jonclark

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

so much for social distancing ...... I am sure we'll see a spike in COVID19 ....

only themselves to blame. 

I think the only spike we will see will be the one that this government is impaled on. Rectum first.

6 minutes ago, steven100 said:

I'm referring to Thaksin of coarse. He's out of the equation, so why does he keep talking. 

For the same reason you do I guess; to further your agenda and political views.

Btw Taksin is not wanted by Interpol or others. His 'crimes' such as they are, are limited to Thailand. Although I notice that Prayut has jumped on Taksins populist bandwagon to shore up support for himself.

This man owned Man City football club and passed the EPL fit and proper assesment prior to his takeover. Being wanted by Interpol is an instant fail.

Are Thais better off now than 14 years ago? Difficult question to answer, I would hedge my bets and say at least economically no. Household Debt to GDP has risen from about 50% in 2008 to are me 75% now.  The % of graduates out of work has risen. And Thailand has dropped on the world happiness index from 6.8 to 6.0. And income held by the poorest 10% has dropped annually in the last 4-5 years.

Would all of this have been different under Taksin and without successive coups? Well there is no way of knowing and is just speculation.

1 hour ago, Fex Bluse said:

The country is broke 

Not sure about broke, but money has gone AWOL. Coincidentally yesterday mornings Thai news had a big feature following a number of reports from around the country of pensioners turning up to collect their 600 baht monthly pension and being told that there was no money from the government for this month at the local amour offices.  Following a bit of digging it does appear that no pensioners are going to get this month's money. 

1 minute ago, vogie said:

I sure that you'll agree that once the referendum returned a win for leaving the EU, we were going to leave, anything else would have been catastrophic for democracy and indeed our country. So having said that, it was a choice of what deal which suited you the best, you chose to ignore all the deals or options put to you, but if you or the Labour Party didn't buy a raffle ticket you were never going to win a prize. You have by your own apathy landed us where we are today, you have had your last drink in the last chance saloon, you cannot complain when you/remainers are responsible for unwittingly getting us further away from the EU than any Brexiteer could have possibly ever dreamt of.

'Eventually we will rejoin the EU' there, there, of course you will.????????????

Sorry the people that wished to remain are resonsible for the shambles the brexiters have created? You are responsible for this mess. I have no idea what the Labour party has to do with this but it probably is their fault, along with the EU / UN etc etc for the complete mess that Boris, May and chums have greated. If only the EU had agreed to all our terms / demands things owuld have been so much similer wouldn't they? What awful people they are.  But you deny all responsibility and create a candyfloss of confected rage (borrowed that one from rees moog) when the coutries of the EU use their own soverign powers to disadvantaged the UK and claim its not fair and not your fault. This mess is your fault - wallow in it and enjoy it. 

Like i said I have no personal investment or interest in Brexit, but I am enjoying watching the brexiters furiously polishing the turd that is their 'deal' before presenting it to a rather bewildered and frankly disappointed voter base. 

32 minutes ago, vogie said:

I don't know

Never a truer word spoken. 

Sorry couldn't resist -

...A bit like Boris and a buscuit tin. 

13 minutes ago, vogie said:

I don't know as nothing has been discussed yet, Barnier is waiting for us to bend over and think of England.

But while your there do you regret not taking Mays Brino deal?

No I do not regret taking Mays deal. Although I am sure a very large number of Tories do now. Kinda like the people who regret voting for Brexit now. But that's democracy eventually the wheel will spin full circle and we will want to rejoin the EU.

Just now, vogie said:

And there you have it, as a remainer the fault always lies at the British and never the EU, someone needs a reality check. Barnier is never going to agree to even start trade negotiations untill we give in to his impossible demands.

And there you have it as a leaver the fault always lies at the EU and never us Brits.

We chose to leave them freely and democratically  Do you actualy think the EU is going to let us leave and still have access to their economic market on terms which we decide and are benificial to us?  - I think you need a reality check my bexiter friend. The EU is a collection of soverign nations (just like the UK) who collectively make decisions based on their collective benifit (just like the UK). 

1 hour ago, vogie said:

You may say that you accept democracy but by reading what you are posting it is saying something else, do you really accept democracy when a lot of your posts are insults at our leaders. The UK voted to leave the EU, the remainers could have accepted a half way house version of Brexit but they refused to vote for Mays Brino deal, you see when someone offers you a piece of pie, it is sometimes better to only take half, than hope the whole pie will come your way, greed has left you with no pie. You are just as instrumental in where we are today as much as the leavers, infact we could not have left without the help of the remainers.

 

Lol - suggesting an acceptance of democracy embodies an acceptance of 'our' leaders. Core to the democract principle is that our leaders are accountable to their people - both the remainers and leavers - all are equal! And when they act like cretins who push their own political ideologies as singluar and factual and then proceed to make a complete mess of their ideologies and promises to people during their campagins to make them leaders, an insult actually seems to be a rather light rebuke. If I had been as cavalier in my approach to my job, my employer would have handed me my P45 the very next day I walked through the office door. 

I think what you misunderstand is that despite me wishing the UK to remain, I have nothing invested in it either way. However, the UK government (s) - May and Johnson and their little band of merry elves, have been unable to deliver anything to the British public, other than confusion, contradiction and economic uncerteinty. Which you seem to think is the best way to get Brexit done. And that if anything goes wrong it is someone else fault....cause we won the referendum. 

34 minutes ago, vogie said:

Barniers bullyboy tactics has backfired, brace yourself europe, you're in for bumpy ride.

You think? Without a trade deal the UK will probably have a far more diffcult ride than the EU. Most of the UKs food, medicine and raw materials are imported  (from the EU) and without a trade deal - (and at the moment the UK have a solitary trade deal with Japan i beleive) the cost of all imports will increase - which means higher consumer prices and also UK exports will dip as they too will become less competative. If a deal was never important, why spend so much time trying to get one. Do not beleive Boris's bluster - he is absolutly bricking it and praying that the EU blinks first...which I do not think for one moment they will.

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Remainer? ????????????

Yes, but as a firm beleiver in the democratic process and the principles that underpin it, I accept the decision of the majority. However, many who voted to leave seem (it appears) rather disillusioned with the brexit process and the decisons of those who claim to be acting UKs interests, as a soveriegn nation.  Why is that I wonder. Could it be that their promises have turned out to be as shallow and vacuous as those of a snake oil salesperson? and their ability to deliver is just non-existant.  I may have wished the UK to remain in the EU, but having departed the UKs shores many, many years ago (an original Brexiter one might say) I have very little invested in the UK being in or out of the EU. Other than personal opinion. I lost the right to vote on such matters a long time ago.  

I think what Brexit has proven is the the UK and the British people are very easily divided and clearly are not as unified and strong as we like to think we are. A fact you have reinforced with your use of emojis. 

14 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Besides, Mr Predee’s resignation did not have an impact on the economic work of the government because the prime minister already had his economic advisers,

Hmmm, maybe that's why he resigned. He realized he simply wasn't needed?

4 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

 

Anyway the contact tracers will have to do some work now.

 No problem. I am sure there the records from the 'Thai Channa' app have all been stored correctly for the past 3 -6 weeks for the locations this gent worked in, making tracing simple and easy. ????