jonclark

11 hours ago, Natai Beach said:

 

Not really Jon. 
They were here illegally, border jumpers. Which caused the recent Chaing Mai covid outbreak.
And they were illegal workers in Bangkok. Which caused the recent Samut Sakon covid outbreak. 

In the link it says the men were from Pakistan and India, both being countries with a large covid problem, and they most likely came through Myanmar where most of the recent covid cases have come from. 
 

And they were breaking an emergency decree, sharing hookers, which is an activity that is likely to spread covid. 
The 42 Thais were all females. 
 

The 42 Thais were fined 5,000 baht for breaking the decree. The Indians and Pakistanis were fined 10,000 for breaking the decree and will have to pay more for the other charges before being deported.

 

Get rid of them. 
 

https://www.thairath.co.th/news/local/bangkok/2014020?cx_testId=7&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=2&cx_rec_section=news&cx_rec_topic=crime#cxrecs_s

As I said 85 people were detained for breaking the emergecy decree that is the simple story here.

Anything else is just deflectionist hyperbole to spread fear, distrust and suspicion that all of Thailands woes are not of Thailands making and that the finger of blame should be pointed elsewhere. Thank you for reinforcing my point with a brilliantly crafted response. 

I would be more impressed if they could think of a name that does not involve the word 'Chana' . But then again given the PMs surname it's hardly surprising his acolytes have come up with such a name.

4 hours ago, webfact said:

.. trips can report that Finns have definitely caught the traveling bug ...

Probably not the best description if the Finn's expect to be welcomed here. The mere though of the words foreigner and bug in the same sentence will result in two weeks detention.

24 minutes ago, Artisi said:

How do you come to that mind shattering conclusion? 

Sarcasm ????

12 minutes ago, smedly said:

 

I believe they are both considerably more expensive and more likely the reason Thailand will exclude them 

There is a cost difference. The sinovac is 10 dollars a shot and needs two shots.  Astrazeneca is between 4 -6 dollars a shot and needs two shots. The Russian sputnik is 10 dollars a shot and also need two shots. Modern a is the most expensive at about 35 dollars .

Just now, jonclark said:

All you need to know about why competing vaccines are being negatively portrayed and questioned while the Chinese vaccine is not being as scrutinized as much.

 

"Sinovac Biotech made headlines in early December 2020 when it secured US$515 million in funding for production of the vaccine from China-based Sino Biopharmaceutical Ltd, a subsidiary of the Charoen Pokphand (CP) Group."

 

If you wish to know more about the people behind CP group and their place in the echelon's of Thailand fixed social hierarchy. Google it. They are pretty high up.

Double post

I think the most pertinent thing we can all take from this is: would you want to send you kids to a school that operates like this, especially if it's a fee paying school?  Plenty of other options. 

2 hours ago, robblok said:

That is true, but it never said anything about cost. Why not make it mandatory and let the foreigners who don't work and pay thai wages tax pay for their own vaccination.

 

Your right that from an outbreak point of view its better, but paying for it is a different story.

 

I just feel that only people who pay into a system are entitled to benefits from it. People like me who chose to live somewhere else can be expected to pay for it if they are not paying into the system (vat does not count).

 

 

Rob I agree with you in most instances that people who pay into the system should receive. But this is different. In order to move forward and rid ourselves of this pox all people have to be vaccinated, whatever there nationality, in national vaccination programs. 

Last thing anyone wants is for people to not get vaccinated for whatever reason, cost, unequal access to timely healthcare, fear, visa status etc. and they contract it and it mutates and the new strain is resistant to the vaccine and it spreads in the general population again. The economic cost of the lockdowns and distribution to businesses in Thailand is many orders of magnitude greater than the cost of vaccinating every single man, woman and child in Thailand. Vaccinating everyone cheaply is the most economical way forward. How much has the government spent supporting business with its cash handouts, 50:50 co payment schemes etc over the past 12 months . Compare that with the vaccination costs for everyone in Thailand. 

