TroubleandGrumpy

There are so many things wrong in the OP but there are also some things that are right. Which ones will be right and wrong in the future is the issue/concern. I will not debate the rights and wrongs of each point right now, but I will add the big issue that many people overlook. When you get nabbed for speeding, not wearing helmet, over staying, etc etc etc. The penalties are 'singular' and are not that heavy - yes they could include deportation - but they are singular in their legal nature. Imagine if the Thai police pulled you over for not wearing a helmet in 2030, and because of that they have the ability to find out every single time you did not wear a helmet going back to 2024. Plus they can then arbitrarily decide how much fines you should have paid, plus apply penalties for not paying those fines, plus add 1.5% per month interest penalty on those amounts - all going back to 2024. That is being audited by the tax office - they go backwards and examine everything, and in Thailand they have a lot of arbitrary power and are not constrained by reasonable/fair rules and regulations. In the case of Thailand, it would be back to 2024. It is not about getting away withy it one year - there is no getting away with it for one year - if they investigate your financial affairs in 2030 they can and will go back to 2024. Thinking that it will be OK because they will take years to get this all sorted is only OK if you will not be here in years. Yes - it will take them years, but then if you are caught/targeted, they can and will audit you going back to 2024. Thailand can now get all the financial records from your home country, and also in Thailand, going back to 2024 when they complied with OECD regulations. If you are only staying a few years, then go right ahead and ignore it, if you feel so inclined - but if you are planning to be here a long time, then you would be wise to not dismiss it out of hand like this OP has suggested. It will take a while before we know how the TRD is going to play this for retired/married Expats, but until then it is best to stay across things and not dismiss it out of hand.

Old School maybe - but I am right - and what Lia Thomas did was wrong. And it is wrong that under the guise of 'gay rights' Lia and all his/her mates that play against girls and demand the right to change in their bathrooms, while still having their full male genitalia on display. There is a line to be drawn - and I agree with Caitlyn Jenner, because she is rational person and is not full of lefty lunacy and illogical thinking. Now you maybe think she is old fashioned and also locked into a mindset too - or you could stop and think and listen to what she has to say. Caitlyn Jenner says transgender girls in women's sports is 'unfair' (nbcnews.com)

You and all your irrational lefty mates is why Lia Thomas did what he/she did. Any argument that tries to say that what Lia and all his/her mates are doig is OK, is wrong - utterly wrong.

The Tory's/Independents just won the election.

You say you are gay but fail to see that I do not give a rat's rear whether you are or not - OK?? As I said I played golf with a gay mate for 20 years - I am no homophobic at all - I met his Partner many times and went often out with them and had a meal and a beer and to the footy and cricket - we played cricket together for over 10 years. This is not about me having a problem with gays - yet you clearly are trying to take that view. What I am saying is that 'gay rights' in Thailand must be done IMO, so that it allows gays to get married and have equal legal rights under the law etc. - but that is it - it must stop there. Otherwise, as has happened in the west, those 'gay rights' had many unanticipated downstream issues. If a boy decides that he is a girl, but is still an 'intact' boy, then IMO 'gay rights' does not means that he can use the girl's toilets and changerooms if he wants to, and if the girls do not want him to. Sure - any boy giving him/her abuse in the boy's rooms should and must be brought into line strongly. But your unlimited views fails to see that 'gay rights' leads to that exact situation which becomes 'trans rights' which leads to all those downstream issues. Gay Rights must be 'controlled' so that it does not take away the rights of girls to things like their privacy for a start, let alone being forced to compete in sports against males. Surely you understand that and agree with that? Or are you saying that a gay's rights over-ride the rights of girls??

There it is again - exactly the lefty thinking - you dont care about Lia Thomas and what she/he did to others - downsides of so many things that came about under the banner of 'gay rights'. Let me tell you - She/he won National swimming championship events against 'biological females' thereby destroying their years of work and efforts. She/he was allowed to get changed (full male genitalia on display) in the girl's change rooms, despite their protests. The girl's that protested were told they must accept 'her' in there, because she was accepted as a female competitor, or they would be suspended. What they had to do was change in the toilets with the door closed, and other things to avoid her/him.

Another argument based on lefty thinking. Your logic is - agree with all gay rights snd all the downstream issues, or you disagree with gay rights. Read my posts again - it is the downstream issues I do not want Thailand to allow in the name of 'gay rights'. Example being Lia Thomas.

Dont know - and you could ne right and maybe it was the treatment. It was early on and maybe they got it wrong.

