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Did you get the quote? If so, how much, which charger, etc? Thanks.

Below late breaking car250.com 5 Dec article can give some insight on best selling "registrations" for Nov 2024....to include registrations by models vs just by brand. A registration is a completely done deal sale with vehicle blue book issued...the person is now driving the vehicle with red tags.

Vehicle "registrations" for Nov 2024. Registration means a totally completed sale with vehicle ownership book (e.g., blue book) issued.....a done deal...driving around proudly showing-off your new red tag vehicle. See webpage below for details to included data for brand models "registered" like how many Toyota Fortuners, BYD Dolphins Honda Cities, etc., ..a lot more detail at the webpage below https://www.car250.com/th-2024-11-2.html

As many of you know Motor Expo 2024 is underway 28 Nov -10 Dec 2024...a 13 day event. Motor Expo 2023 occurred last year 29 Nov - 11 Dec 2024...also for 13 days. Below are a couple of "bookings" charts where you can compare how this year's 2024 Expo booking numbers after 4 days (i.e, thru 1 Dec) compare to last year's 2023 booking numbers day-by-day. After 4 of 13 days the 2024 Expo booking numbers stand are 11,280....and for the 2023 Expo after 4 days the bookings stood at 8,444. So, bookings after day 4 for each year the 2024 bookings are way ahead of 2023 bookings. HOWEVER, when going to this Motor Expo 2024 webpage to get the latest booking numbers which currently shows thru 3 Dec (i.e., 6 days of bookings) as of date/time of this post the 2024 booking numbers after 6 days stand at 16,272 compared to Motor Expo 2023 booking after 6 days of 16,797. So, bookings after 6 day for each year the 2024 bookings are now a little behind 2023 bookings. As you see the 2024 and 2023 charts booking numbers can vary a lot from day-to-day at these Expo events. It will be interesting to see if this year BYD over takes Honda in bookings when the Motor Expo 2024 ends and final booking numbers post. For last Motor Expo 2023 BYD held on to 2nd place for most of the event days but got barely nosed out at the event finish line by Honda. Honda ended up in 2nd place with BYD in 3rd by a mere 30 bookings. Toyota finished 1st. When looking at 2024 booking numbers after 6 days BYD is once again barely ahead of Honda....Toyota is in 1st place. Since BYD is now selling more models, to include even an HEV model, maybe this is the year BYD becomes the 2nd best selling brand at the Expo. And of course Toyota will probably maintain 1st place with its ICEV and HEV models. See charts and weblinks below for detailed info. https://autolifethailand.tv/first-4days-motor-expo-2024-bookings/ Motor Expo 2024 Booking Numbers After 4 of 13 days https://autolifethailand.tv/motor-expo-2023-booking-final/ Motor Expo 2023 Day-by-Day and "Final" Booking Numbers

That web site is only showing bookings for brands; not at a brand's individual models level. Maybe there will be more detailed reporting down to the models level by some news agency later on.

Latest Motor Expo booking stats at below weblink...booking numbers by brand thru 3 Dec as of date/time of this post. Weblink usually updates daily. https://www.motorexpo.co.th/bestselling/

Here's an example of the KW usage while idling in traffic on a cloudy 30C day when the AC did not have to work that hard....car dashboard shows 1KW being used but OBD data shows it's really 1.89KW...durn near 2KW. See circled numbers.

