most others weren't taking it seriously enough.

You are right. The first case outside of China was 8th January 2020 in Thailand - a woman arriving from Wuhan.

By the time China stopped flights the horse was well and truly out of the stable.

Is anyone else having problems with the Thaichana App?  

When I open it it tells me "No Internet Connection" when I do have one. I removed the app and reloaded it but still the same.

Other Apps on my phone requiring internet (banking etc.) work fine.

4 hours ago, club said:

China made sure to take care of themselves . When they knew they had a deadly virus in Wuhan They immediately locked it down. Well maybe not all of it. To me it doesn't matter if it came from a wet market or lab leak. What does matter is they have never explained why they stopped air travel domestically but not internationally. This was how the world was infected so quickly . I have never heard them even asked that question. When you lockdown a city because of a deadly virus , nobody should come in or go out.   

Actually they did not "immediately" lock down.  That was on or about 22nd January; fully 3 weeks after they knew, or should have known, that they had a big problem.

2 hours ago, cmarshall said:

The one thing that is completely clear about SARS-Cov2 is that whether it came from human contact with wild animals or leaked out of a lab doesn't matter in the least.  The countries that were carefully surveilling emergent pathogens in China including S. Korea, Taiwan, Viet Nam, and others were able to suppress the virus by their early (beginning in 2019 in some cases) and vigorous response to the new threat.  If the criminally incompetent governments of the US, the UK, Brazil, and most of the countries of Europe had also been monitoring China for new viruses, they would have been able to control the outbreak as well.  

 

The US actually had an office of the CDC in Beijing with forty-seven employees including epidemiologists whose responsibilities included monitoring for a new epidemic, but the Trump administration shut it down in 2017 along with offices of other agencies like USAID that also had roles to play in warning about a new outbreak.  Any surveillance program would have been looking at all possible sources of a new outbreak including lab accidents.  But the Trump administration decided instead to do as little as possible at every stage leading to the deaths of 600,000 (really 900,000) Americans for which the US government is entirely to blame no matter where the virus came from.  

A well reasoned argument with which I fully agree.

China can rightly be criticized for its handling of the initial stages, but if they informed the world on 30th December 2019 that there was a new strain of SARS which could have person to person transmission, would it have made a difference? In theory it should, but the way the developed world did respond later (God forbid we should miss our holidays) I think we would still have the disaster we are now in.

God bless her!!!

Long live the Queen!!!!

The only Pattaya hospital on Intervac is BPH and I am not sure if they even know they are on the "list".  Anyway they don't seem to have any vaccine.

It appears that other local hospitals are at best not very farang friendly, except perhaps if you have a pink ID card.

That leaves the so called (or was) walk-in site at the indoor stadium.  Can farangs use this?  Has anyone any experience?  In particular how long to wait for the first jab and how long between jabs.

I know it is not the most luxurious option, but maybe has its good points - like availability.

24 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

People: PLEASE limit comments here to be about practical information about vaccine access for Pattaya area expats. 

This is not a general vaccine or Covid-19 discussion topic.

Not all topics need to be about everything.

By posting away from the topic, the value of the information here for interested local Pattaya area expats seeking vaccines is degraded. 

There are other topics for other Covid-19 or vaccine info, or members can open their own new topics if not. 

You started a valuable thread that has been repeatedly hijacked and peppered with childish bickering.  

Please people get back on topic!!!!! If you don't know what it is go back to the heading!!!!!

Even places that have done quite well with the virus, Singapore, Taiwan etc., have suffered spikes and clusters related to cheap foreign labour housed like animals in overcrowded conditions. A simple lesson that Thailand failed to learn.

The Government needs to get its collective head around the most important reason for vaccination.

Yes, I get the vaccine to protect me. I.e. to stop me getting the virus. On that basis perhaps the Government is right to give priority to its own people.

The main reason, however, is to prevent the spread of the virus in the community. I.e. to stop me getting the virus and passing it on to a thousand Thais. On that basis any prioritizing on the basis of race, religion or ethnic origins is wrong and just plain stupid.  Yes, even kingons should get it.

Perhaps the Government will eventually get it, but don't hold your breath. That is why this thread is important so we can monitor the situation!!!

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

At this point I am going to post an obvious question.

 

Has any f-rang,  any f-rang at all walked into Pattaya City Hospital on Soi Bukhao with their passport and no Thai ID number and been able to manually sign up for a vaccine reservation there?

 

 

Good question!!!

Perhaps we can return this thread to your OP, which I think a lot of posters have not read.

Please folks - back on topic.  This is important.

Slightly off topic, but I did my 90 day report at Jomtien last week.  They put a stamp on my receipt to remind me my extension was due in May. (Actually they called it a visa).

A nice touch I thought.

24 minutes ago, natway09 said:

The numbers arriving in the country are of concern (288 today)

Authorities at point of deperture are obviously just letting them board. or does this include land border entries bound for quarantine anyway

The OP is far from clear.  It talks about "people entering quarantine" not people entering the country. The form of reporting has changed over the past couple of days and needs some clarification.