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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in The War in Israel
Again NEITHER side wants a two state solution. A one state solution means the end of Israel. Don't ask me what a solution could be because looking at the history nobody has come close to cracking that nut. -
Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in The War in Israel
That ship has sailed. In the movement before the founding of Israel there were other geographical options discussed and considered. Obviously Israel was most ideal because of the ancient bond between the Jewish people and the land of Israel (Next Year In Jerusalem) but the core idea was a political self determination liberation movement where Jews could finally avoid the cyclical persecution in the diaspora. So it could have been somewhere else at least theoretically. But Israel exists now and isn't going anywhere. -
Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in The War in Israel
You conveniently fail to mention that the stated goal of Hamas is genocide of Jews. So Israel is supposed to just cave? It's funny not ha ha to me. Jew haters attack Jews for being too passive as in WW2 and they also attack when Jews finally realized they needed serious military power to survive as in Israel. As the saying goes: “If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.” Golda Meir -
Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in The War in Israel
Another one that eschews the complexity of real life. Are Palestinian Arabs really different than Jordanian Arabs? You ignore the fact that there was mass migration to British Mandate Palestine to take advantage of economic opportunities from the pan Arabic world related to Zionist pioneers. This fetishism over specific Palestinian Arab identity is an artificial construct. Anyway I agree with you that the west bank settlements are illegal. -
Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in The War in Israel
It's no secret. Israel's war goals in response to the barbaric attack on October 7 include both getting the hostages back AND crushing Hamas. Both goals are very difficult. -
Trump says country faces ‘bloodbath’ if Biden wins in November
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
The larger context of what we're dealing with "American Carnage" Trump. -
Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in The War in Israel
Yeah I also don't find his "condemnation" at all sincere. -
What Movies or TV shows are you watching (2024)
Jingthing replied to Rimmer's topic in Entertainment
Episode 6 of Season 3 of The Young Royals which is the FINALE of the entire series is out today. Without any spoilers, I will call it an emotionally satisfying conclusion. -
Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in The War in Israel
Yeah when Trump was president he spoke for me. Sure thing, dude. He never got a majority of votes and never will. Hamas is on record as having every intention of doing October 7 attacks again and again and again and their intention is to kill all the Jews. Yet to you it's a bad thing that Israel is stopping them at least for now. Hamas still holds hostages as well. Calling for an unconditional cease fire is calling for Israel to surrender, and why should they? I'm not going to play into your simple minded cheap gotcha condemn on demand game. I said they made mistakes. I said Netanyahu shouldn't be in power. Going back I doubt October 7 would have happened if Netanyahu wasn't in power then, but that doesn't mean he's to blame for what the Hamas terrorists did and continue to intend to do if they are effectively crushed by Israel. -
Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in The War in Israel
Bingo. I'm not neutral. I support the right of Israel to exist and defend itself. I know for a fact that Jews are indigenous to Israel and the leftist narrative of apartheid, "white" colonialization, and genocide is a crock. I think Hamas set up a trap and Israel felt they had no choice but to fall into it resulting in Israel badly losing the PR war. Possibly permanent damage to the future of Israel. I hope not but Israel demonizers have cause for optimism. I can also see that Israel has made mistakes and that Netanyahu has been a disaster. -
Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in The War in Israel
More stupidity. Being elected doesn't mean your views gel with 100 percent of your region. Stop lying about my views on Israel. Yeah you're a real 50 50 kind of guy. -
Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in The War in Israel
Don't be so stupid. No group is a monolith. Not all settlers are right wing extremists. Many are there mainly because they can't afford decent housing in regular Israel. Everything has to black and white with you. The real world is much more complicated. -
Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in The War in Israel
Agreed but her views do not represent the Israeli government. -
Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in The War in Israel
The Arab leaders are lying. They can't accept a Jewish state in their region. Have Palestinian "refugees" for multiple generations is on them. They use that for internal political control purposes. They know they are same as any Arabs but they don't want to lose the eternal refugee card as a propaganda tool. Having an enemy to hate (Jews) takes the heat off their internal problems. If they absorb them then they lose that political tool, so the Palestinains are innocent victims of the Arab world. Of course Jordan has largely absorbed them so their political stance is different. If the conflict was Arab vs. Arab it wouldn't be an international issue -- PERIOD