I agree with above approx estimates. I have used OBD2 data (i.e., an OBD2 reader with OBD app) to monitor various metrics on my BYD Atto Extended range with 60.5KW battery. With OBD data you can usually measure some metrics to greater accuracy than what is displayed on the car's digital dashboard/infotainment displays. Like power usage can be measured to two decimal points vs just a whole number. Like power usage (i.e., KW) as you drive along. On the Atto (and I expect all BYD EVs) the amount of KW being used as you drive along, set/stuck in traffic, etc., is only displayed as a "whole" number....like 0KW, 1KW, 2KW, 20KW, 30KW, etc....no decimal point readout. While only displaying to a whole number is all that needed to quickly & easily display approximate power usage for everyday driving if you need/want to know how much power you are really using like when stuck in traffic/idling in hot weather where the dashboard is showing low power usage (i.e., like only a 1 or 2KW) "and" you are really low on battery then only a whole number power usage readout can be deceiving. By "deceiving" I mean you could be using almost twice as much KW when stuck in traffic/idling than what is being displayed on the card dashboard because of the way the BYD system "rounds" to the newest whole number for power usage. Whether actually using 1KW or 1.99KW the car's dashboard will display display 1KW although you could actually being using 1.99KW which is twice the power. If the dashboard is displaying 2KW it could really be as high a 2.99KW actually being used. If it's not too hot of day, you are running the A/C but the car is already cooled down to where the electric AC compressor is no longer running loud & hard and say you are idling/stuck in a traffic jam wondering if you ever get to where you are going, your dashboard could be displaying 0 (zero) KW usage....but actually you could be using 0.99KW. If the dashboard is displaying 1KW you could actually be using 1KW to 1.99KW.....if displaying 2KW you could actually be using 2KW to 2.99KW, etc. What I have found in my OBD data monitoring which reports two decimal point of KW being used (or regenerated) when the Atto is running with no A/C or fan, repeat, off, then the car is really using approx 0.3KW (300 watts). And the running lights only using approx 0.04KW (40 watts) of that 0.3KW. So turning off your running lights to save a little power won't really help much to decease battery usage. Low beam headlights use approx 0.08KW (80 watts) and high bean approx 0.120KW (120 watts). All measured using OBD2 data which reports power usage to two decimal points vs just a whole number. And as nice to know, when you are braking and regenerating KW when the display is say showing a minus 7KW being generated it will really be between a -7 to -7.99KW,....say, -1KW is displaying then it's really -1 to -1.99KW. Just the way BYD rounds and displays power usage/regeneration. So, knowing how BYD vehicles "rounds the display for KW being used/regenerated" if I was stuck in traffic with say 10% battery SOC (which would be around 6KW of my Atto's 60KW battery), A/C turned on to cool of my "hot-under-the-collar attitude due to the traffic jam, headlights even turned on, and the dashboard showing 1KW power usage (which could really be as high as 1.99KW), I know I could really set idling in that traffic jam without moving an inch for at least 3 hours if really using 1.99KW. And if It was really using 1KW then around 6 hours...but it's best to round-up to the next whole KW number to play it safe. Roll the windows down and just turn the A/C and fan off to where the car is only drawing 0.3KW (300 watts) and I could idle in that daytime traffic jam for 20 hours before the battery hit 0% SoC. Yeap, if getting stuck in a traffic jam and running out of juice then you have really let your battery get way, way too low before you started your trip.....you are gambling on smooth traffic the whole way....just blame yourself. Gosh, about the only time I let my Atto drop below 25% SoC is when I have decided to run it down to 10% or below followed by a charge to 100% for the battery BMS recalibration that BYD recommends be done every 3 to 6 months to keep your SoC display accurate.

If the uncertainty is that great and you really don't drive that much now, just stick with a used vehicle....probably an used ICEV.

There will always be new EV batteries coming out that will be hyped as a BIG improvement but in the real world they will simply be minor/significant improvements. If a person continues to wait for the next big improved EV battery they will probably never buy an EV because they will always be waiting. That's what Mr. Toyota wants.

It seems difficult to you right now (just like when first learning to ride a bike), but after the light blub comes on in your brain (i.e., wow, I understand now) you'll think to yourself "why did I think this was hard to figure out" because it's not really hard at all/turned out to be not really hard at all like you thought it might.

See...finding out your home had three phase power made all the difference. And I recommend you keep in simple with your wall charger...like one that does not use/need an app to operate it. Just need a RFID card you wave in front of it to turn it off and on for charging. A lot of the fancy chargers are just way too expensive....keep it simple...it will also cost you a lot less.

