tmd5855

I wonder why they chose to execute convicted drug dealers rather than convicted murderers ?

Hopefully, it will be the murderers turn next, in fact, they ought to expedite the deaths of all those on death row - once their appeals have failed of course.

Who the <deleted> do you people think you are? God?

Christ, there are some neanderthal life forms who post on here....

As a father who lost his youngest son (See my earlier post's) to drugs and watched as my family came apart at the core owing to the loss and self blame.

I write again what I put a year or two ago.

I would flick the switch, pull the trigger, press the syringe and throw the lever.

If doing so meant that those that had peddled carnage, leaving in their wake torment, anguish and death where no longer able to.

To all you do-gooders and tree huggers out there, you will change your view when its your son in the coffin being covered by soil. The wrong person was inside.

Parents should never.......never, ever bury their children.

Been living with the same Thai girl now for 3+ years. every month there is a sum of money put into an account, she withdraws money to pay for the house, any utilities, food etc.

What is left over is for her own use.

She works in a 7/11, six days a week starting at 1 in the afternoon, finishing 10 at night 240-280bt a day (I think, don't ask).

That salary goes direct to her parents, she says, she keeps them, I keep her?

The original post of 30K is thought provoking, but me .......................I would say no.

What is she bringing to the table apart from sex.

What is all that money to be spent on/where is it going.

Does she expect increases in line with inflation, or just yearly increases?

If you get married will you still pay monthly?

Have told the GF everything is inverse proportional. The more you accrue, the less you need monthly.

If I were in your shoes..........................call her bluff, make an offer of 12K and she gets a job? Tell her "Dam Jai Kuhn"

Snapped this one infront of Ramkampaeng...

Times are alot tougher for these lot........

No believe you?? He is driving on the right??

ok, that's it, goodbye Thailand. i'm outta here.

By the way, can we all start posting pictures of cute girls in tight while shirts and black skirts again?

If you are proposing the motion?..............................

Okay, I will second the motion??

That proves men are from Mars, women from Venus? Must have been teleported to to Venus these past 6 years...........Why?

When I was at uni, 50% of the girls were wearing bib and brace blue overalls with doctor martin boots?

The other 50% were wearing afghan coats, hideously pink or purple cords, cheese cloth shirts with white boat/gym shoes.

Both groups drank pints of beer, smoked roll-ups and thought it hilarious to fart in public. Grew underarm hair and their hygeine was more that of a drunken prop or lock forward on a bad night.

Now there should of been a clampdown on Mars with that type of behaviour? Here on Venus, nope leave well alone

One thing to do is get a position with a multi national company and get a foreign post.

Other is to work offshore, opening for all technical skills etc, then spend your leave in Thailand.

I do 4 weeks on/off, work Far east, spend my leave in Thailand

Brings it to you with a bang.

I am 54, want to live to 90 with my Thai partner, but if I do not wake up tomorrow I know I will have had good thoughts inside and love beside me.

Benny, I hope you take with you pleasant and happy memories. God bless

R.I.P

An expat is someone who will experience culture shock if they move back to their home country.

Now that I agree with.

Been living here 6 years and quite tanned so obviously not an Ex-pat??

What I did suited me, may not suit others.

Work in the oil exploration business, same company past 14 years, now a tax exile after my UK marriage went down the tube

Company I work for had me in most parts of Northern Europe. Got sick of the cold and asked for a transfer out the Far East which was granted. Spend my leave in Thailand. Been doing this now for 6 years.

My advise is get a position with a Western company, offer yourself as willing to relocate.

Would not look inside Thailand, look at firms based in Singapore.

Best of luck

Why the hel_l these guys go and build a house and/or live within less than a days drive of their in-laws is beyond me. Certianly a recepie for trouble here. Livin' in some hick village with drunken, illerate locals, and dozens of soy dogs, chickens, etc, etc.

Read your post a few times. Still confused?

Can you get off the fence your sitting on and tells us straight, your thoughts on Thais

Makes me realise how lucky I am to have a Thai GF.

She found a 4 bed, 3 toilet/shower, detatched villa with communal pool for 20,000bt a month here in Pattaya (Central Park) owned by Thai's.

