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Does anyone know what time the Asian Cup Qualifier game between Australia and Bahrain starts tonight ? Thailand time please. Also if you could tell me which channel it will be broadcast on TrueVision? Thant would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks. :jap:

"That is until they become more mature and the cane is put away."

The cane is only put away through fear that the mature student will take that cane off the teacher and shove it up their A##

Perhaps I should have said, I never got caned. Whipped by the long leather straps that hung around the waist and down to the floor of the priests cassock and whacked by long sturdy pointers and hit by thrown erasers and slugged by fists but not caned. The nuns in grade school used to slap a lot.

As I remember in the US public schools in the 50's and 60's there was no corporal punishment allowed. But schools were managed by municipalities and not the federal government. In other words a local school board determined policy rather then a federal agency.

Nothing more pleasing to the ear than hearing the old blackboard eraser whistling passed ones ear. Knowing good and well that it missed the middle of your forehead.

At last the Australian Cricket team has had a win.

1st ODI - Melbourne Cricket Ground

Australia won by 6 wickets

Australia 4/297 England 294

Maybe Australia still has a chance in the up coming World Cup.

So I guess a Christian forum on the site is a no go then?

Just reading the new dude. Just reading the new.

The problem with caning or the threat of it is that it induces fear in young children.

From this threat of fear comes violence, the very thing that it is 'meant' to prevent.

Fear does not reduce violence. It only creates violence.

If as a teacher you cannot command respect go away and do something else.

Pupils will obey their teachers if they respect them otherwise not.

The unruly pupil is only doing what the others would like to do but does not dare to do.

The unruly pupil is the brave one.

Physical violence against children has long been abolished in western societies

and quite rightly so.

Absolutely agree with that.

IMO. The area behind Lotus Khamtiang is as good as you will find in CNX. Good for variety, prices and many differant shops to choose from.

IMO.Caning a child is just an outlet for teachers to vent thier frustration and anger. The only good that can come of reintroducing it would be that the teachers will not go home after work and kick the dog and yell at the wife.

It is not reintroducing it. It never left Thai Government schools. However, it makes little difference with class size of 50 students. 20 to 30 is OK. 40 is bad and 50 is a lost cause unless you split the class into four and have a teacher or student teacher or bully or someone in each quarter knocking heads to keep them quiet while you teach one quarter. Except for rote learning you can't teach large classes in the lower grades. In college you can have a lecture hall with a 1000 students no problem. The students are paying for the education and keep quiet and listen. But not grade school or high school.

Cool!

I wasn't there but I know of these guys. I have meet them a few times. They are well known clowns from Ireland professing in magic and card tricks amounst other things. I guess you could call them pranksters and according to them it was indeed a put on. His mates were even feeding him Gin and Tonics between rounds. The same show was on Friday night. LOL

What a lot of hot c##k. When the vatican starts sharing a little of thier MASSIVE wealth with the millions upon millions of Catholic followers around the world who are living in poverty and dying of disease. Then that, I would call a miracle. When was the last time somebody in Vatican City died of starvation? Please.....

IMO.Caning a child is just an outlet for teachers to vent thier frustration and anger. The only good that can come of reintroducing it would be that the teachers will not go home after work and kick the dog and yell at the wife.

I used to cop 6 of the best across the hands when i f##ked up at school as a youngter. Hurty hurties. Especially in the winter. Don't think it did much good. IMO physical punishment such as this is real cave man techniques.IMO . Burn me if you will.

So is cooking your food but it works.

Couldn't resist that.

Seriously what other modern techniques do we have that work. I got my hands rapped a couple of times with the ruler it smarted quite a bit. How ever the teacher still maintained control of the class and many of the students benifited by learning rather than being unruly. Point is it will stop a lot of students from conduct that prevents them from learning. (we rebels were in a very small minority most of the kids were followers) And they choose to follow kids who didn't get hurt. dam_n now I am wondering what the #^&$%@!) was wrong with me.

Even my self a born again rebel maintained a bit of control in that class. Here I am 60 years later and can honestly say it did help. But at the time I could not say that. Here I am 60 years later no pain and a very little bit more of learning.

Thanks for the reply. You born again rebel you. Very interesting perspective indeed. I think one of the main poblems is, as you put it, there is a difference between the rebels/renegade students and the followers. And in alot of cases in my time at school the teachers punished the lot instead of the 'ringleader/s'. Collective punishment was a common thing which bred more decent and more unruly behaviour

As for your question' what modern techniques do we have that work ?' WOW! Very tough question to answer indeed. Maybe giving incentives for good behavior as opposed to physical punishment for bad behaviour. Just my idea only.

I do understand that there is definately two clear cut sides to this debate. Both have good and bad points.