Yes, these types of "zoomed out" maps for all of Thailand or a highly populated areas can give the impression chargers are every couple kilometers (or closer)...almost like 7-11's all over the place even in rural areas. BUT when you start zooming out vs using a zoomed-out satellite type view you will see big gaps in many places, especially rural areas, where the closest charger is tens of kilometers (or more) away and it's simply out-of-your-way to use or when you get there you find out it's occupied or non-operational. Don't get me wrong, Thailand overall has a LOT of chargers but there are many areas where there are not any, not nearly enough, etc. But if you are just looking for a charger while going on long trips on major highways there are many chargers along those major highways.

They are right....there are MANY rural areas that don't have enough chargers. Yes, there will be chargers on "major" highways that go thru rural areas but the rural areas need many more chargers but I don't think that will occur until there are quite a few more EVs and affordable EV "pickup" trucks became available in Thailand.

As of early morning 3 Dec the new PTT EV Station Pluz charging app is operational. Their old app can still be opened but no charger locations appear making the app non-opreational/useless. So, if you use the PTT charging network you will need to install and register on their new app. Even customers who were registered on the old app need to re-register....your old registration on the old app does not carry over to the new app. See above posts for more details.

Vehicle "booking" stats 28 Nov - 1 Dec for the ongoing Motor Expo 2024 running from 28/29 Nov - 10 Dec 2024 https://www.motorexpo.co.th/bestselling/ Best Selling Cars 2024 Best Selling Cars 2024 Brand 28/11 29/11 30/11 1/12 2/12 3/12 4/12 5/12 6/12 7/12 8/12 9/12 10/12 TOTAL 28/11 29/11 30/11 1/12 2/12 3/12 4/12 5/12 6/12 7/12 8/12 9/12 10/12 TOTAL TOTAL 309 1,694 4,504 4,773 - - - - - - - - - 11,280 AION - 117 200 217 - - - - - - - - - 534 AUDI 7 8 11 8 - - - - - - - - - 34 AVATR - - 28 26 - - - - - - - - - 54 BMW 57 49 93 107 - - - - - - - - - 306 BYD * 42 256 425 470 - - - - - - - - - 1,193 BYD COMMERCIAL VEHICLES * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DEEPAL - 108 154 159 - - - - - - - - - 421 DENZA * 8 58 40 39 - - - - - - - - - 145 FORD - 42 110 108 - - - - - - - - - 260 FOTON - - - - - - - - - - - - - - GEELY - 25 51 61 - - - - - - - - - 137 GWM - 46 104 86 - - - - - - - - - 236 HONDA 32 94 475 513 - - - - - - - - - 1,114 HYUNDAI 9 18 30 73 - - - - - - - - - 130 ISUZU - 36 188 213 - - - - - - - - - 437 JEEP - - - - - - - - - - - - - - JUNEYAO - - - - - - - - - - - - - - KIA 5 9 27 26 - - - - - - - - - 67 KING LONG - - - - - - - - - - - - - - LEAPMOTOR - 8 8 10 - - - - - - - - - 26 LEXUS 3 4 4 5 - - - - - - - - - 16 LOTUS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MASERATI - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MAZDA - 62 182 190 - - - - - - - - - 434 MERCEDES-BENZ - 125 90 65 - - - - - - - - - 280 MG - 136 224 246 - - - - - - - - - 606 MINI 8 5 20 22 - - - - - - - - - 55 MITSUBISHI - 20 325 270 - - - - - - - - - 615 NETA 4 29 208 269 - - - - - - - - - 510 NISSAN - 38 150 175 - - - - - - - - - 363 OMODA JAECOO - - 95 98 - - - - - - - - - 193 PEUGEOT - - 1 - - - - - - - - - - 1 POCCO - - - - - - - - - - - - - - PORSCHE 4 5 7 14 - - - - - - - - - 30 RIDDARA - - 30 69 - - - - - - - - - 99 SUZUKI - 2 19 30 - - - - - - - - - 51 TESLA * - 14 37 27 - - - - - - - - - 78 TOYOTA 127 262 910 950 - - - - - - - - - 2,249 VOLVO - 18 12 17 - - - - - - - - - 47 WULING 3 12 11 15 - - - - - - - - - 41 XPENG - - 66 69 - - - - - - - - - 135 ZEEKR - 88 169 119 - - - - - - - - - 376 BRG - - - 7 - - - - - - - - - 7 Note: These are the numbers reported by the car companies. * These are the numbers calculated from the Buy a Car…Win a Car program. Best Selling Motorcycles 2024 Brand 28/11 29/11 30/11 1/12 2/12 3/12 4/12 5/12 6/12 7/12 8/12 9/12 10/12 TOTAL 28/11 29/11 30/11 1/12 2/12 3/12 4/12 5/12 6/12 7/12 8/12 9/12 10/12 TOTAL TOTAL 51 221 644 656 - - - - - - - - - 1,572 AJ EV 3 22 6 19 - - - - - - - - - 50 ALPHA VOLANTIS - 12 17 18 - - - - - - - - - 47 BMW MOTORRAD 9 5 12 12 - - - - - - - - - 38 DECO - 3 26 3 - - - - - - - - - 32 EM 10 37 67 74 - - - - - - - - - 188 FELO 1 2 7 8 - - - - - - - - - 18 HANWAY - - - 1 - - - - - - - - - 1 HARLEY-DAVIDSON 7 13 8 11 - - - - - - - - - 39 HONDA ** - 6 20 45 - - - - - - - - - 71 KAWASAKI 2 4 8 12 - - - - - - - - - 26 LAMBRETTA ** 2 - 6 4 - - - - - - - - - 12 NIU - - - 1 - - - - - - - - - 1 RAPID 1 4 23 15 - - - - - - - - - 43 ROYAL ALLOY - 4 13 9 - - - - - - - - - 26 ROYAL ENFIELD 6 15 34 29 - - - - - - - - - 84 SOLAR - 21 26 29 - - - - - - - - - 76 STROM 3 10 10 15 - - - - - - - - - 38 SUZUKI 3 6 20 15 - - - - - - - - - 44 TRIUMPH 4 11 28 23 - - - - - - - - - 66 YAMAHA - 46 83 88 - - - - - - - - - 217 ZEEHO - - 7 6 - - - - - - - - - 13 ZONTES - - 223 219 - - - - - - - - - 442 Note: These are the numbers reported by the motorcycle company. ** These are the numbers calculated from the list of Buying a motorcycle…Win a big bike.