Lease expires end Sept 28th. Thai landlords know the GF is looking elsewhere, they are now phoning me asking me to stay and how much will I pay for another year. Or, maybe they do not have my 2 months deposit anymore

Up Sia Khao.................. Get a few of the older ladies that have already chopped guys bits off

Tell them 10 baht for each duck morsel, chop, chop, chop.

I have fat ducks.

PM me if you want a disposal

My relationship with my Thai (ex-bar girl) wife has been going on for over 30 years...started in 1977.

Is it happy...yes, it is.

Has it seen arguements and disagreements...yes, of course.

Have there been rough times.....yes, of course. We worked them out.

Have there been good times....yes there have. I remember them happily

And after those 30+ years I can honestly say I still love and respect her...and I know she does the same for me.

All in all, it's called REAL LIFE, and it's as good as you ever get.

By the way...this was the 3rd relationship I had in Thailand. The first two fell apart, but I got lucky with number 3.

Do you need to pay her family each month?

Just a quick response. No, she left her family long ago,before I met her. She never asked for money to support her parents or the "sick buffalo". She was quite independent in that regard.

She had 3 children by her first marriage. Her first husband left her with no money. I have raised the kids and put them through school. They are all now grown and working, There is a granddaughter that lives with the wife/kids. I have bought a house for them where I will live when I retire soon.

I think my marriage is as good and as lasting as the average marriage in the U.S. (my original home). Just look at the divorce rates. I could have done far worse.

Some "bar girls" are good, some are bad. I found a good one. Her whole life was devoted to her children...and ,by extesnsion, me as their surrogate father.

Good for you, well done.

Not one person here has a girl from a bar so far, so why worry, it is rare.

I'm surprised.

Probably because they believe others will think unkindly of them. And, they don't want any possible shame brought on their wives by posting on the internet.

I COULD have easily married two different Thai women who worked in bars at one point in their lives and we'd probably live quite happily, but I'm just not into getting married any more. I've done that twice with western women. And, not getting married to some woman 30 or 40 years junior to me is for the woman's sake, not my own. I wouldn't want them to be tied down to some old fart 15 years from now when they are still in the prime of their life.

I know two farang men in Thailand that are happily married to ex-bar girls after 10 years of marriage. They go through the usual problems that ALL couples go through when living together, but other than that they've never had a bad word to say about their wives who they obviously adore.

Women who work in bars can be no different than women anywhere. There are the great ones and the nasty ones, and everything in between. The only real difference between women who work in bars and women who work elsewhere, is the bar girls have built a necessary shell around their hearts. They've been hurt too many times to trust anyone completely. And trust is necessary to make a marriage work. The bar girls ALL have feelings and it takes a little time to get to know them before you begin to understand what they are going through.

By the way, Nurse made some very good posts that I agree with. So did cpofc and toybits.

I also agree. You have put down some valid, pertinent points for thought.

If those do not want to look through other eyes, then they are the loser.(my opinion only)

Quite a few years back, I lived in an apartment building not far from Patpong. The building was inhabited by girls (and guys) who worked in the bars--most were nice, some less so. The expat population was made up primarily of people who enjoyed the night life. I can't give you an exact statistic, but around 90% of them had at least one overseas boyfriend sending them money, some had two or three. Of the ones I knew, eventually well over 25% married foreigners. And there were a lot of them.

These marriages included several male co-workers that I knew. Of course, the first item of business was to 'rehabilitate' the Mrs. Invariably, they worked 'in an office on Silom.' A few of the wives who were a bit more jaded and less mentally endowed, could only be passed off as having worked in a restaurant. There were more lies, stories and spin than a government office going around. But most everyone new.

As you can see from this thread, there's a fair amount of interest, but not a lot of revealing information.

Sorry folks, but you can't make a silk purse out a sows ear. Cinderella was a fairy tale and "Pretty Woman" was just a movie. Real life is different.

My ex-bar wife now runs a 7/11. Accountancy, stock levels and man management skills are the minimum needed. She does quite well.

Pom sang satang

Good posting TMD, I'm happy for you both, good luck for the future.

Thanks Nurse, much appreciated.