I used to cop 6 of the best across the hands when i f##ked up at school as a youngter. Hurty hurties. Especially in the winter. Don't think it did much good. IMO physical punishment such as this is real cave man techniques.IMO . Burn me if you will.

Makes no difference how much or how little they are dealing they are all selling death.

Punishments should reflect that fact.

I understand that small-time pot dealers are 'selling death', because waayyy up the chain one of their suppliers probably has killed someone else over the business. But you want to pin that one the small-time pot dealer?

By the same logic, what about Phillip Morris Inc. (who make L&M, Marlboro, etc.) and all those 'legal' drug dealers? Aren't they selling death too (OK, not through business-orientated hits but through literally selling death)? And Boonrawd brewery? What about pretty-much any chocolate? Nestle baby-milk products? Cars?

You can't put all drugs in the same boat. Law tends to put them in two categories - legal ones and illegal ones. We keep seeing legal ones shift into illegal ones (as governments find out they might be harmful after all, or they find that a major corporation is losing business due to this drug), but illegal ones very rarely become legal even though (in some cases) thousands of years of 'abuse' have not caused a single casualty. How about this - going to an NHS state hospital in the UK is more hazardous to your health than using pure heroine.

I'm not sure of your logic here. Yes cigarettes kill but they are already legal so stopping them is more difficult but that doesn't mean other things should be given the same status. Alchohol is pretty safe and can be beneficial in thinning blood. It's its misuse which kills either through liver damage or due to the adverse effects on behaviour such as violence and dangerous driving. As for the rest well even water will kill you if drunk to excess as far as I know.

I'm not sure of the accuracy of your facts about the NHS but it's worth pointing out that most people going to NHS hospital are ill to start with and some have very serious health conditions. I have been to hospital after a car crash, had operations for an acoustic neuroma and a hernia. If you had these or any other serious physical or mental problem would you honestly ask to be taken to a heroin dealer rather than an NHS doctor?

How would you know if something has been used for thousands of years if there has or has not been a single casualty?

I think Governments like the tax revenue smoking and consuming alcohol brings in.

Without getting a slanging match going here I would just like to ask if I may for my own information........

Has anyone notice that the problem of leading elephants into Chiang Mai city at night has been stop after the multiple 'unsavoury' incidents around Christmas/ New Years between Mahouts and tourist? Such as the assault of Australians Kingsley William 41 and Kim Kavanagh on Loi Kroh street in December.

Since these incidents I have not seen one elephant walking the streets. Or have I just been a good little boy and been back home in bed before they come out? :jap:

"Suthep said the relevant authorities should revoke firearm-possession licences of people involved in the drug trade."

Gee! I hope this isn't news for the provincial authorities. I mean F##k. Talk about stating the obvious.

Ohh stop your worrying guys. Viagra is not an addictive med so the come down will be nothing.

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cannot be possibley be enforced without a major draw on already lacking police manpower.

I've never had the impression that the police are lacking manpower. IMHO, there are actually too many of them, in all the wrong places. If they actually tried enforcing the law for a change, instead of letting all the real criminals off so as to line their pockets - and if they turned their attention away from their favourite hobby of fleecing motorists and exacerbating Bangkok's traffic problems with their many and badly placed roadblocks - perhaps Bangkok would be a safer place to be and innocent youths can exercise their right to freedom at any time of the day or night.

Another TiT story, just when you thought you'd heard it all.

Yes. I do agree. Maybe I should have added the word 'QUALITY' infront of police manpower. Maybe that would be a better way of putting it.

Could the Chinese, when they come, teach them to do some tricks or something, and have a show, like the seals? The movie "On the Trail of the Panda" was a lot more interesting than seeing the animals in person. poot len - they're kind of cool, and they like it cool where they sleep, take a jacket.

My kids tell me, the movie "Kung-<deleted> Panda" might provide inspiration, although I don't myself know this work ?

Well let's hope Chuang Chuang can do another number on Lin Hui real soon. It would be a good case for the Chinese to let them stay on if she is up the duff again. Fingers are crossed. Chiang Mai just wouldn't be the same without this lovely little family.

I think Lin Ping was the result of A.I., as Chuang Chuang was too-overweight to perform, but may have read that in some unreliable/prurient tabloid-newspaper ? Hopefully he is now of a more-athletic build ? Cut down on those 'Oreos' !

But it would indeed be cruel to split the family up, by sending any/all of them home as the existing contract requires, perhaps Immigration would 'bend the rules' and issue tourist-visas for more pandas, on (com)passionate grounds ?

