ThaiFelix

6 hours ago, Karma80 said:

Whatever. More promises and reliance on Sinovac that nobody now wants.

 

 

You must have some reliable information to be making such a claim.......care to share the source?  link? 

Be careful some Licensing centres wont accept from a clinic, must be from a hospital.  Best to check first.  I always pay 100 baht, sometimes I dont even see the doctor.

10 hours ago, cncltd1973 said:

? Which propaganda machine are you working for? Thailand or China?

WHO just gave Sinovac 51% efficacy in their July statistics, making it officially the lowest efficacy rate. No better than 50/50 odds in the real world. Corruption is also an official concern with this vax, and the line of corruption from China to Thailand is well known. Yes, China-USA will never see eye to eye, but you don't need to even play that card when the supporting facts throw a lot of shade on this vax. Or look at how Thailand is phasing it out in favor of any other vax. Or look at how medical staff are catching the virus even after 2 doses of the stuff.

I wonder if the Thai military trolls have a presence on this forum, I called out Steven100 some weeks ago and he promptly disappeared. Strange.

I work for no propaganda machine nor do I accuse anybody of working for one.  I was merely pointing out the influence of such machines.  I am sure both China and the US have people about spreading misinformation....neither party is innocent of such activities.  What I do object to is the constant rubbishing of Sinovac merely because it comes from China.  Many of these comments, as I previously stated, are vindictive in nature with no basis in fact at all.  Some even go so far as to attempt to present theories as proof and repeat them over and over again causing others to then believe them.

Now please, somebody correct me if I am wrong, I'm certainly not a full bottle on Covid, but from what I understand, these vax's do not stop you from contracting nor spreading Covid, they only reduce the suffering and in turn reduce the number of hospitalisations and deaths.  For whatever reason, the Thai govt in the past has had a preference for Sinovac making it much more available to the people of Thailand than any other vax.  You cant blame that on China.

Sinovac was developed at a time when it had no variants.  Its pretty impossible, I imagine, to develop a vax against a variant that doesn't yet exist.  Some say Sinovac is less effective against the Delta variant.  This maybe so but you cant blame that on Sinovac or China.  Vax's cannot be developed, tested and approved overnight.  We still don't have a vax for the common cold, HIV etc.  I had my 2nd AZ shot two days ago from the local hospital but on both occasions I thought I was getting Sinovac until I walked in the door.  I was happy to get Sinovac because even if only 1% effective it is still far better than no vax, especially if its possible to top up with another type later if found necessary.

Variant or no variant, I wonder what the situation would be now if Thailand didn't use Sinovac but instead waited for supplies, IN QUANTITY, to come from other suppliers.  I am sure we would be in a lot worse situation.   The Thai govt was late in trying to acquire supplies of any vax, for whatever reason, and it seems China was the only source who could supply anywhere near the quantities required.  How can you blame China or Sinovac for the govt's inaction.  At least we had one vax even if some say it has minimal effect....still better than none.

The biggest problem is the understanding of the virus itself.  As others have pointed out, its very complicated.  It takes a lot of time to get to understand how the virus works let alone how to fight it.  And then it mutates to a new varient requiring more time consuming research.  Its new, nobody is a full bottle on the subject. 

People just need to be patient.  They need to try to protect themselves best they can and with whatever is available.  Comments calling Sinovac 'rubbish' or 'give it to the soi dogs' can be very damaging to some and only makes the authors the laughing stock of those less ignorant.  Likewise claiming Covid19 originated in China is damaging as it fuels racism even though there is no proof, plenty of theories yes, but theories are not proof just as there is still no proof that the Spanish flu originated from Spain even though the name implies it. 

"Repeat something often enough and it becomes the truth" Joseph Goebbals, Nazi Minister of Propaganda.

6 hours ago, Tonypandy said:

Sinovac is working in China, just compare figures of cases and deaths between US and China. 

Sure but I wouldnt rely too much on figures coming out of the US.

I keep hearing these reports about preserving the good reputation of the RTP.  But who is this good policeman?  Why do they never name him if he is so good??  ????

Fake police or fake Thai police?    I think if you asked the average Thai they would consider a group of individuals to be fake Thai police if NOT extorting money .

Do you have access to a Tardis by any chance?  Otherwise you will have a long wait.

21 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Based on the fact that he knew he would die if he didn't cough up the two million baht that was demanded. His fault. If he had paid up he'd be alive now.

(for the hard of understanding, I'm just applying Thai, not Western, logic)

I get your joke? but there is also another factor here that many dont realise.  It happened to someone I knew years ago.  The guy gets busted and all his drugs and money were seized.  However he still owes for those drugs and those he owes it to are a bigger threat than the police.  They can still get you inside....you cant hide in there.  The guy I knew was back in business the morning he was bailed and out of sheer necessity to protect himself and his family.

9 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Possibly the crowd who claimed a cure for cancer a few years back?

No I think it was the ones who claimed a cure for ebola.

7 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

This is like the roaring 20's in the U.S. when cops were owned by the crooks.

Its no different now, its just that the crooks are big business along with the Govt.    Look at the Oxycontin pandemic as an easy example.  The main culprit, Purdu I think it was, was found guilty and fined 1 million bucks out of an annual income in the billions......does that sound like a penalty or just a 'drink'?

I first visited Pattaya back in the early to mid 1980's and I dont remember seeing the beach although I only stayed a couple of days.  I seem to remember a lot of vegetation along 1 side of the road and imagined the beach was obscured on the other side of it.  Did Pattaya suffer this damage back then or is it just a recent problem?  It would be interesting to see photos of beach road back then if anybody has any?

On 8/27/2021 at 10:24 AM, GammaGlobulin said:

Kind people.

Adequate infrastructure.

Good housing.

And, so much more.

You missed out courteous police force.

OH NO!!  This is serious bad news!  We are going to have to see TAT revised projection figures all over the news again tomorrow!!

The Sandbox is a bit like a Cockroach Motel:  You can check in but you cant check out!

I bought a new CD player today and printed across the plastic packaging was:           KEEP OUT OF CHILDREN'S AND THAI POLICE SUPERINTENDANT'S REACH!

3 hours ago, webfact said:

"I was only doing my job and didn't mean to hurt anyone. That's the truth"

Oh I see.  Could I please see a copy of your job description and work procedures?

8 hours ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said:

I just can't fathom it. Cars are a pain. Most normal people would have misgivings after the 4th car, or maybe the 10th car. Even for the collectors I watch on YouTube that's too much. Isn't it a lot of trouble to keep all these around? To maintain them? How could I possibly have enough time to use them all? Nope. Just keep racking up that list, filling that room, for everyone to see. The most cars, the biggest mansions, the hottest chicks. And especially in this country with its inequality and poverty. Absolutely no guilt. The ego, the gall.

I was just thinking how the cost of rego and insurance on my 2013 Vigo Champ was somewhat of a burden each year.  Imagine how much it would cost for 29 high end vehicles plus maintenance etc??  How much would that work out per km?  Its staggering.

39 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

He's in Custody now, wonder how long he survives because of his bosses.

Hes been caught?  Do you have a link for that please?

8 minutes ago, Whale said:

Its in the write up, a junior police officer who was scared for his own life as he knew about it.

I also thought I read somewhere that fellow officers were displeased with the division of the bribe money though it seems now no-one got anything from the take.