JonnyF

I'm just waiting for all the evidence to be presented before I reach my conclusions. That seems a perfectly logical and reasonable position to take. We've seen how things can emerge later on that are not apparent in the immediate aftermath, especially when it has political connotations. Therefore I prefer to wait for a full investigation before reaching my conclusions. If you consider that despicable, well, let's just say I find that assessment a little extreme but each to their own.

Of course I will believe what I see/hear on the tapes. 911 calls are recorded. Police wear body cams to situations like these. Wealthy built up areas like these have multiple CCTV cameras. As do wealthy politicians who have received threats in the past. If all of that goes missing, yes I might think that's a bit strange.

A statement by the police chief that they have no evidence of something, a day after an alleged crime is not definitive proof of the truth. The truth must be determined in a court of law after a thorough investigation, when all the evidence (CCTV, body cam footage. recordings of phone calls, questioning on the stand of victim and accused etc.) has been presented and assessed, and a verdict reached.

Agreed. Of course based on that definition you still have to know what is a "loony conspiracy theory" and what is a genuine "cover-up". There are examples of both in US politics in the past. Which is why I've said "let's wait and see what eventually comes out" from the very start. Too many conflicting reports, no CCTV etc. Speculation is of course a natural thing for people to do in such a situation. It is a forum, differing opinions should be welcomed and respected.

Hysterical nonsense. Get a grip.

Again with the conspiracy. Some people believed what Politico reported. Simple as. Take it up with Politico.

Dog was clearly startled and nipped the girl. Hardly national news (apart from the fact it's a PitBull so it gets clicks). Happened to me a month ago when I was up on our farm, on our land, by a local unchained neighbour's dog. I wonder why that didn't make the news? I guess it wasn't a bull breed so it wouldn't have got all the pearl clutchers up in arms.

Yes I see they "corrected" that. But my point stands, someone reading it is not a conspiracy theorist for believing it was accurate. That is the fault of Politico, not the reader. I know my posting history, please point out anything you found offensive. I haven't said anything controversial, the most controversial thing I said was let's wait for the facts to come out before reaching a conclusion.

It's not a conspiracy to read a report from Politico stating there was a third person in the house, and to theorize on that basis that there could have been a third person in the house. It's a perfectly logical conclusion to reach based on the evidence presented at that point. The fact they have subsequently reversed that story is interesting to me. I would certainly be keen to see the police body cam footage with my own eyes. However, I strongly suspect it will never be released. Let's wait and see for all the facts to emerge rather than stories that are constantly changing. Reminds me of the Koh Tao attack on the UK couple, a distinct lack of CCTV images and so many conflicting reports it's difficult to know what to believe.

Yep, here's the one that got me. It takes the photo of the rear plate. Seen from the highway and the same camera more clearly from the road below. Plus like you said, CCTV will often pick up the rear plate when drivers are doing something stupid/illegal.

He's absolutely right. I'm pretty sure he will be ignored though. I hope I'm wrong.

Some speed cameras take the shot of the rear of your car as you pass it. The elevated Chalongrat highway has quite a few of these, I've been caught myself. The etc. I used was to highlight other potential reasons to cover the rear plate, such as dash cams catching you in road rage incidents, fleeing the scene of an accident, hit and run etc.

No, these are sprayed. I've seen brand new cars (new models released within the last 6 months) where the lettering is completely white. Clearly been sprayed to avoid speeding tickets etc.

Wow - some thin skins on social media. Some people just love to be offended I guess, they think it makes them look morally superior. In reality, it makes them look weak minded and lacking in a sense of humour.

I have no interest in him being found Guilty or Not Guilty. I only wish for the truth to come out in a timely manner, with no cover ups and political interference.

Not a conspiracy. Just an observation based on the photo. When you break glass from the outside, it falls away from you into the building. It doesn't fly back at you. Likewise, it is difficult for a large male to fit through a gap in broken glass that small without getting significant lacerations. If the doors had been opened, the glass would have fallen in the arc where the door swings open. Not around a meter directly out, and even in front of the adjacent door, opposite to the direction that the door opens and that doesn't have broken glass. That glass looks like it has been smashed from the inside. Anyway, I'm sure the CCTV, bodycam footage and a thorough investigation will clear all this up.

There must be countless CCTV cameras inside the Pelosi's home, not to mention the body cam footage from police, local residents homes CCTV etc. Lots of rumours circling at the moment, hopefully the CCTV cameras and police body cams weren't all malfunctioning like they do when anyone with money/power in Thailand gets into trouble. But given recent events in the US, I have to say it wouldn't surprise me if they were all magically 'broken' for the duration of the 'attack'.

Weird how so much glass was on the outside even though he allegedly broke IN. Normally glass goes into the house on such occasions. Not sure how he'd fit through that hole either. Certainly not without ripping himself to shreds on broken glass. Also, weird is the total lack of security for such a high profile figure. Anyway, with the FBI working on this I'm sure all the details will come out 100% truthfully. Whatever really happened, hopefully Pelosi makes a full recovery.

Not off topic. An example of how the left are prepared to ignore the medical conditions of those they consider to be right wing. Kanye is Bipolar, Who cares? A Tory needs resuscitating? Who cares? #bekind

I was talking about why the MSM have singled out Kanye as opposed to multiple other black artists with homophobic, misogynistic views. Then you diverted to the % of Republicans that support MAGA. It was off topic. Anyway, I'm off to twitter. This post will probably be deleted before you read it. Ciao.

This topic is not about the % of Republicans that support MAGA. Nice diversion though.

I do not believe these executives were fired for their political leanings. In fact there are rumours it was staged and the actors were not employees. Let's see how that plays out. As a result of Musk buying Twitter I will certainly be spending much more time there engaging in open debates where everyone has a voice, rather than platforms that censor posts based on political opinion. After all, without posters these platforms are worth nothing. I am sure Twitter will thrive now. I hope so. Well done Elon, please allow free speech for both sides. Even the left deserve their voice, their opinion. Let's have open debate. Free speech for all.

I couldn't agree more. However he is a MAGA hat wearing Republican so that makes him fair game for the #bekind gang. Mental illness or not, he must be humiliated, then cancelled. Remember, these people believe people who vote Conservative do not deserve to be resuscitated in a medical emergency. This is the mentality we are dealing with. Sad, but true (I have links).

Has he allowed Trump back on yet? Genuine question. There are no streams of Progressive tears running down my soi this morning, I haven't seen any bodies attached to "man buns" falling from Thong Lor condos so I would assume its business as usual? Let's hope he reinstates freedom of speech for BOTH sides of the political divide, unlike a lot of social media platforms that I could mention but won't for obvious reasons.

The guy on the left looks like he's about to unveil his elaborate plan for the tortuous death of Mizter Bond.