Yes. You are correct. It was a A.I job. Maybe they can put him on a diet and exercise program. Hahaha. And maybe a Viagra or two for the old boy. [Joke]

I am with you. Hope they can stay on longer. I love them to death.

there is only 1 way you can spell it. พอล โจนส์

Which will be pronounced by the most Thais as Pawn Jone.

No.You will be surprised how Thais can get the L sound out as an ending constanant when it is a name of a foriegner. I have a friend who's name is just that and have tried it on alot of my Thai friends who ALL pronounced it as PauL.This of course is an exception to Thai language rules of ending L is pronounced as a N because it is not a Thai word.

And 'Jone' as you put it is as close as you will get to Jones. Without our little friend ไม้ทัณฑฆาต the sound would be nowhere near as close as โจนส์.

The rule is if you change the spelling of an English name you MUST translate it using ALL the English letters with the corresponding Thai letters. Of course it is not going to sound excactly the way it sounds in English. That is simply impossible unless the speaker is trained to pronounce they name like a native speker. That is one reason why we all speak foriegn languages with an accent.

Aren't foriegn languages just great fun ??

I think we've been through this already. Thanks for contributing but please read the entire thread first before jumping in the middle and reiterating what we've already discussed.

Iranians are not Arabs. Don't forget it. They are a world apart.

This would explain TATs numbers - and this is from last year.

Western nations numbers plummet.

Arab numbers sky rocket.

Arabs now make up 20% of arrivals. Add the Iranians, Indians, Chinese, Balkans and Russians and you have the new face of Thai tourism. I guess you take what you can get no?

The irony is for all these years we have been told how the Backpacker and the old scruffy retiree was the bane of Thai tourism and how Thailand wants (only) "upscale" tourists.

So look what they have now, poor Arabs/Indians on a cheap holiday. Bunch of Iranian kids looking for some ass.

Som nam na

Whoever stated that I have long been prediciting Thailand's demise (but it never comes). It's been in your face for years...

Poor Arabs? The Middle Eastern tourist you see here and tarveling elsewhere around the globe are far from 'poor'.

there is only 1 way you can spell it. พอล โจนส์

Which will be pronounced by the most Thais as Pawn Jone.

No.You will be surprised how Thais can get the L sound out as an ending constanant when it is a name of a foriegner. I have a friend who's name is just that and have tried it on alot of my Thai friends who ALL pronounced it as PauL.This of course is an exception to Thai language rules of ending L is pronounced as a N because it is not a Thai word.

And 'Jone' as you put it is as close as you will get to Jones. Without our little friend ไม้ทัณฑฆาต the sound would be nowhere near as close as โจนส์.

The rule is if you change the spelling of an English name you MUST translate it using ALL the English letters with the corresponding Thai letters. Of course it is not going to sound excactly the way it sounds in English. That is simply impossible unless the speaker is trained to pronounce they name like a native speker. That is one reason why we all speak foriegn languages with an accent.

Aren't foriegn languages just great fun ??

Just as they announce that they are going to cut crime by 20% within the next six months. They go and make more pathetic laws that cannot be possibley be enforced without a major draw on already lacking police manpower.This law in itself will raise criminal acts in Bangkok 10 fold with the ammount of youths out after 10pm. I mean.... Please!

Give them a break, they are trying to do something, anything to get youth crime down to a minimum. Many countries around the world have somewhat similar curfews. To do nothing is a crime. Do you know where your children will be after 10:00 PM? If you have any.

yes I agree Thailand may not be your country it may not have the resources your country has or the man power behind the police forces. Listen I have only lived in Thailand 3 years (not long I know) but in them years I have seen the same as you people.

I.E: corruption, stupidity, prostitution, crime, and much more but I also see very warm people who are kinder than most in the UK and to us these ideas may be insane or stupid or your country may have tried it and not worked but give THAILAND a break people. I would not like my 2 boys out after 10pm under the age of 18 thats just bad parenting in my country. but here in thailand i say try anything and if it helps even a little then it was worth the effort.

and please stop berating the Thai police YES they are corrupt and so would you be if you had to carry a gun and risk your life for PEANUTS. I would be corrupt too come on people get honest you want to live in a poor country then corruption and everything else comes with it so lets give thailand a break.

by OZ

:jerk:

"Why are you picking on the Thais over this?

You've obviously never lived in Los Angeles. If someone didn't tell me this happened in Bangkok, I would have immediately assumed this was LA. Actually, Thai drivers are extremely well mannered, the culture is not nearly as morally bankrupt as the culture in the US, and if you want to see drivers acting like children with guns this is not even close to the best place to view that activity. I have been here over a decade, and rarely hear of road rage leading to shootings. I can't say the same thing about the states.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. It's just that your opinion is wrong."

I agree with all of your statement GREGB except the bit in Bold Print.