That is not a TRD spanner mate - this is a TRD spanner 🙂

This is hopefully wrong - lost in translation perhaps? I see recently several comments on Youtube that Thailand was introducing global taxation rules for businesses as per the OECD directive (min 15% etc.) Maybe the 'numpties' at TRD have seen the likely income this new global business taxation method will bring into their budget, and have figured they will do the same for personal income tax and introduce a rule to tax all income earned worldwide by any Thai tax resident. Only USA and Eritrea currently have worldwide personal taxation liabilities for their Citizens/Residents. As the USA has found out, it requires a lot of very highly efficient well trained tax officers (DTAs etc) to manage such a system. There is not a snowflake in Hell's chance that the TRD will not have a lot of incompetent (nepotism appointments) and corrupt (as is everywhere) officials who will either screw this all up, and/or seek to gain personal advantage. And IMO Expats would be an easy target - we have no legal rights and cannot 'fight back' like Thais can. Whilst I had the previous rule change 'covered' this new global taxation system, if it is introduced, is not something I can 'cover' and the risks in being caught up in the TRD 'net' are far too high. I just cannot see how anything, including gifting rules, will get around a worldwide income taxation system. I have looked into the USA taxation system and they do this for a very good reason - they get much more tax revenues than they otherwise would and the costs are worth it overall because it is extremely hard for USA Citizens. The USA taxes Citizens who live overseas, but non-citizens in USA are not tax residents unless they have a Green Card or meet their Substantial Presence Tests. Plus a person can use the DTA of their home/resident country to pay taxes there, rather than to USA. I just cannot see the TRD being anything other than 'rabid' when it comes to demanding tax residents pay income taxes on the money they have overseas. The wife and I have decided that we will not stay in Thailand more than 179 days each year if this change to a global personal taxation system goes ahead in Thailand. That decision will only change if there is clear and reasonable options for Expats to avoid being forced to pay income taxes in Thailand on the earnings they have made/saved overseas over their lifetime.

Very interesting - it seems that most of the members that I have opposing political views with about the Dems/Biden and GOP/Trump are also Hamas supporters and hate Israel. Very happy to see that my personal my moral values align against those who are clearly delusional woke lefties and would be pro-Hamas protestors if they were at Uni in USA or elsewhere.

The intent of the Hamas has been apparent to me for some months now, and IMO Hamas is refusing to stop hiding behind civilians/supporters and will not release the hostages unill the entire strip has been destroyed, which will de facto make it uninhabitable. Let's see how much of Hamas and their supporters are still alive once the IDF leaves.

Exactly what I said then, I said now. They want gay marriage which I am OK with, but not the rest of their downstream issues (males in girls bathrooms). Can you read or not. FROM YOUR QUOTE THAT I SAID - They (I use they/them to cover all variations) claimed a desire for equality under marriage laws and that is justified, with resultant property rights after death, taxation deductions and rights, and other 'equality' issues under the Laws. But I hope the Thailand Govt does not fall into the same traps as the Western Govts did and cave into their constant demands for 'more and more equality' Thanks for proving me right 🙂

And if he gets elected?

You are demanding I prove them right - and think that makes you right?? I gave an opinion and you stated 'prove it'. Well I say - you prove it wrong. Obviously you did not and can not. My opinion - you disagree. If it is my opinion that you hate your Mother and your Wife - can you give an approved link to prove otherwise?

Read my posts - I support gay marriage - played golf with a gay guy who has a male Partner. But I do not support the downstream issues. One of which I specifically mentioned - Lia Thomas changing in front of the girls in the change rooms, despite their protests, and then he won the swimming championships/events that he entered - ruining the chances of girls who trained for years, but had no chance against a much bigger and stronger male body. You have lost big time and the more you dig the deeper the hole you are in.

Prove me wrong - please provide links - from credible sources only.

I cannot provide any link to prove I loved my Mother, or that I love my Wife. Only lefty over educated people believe that 'proof' in the form of some Poll/Survey is all that matters. Sad to think that some people believe that a survey is true - did the Polls not say Hillary was going to win? And so many other things.

Where are all your liberal lefty nutter mates? Cudos for being one of the most committed lefties and keep posting rubbish to try and defend the undefendable. Maybe now you will realise that your 'side' of the fence are very much 'fair weather friends' and will run for shelter when reality hits.

No!! 🙂 All done - finished - go home. Just like BTS near disaster, and all the other news bad for tourism - it will be swept under the carpet and never mentioned again.

I hope Dobmatrix is right, but I do recall a senior tax officer in an interview on Youtube saying that the next step was worldwide taxation, which is what I based my previous statement on some months back. I hope it does not go ahead for personal tax residents - but they are desperate to stop the economy collapsing and to have money to pay their bribe economic kick starter..

I would say that they deserve to be your friend.

Yes I agree - you are a troll and are now being ignored. Only a troll would call someone a homophobic and then refuse to explain or defend why they called them that slur name. Give me your phone number and I will get my gay mate that I played golf with for 20 years to call you and tell you that you are an ignorant fool to call me homophobic - because I am definitely not that at all.

I said a while back that Thailand was looking at introducing a world wide income tax regime (like USA). Well there it is in black and white - that means will are working on it - and it will be announced just before it starts. And for those unaware it means a lot - a lot more than the previous change about remitted money not being taxable after one year. What a global taxation liability for a Thai tax resident means, is that everything earned or received overseas in taxable in Thailand - Pensions, Savings Interest - any earnings - whether it is remitted into Thailand or not. You technically can get a tax relief for due Thai taxes under a DTA for any tax paid back in the other country, but it will not be easy to prove the tax has been paid for many reasons. Just for starters most countries do not align with the Thai tax year of Jan to Dec and they usually only report on their own tax year (in my case July to June). Whilst it is easy for a business, with their in house or contracted accountants to report any month to any month, that is not the case for the majority of personal income tax matters. This change, if it goes ahead (social media feedback is overwhelmingly bad), means a lot more than the old one year rule change. It is more bad news IMO for all long term Expats in Thailand who have any income or earnings in overseas countries, including Pensions.

You lost - avoiding a debate means you lose. Read my first post and your response calling me homophobic. I want to discuss why you called me homophobic and what that means. Your failure to do so, means you lost the debate. You are Logicphobic.