I bet he claims he was just following his GPS and got lost. 

https://thethaiger.com/news/bangkok/truck-driver-blames-gps-for-ending-up-in-klong

As for fast and furious - from the video it looks more like slow and sleepy. 

This is brilliant. 300 baht and you get medical insurance without the need for a prior medical for underlying conditions. I am telling my parents to get on a plane asap and skip the horrdeous waiting times in the NHS. 

Come to Thailand, feign an illness get into hospital and get treated for the underlying condition. Result. 

Because all know exactly what hospitals do when the know an insurance company is involved $$$$$$$ - greed extends beyond the walls of government in Thailand and if it can be skimmed, it will be skimmed. Just use it to your advantage. 

And for those moaning that 300 baht is a lot  - if it includes insurance, which it does according to the minister, thats a lot cheaper than having to pay for travel insurance for your country of origin. 

Right gonna phone my parents

20 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

This is very good news, let's hope it is rolled out nationwide and then opened up to all.  Only then will there be a true picture of how widespread this virus has become and they can start the closures as another OP says should be done.  Waiting on all of those who have bashed me for recommending further testing by this Goverment to bash this OP as well.  Thank you SSO for stepping up to help the people here in Thailand get an actual idea in order to solve the issue.

Why are you thanking the SSO and government? We should not have to thank them for doing their job. I would have thought the Office of Public Health would have done this earlier. 

Glad it is happening. Apparently 17000 were tested in Nontaburi yesterday and 800 or so came back positive. The source was Thai social media (hardly reliable I know). 

This is not bashing as you are clearly very sensitive about that...just a difference in opinion. 

7 hours ago, Natai Beach said:

The OP is presented as a translation of the Thai news source, by Thais.

 

The “hiatus” narrative and headline was a fabrication of the translator, who I assume is a farang, and has no truth. Then you commented about the fabricated “hiatus” as if it really happened.
 

Apologist? Sorry about that. My sincerest condolences. 
 

It seems QAnon has arrived in Thailand.

So immigration have stopped illegally entering people from leaving Thailand. Would have been better if you stopped them from entering in the first place.

From some of the social media 'gossip' doing the rounds - and this news is actually two days old. It broke on Wednesday on local social media as I saw that exact same krungsiri announcement on a Thai twitter feed. A member of staff at one of the branches tested positive for Covid. But that staff member had also been in contact with bank employees from the other branches as well, so they closed all of them. No mention of how many customers came into contact with the staff member.

This is based from social media twitter feeds.  

Now where would a banker get covid from? We all know bankers love to play with money? 

14 hours ago, Crossy said:

And then the flip-flop, Thai only at present but I'm sure the English press will have it soon. Google Translate does a "reasonable" job.

 

https://www.matichon.co.th/politics/news_2517929

 

The U turn has now been completed. It is not compulsory. All a big misunderstanding and Anutin has spoken to Prayut to come up with new guidance.

32 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:

it is only going to get much worse and sadly I do not think the Thai government is ready for it. Also late getting any vaccines ordered.

I think it will a going to get worse, but I do think you will feel find that Thailand will be far better prepared than most think. Though not without problems and bumps in the road. The vast majority will follow government advice as many people have had the fear of God put into them over this virus through local media 

We will all be okay and we will all get through this. Stay safe, wear mask and stay home as much as possible..and use the time to plan your next big adventure...or learn Thai as there are many online courses available now.

58 minutes ago, welshguy said:

I think I could just about! "do"! the A.S.Q. (a balcony would be really really good I reckon?)   No way would I fancy going into one of these "wards" or whatever they are called though!

 

I also wouldnt have 100% confidence in a thai covid test result.

 

 

The photo shown is the field hospital set up at Samut sakorn market. I do share your concerns about staying there though. Those are not beds, but wooden benches with the thinnest of mattresses (and I use that word matress in the most liberal sense) with a pillow.