TMD

Mia and I are now 2 years, 4 months together. She appeared in a bar I used to pop into and noticed her straight away as a stranger.

(Yes I am a bar frequenter, so maybe or are a low life)

Could speak very poor English but my Thai was the same.

With living in Pattaya and working offshore have seen many well paid and well educated guys lose all common sense and sense of proportions to thai females. I was terrified and amazed when I let her move into my home when I went back to work. Do 4wks on/off.

Came back all was good so took it slowly.

Cannot wish for better, go up North to her parents every 2 months for a week, always made me welcome. 19 years difference I am 53, maybe an old fool.

But happy as a sandboy. Yes you can have a success............................but, I were living here for 3+ years enjoying life as a child would in a sweetie shop. Seen many a strong man cry over these girls, whom they had met on a three week holiday. Feel sorry for them.

My view, you want success you need to learn Thai, live here, spend time at her parents farm with Thai facilities. You can do that your on the right track.

You are correct but missing one point/thing?

No longer resident for tax purposes in the UK. I have a Thai address that all goverment agencies know about and mail too.

I may not pay income tax but I do pay Nat Ins at class 1. That still entitles me to all benefits from our wonderful goverment (Whether Tory or Labour).

And here is where you are wrong......NHS care is based on RESIDENCY and NOT contributions:

What about British Nationals? I have paid taxes in the past.

Nationality or past or present payments of UK taxes and National Insurance contributions are not taken into consideration when establishing residence. The only thing relevant is whether you ordinarily live in the UK.

That was taken from the NHS site itself at:

http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Healthcare/Entitlementsandcharges/OverseasVisitors/Browsable/DH_074374

Penkoprod

Okay

Will put it another way.

Have a NT coding which means.

"Not normally resident for the purposes of taxation" Quote.

I am not normally resident for paying of tax since I work abroad and live 50% of my leave abroad other 50% (90 days a year) in the UK.

So still resident for all benefits.

Every person circumstances can be different, you may be right on never going back to the UK but I return for one week every 2 months. So entitled to all NHS benefits even after 6 years

You must be careful when applying one outcome to all scenarios.

If my original post when read could mislead, apologies

One thing i DO know is with regard to your #4

Its a case of just being out of the country for only ONE year that make you lose your entitlement to free non emergency NHS treatment

I had the actual act saved to my hard drive, but cant find it now, but there are plenty of references to it elsewhere:

"

"All patients, regardless of their status or nationality are subject to the same basic screening process and should be asked the following question about their residential status as part of the hospital registration procedure:

• Where have you lived for the last 12 months?

• Can you show that you have the right to live here?

A person who has not been living in the UK for the last 12 months is subject to the NHS (Charges to Overseas Visitors) Regulations and can therefore expect to be asked further questions such as,

• On what date did you arrive in the UK?

• What is the basis for your stay in the UK?

Patients who are unable to provide answers to these questions, or whose answers indicate that they may not be eligible for free hospital treatment should be referred to the NHS trust's Overseas Visitors Manager, who will conduct a full interview with the patient to establish whether he/she is chargeable. However, immediately necessary treatment should never be delayed or withheld because of doubts about the patient's chargeable status or his/her ability to pay."

Taken from:

http://www.shelteroffshore.com/index.php/health/more/living-abroad-medical-insurance-nhs-treatment-10272/

Penkoprod

You are correct but missing one point/thing?

No longer resident for tax purposes in the UK. I have a Thai address that all goverment agencies know about and mail too.

I may not pay income tax but I do pay Nat Ins at class 1. That still entitles me to all benefits from our wonderful goverment (Whether Tory or Labour).

1) You pay Nat ins for 30 years you get a full old age pension.

2) You can elect to pay Class 2, around £100.00 PA. You still get full oap pension and access to NHS. Except no job seekers allowance (Honest been there).

3) When you start to draw your old age pension can be fraught? Why.

A) If you live outside the EU and a few designated other countries. Amount you draw is frozen. You will not receive any increases after that date. There are some test cases being fought, one is with people living in Australia.

Best advice is to contact said people direct.

Been trying to get those Charity and residence people in Newcastle to allow me Class 2 status. But since I am classed as a Merchant Navy officer not allowed.

On another angle, I am unable to claim Merchant Navy tax benefits because HMRC class me as an offshore worker.

Charity and residence people will not allow me to pay class2 Nat Ins since they class me as Merchant Navy??

Confused

I am ex Merchant Navy now living in Thailand and working offshore in the oil industry. Do not listen to the 6 months out of the UK that does not apply now to offshore. (No more than 182 days in the UK>)

It was changed back in 1997 when the F.E.D. (Foreign Earnings Deduction) was removed from "Persons/vessels engaged in mineral extraction of the seabed" This method of claiming tax back was originally meant for the UK Merchant Navy personnel.

Anyone now who wants to avoid tax has to do the 90 day rule. For two years I satisfied HMRC with my days out of the UK. For my 3rd year recieved a NT coding. Which means "Not resident for the purposes of tax".

If you only go back the UK for 60 days each over two years you can roll that over and stay more than 90 the next. But, I would not do that since the HMRC are looking at closing that loophole.

You will get a lot of advise most of itr can be <deleted>. Tax avoidance is legal. Tax evasion is illegal.

Been living Thailand tax free for 6+ years and have no hassle from the HMRC anymore since I am still on the Radar but legit.

Phone the HMRC tell them (Honestly) what you want to do ....... they will tell you if its okay.

If you work outside the UK, do not return to the UK for more than 90 days in a year or 365 day period and you can prove that with airline stub, credit card receipts, passport entry/departing stamps you will be okay.

PM me if you want some more advise or accountants/tax firms names/phone numbers.

Nampeung, my thoughts are with you at this time.

You are quite amazing, no display of bitterness, anger or hurt at what has befallen you. You worry about your son?

My father fell ill and died within 5 weeks. Age at the time was 11, still to this day, wish I could remember him saying he loved me?

Your son is you, you will live on in him and his children, you gave him life, warm and love.

Point I am trying to make is to make him feel loved and that he is in your heart and soul forever.

We can all buy and give gifts but receiving a mothers love is the greatest gift you can give your child.

Take care

tmd

I wonder what would would happen if a Thai guy turned up at a licensing office in Europe demanding a European license with a Thai License, without any proper transaltion. !!

Another example of Farangs thinking that it's their god given right to demand and be given in Asian countries....lol.

Colonionism is long gone, deal with it !

Very good Maigo6.

Hit a nail on the head with that one.

I agree, it is their country, so their rules.

Someone young, wealthy, handsome, popular,..., who has to prove that to himself by condescending provocations on a well known public forum daily for hours has a schizophrenic anankastic personality.

Great word!  I had to look it up in the dictionary, I am embarrassed to say, but I am glad to have it in my vocabulary now!

Cannot understand why this thread continues, can only be ????

...now that's a crash.

We prefer 'uncontrolled descent' if you don't mind old bean...

Or?

"We took our eye off the ball"

"What crash, mearly part of a grand plan, my boy"

"No, No, No, not those figures those ones"

"We were expecting this turn of event"

After all the negative postings lately about Thailand I thought I would post some good things. Since first coming here several years ago I have never been arrested, ripped off, been a victim of crime or shown any great disrespect Paid the odd MIB 200 baht but done so with a smile

I have though been made very welcome in all areas of Thailand during my ride around the Kingdom. When I have broken down or run out of fuel I have never had to wait more than 5 mins for some very helpful Thai to stop and assist me. I have been fed, watered and given a room all for nothing. I hardly ever take the key out of my motorbike and when I return it is always there. A girl that I didn't know that well sat by my bed day and night for 4 days in hospital after an accident till I was better. My other half cost me nothing, has asked for nothing and her family neither ask nor expect anything other than I take care of their daughter. I live in a beautiful country and thank Buddha every day for allowing me to do so.

My quality of life here is far better than back in the UK and I will leave only when they drag me screaming and kicking onto the plane.

The next time you feel the need to post that life here in Thailand is so bad just try to remember what things were like back wherever you came from Chock dee

You have just earned my respect. I echo everything you wrote

Ditto.

Pom song satang