@Yodarapper "If", repeat, if PEA recent policy change regarding getting a 2nd meter did not override below PEA guidance (date mid 2022) and since it appears you have a three phase 15/45A system then condition number 2 would apply to you. PEA has always allowed a 2nd meter in those cases where the home owner justifies the current system can not be improved/upgraded for various reasons (such as cost) and then you could get a 2nd meter. Go to below PEA weblink for more info...it's in Thai. The snapshot below I google translated. https://www.pea.co.th/ข่าวสารประกาศ/ข่าวประชาสัมพันธ์/ArtMID/542/ArticleID/150315/PEA-แนะนำเตรียมตัวก่อนติดตั้ง-EV-Charger The Provincial Electricity Authority (PEA) recommends preparation before installing an EV Charger for residential homes or small businesses that do not have commercial purposes by checking the meter size, main wire size, main circuit breaker size and circuit breakers of the sub-circuits to see if they are sufficient to install an additional EV Charger. If the original electrical system is insufficient, you can choose to proceed as follows: 1. Request to increase the size of the original meter and improve the electrical system within the home to support the EV Charger. 2. Request to install a second meter if the original electrical system within the home cannot be improved.

Speaking of charging apps as of 2 Dec 2024 at 7pm till next morning on 3 Dec at 8am the PTT charging network (which is probably the most used DC Fast Charger used network in Thailand) is transitioning from their old app to their new app at time of this post a little after 7pm. And when I opened the old app a few minutes ago it no longer shows any chargers...basically unusable. And when trying to open the new app it gives the notice of being under maintenance/not active until 3 Dec at 8am. See below post for more info.

@Yodarapper And if you wondering what the 15(45)A rating really means it means it's a 45A meter/service (it can handle 45A) with the 15A just meaning that will probably be its typically operating amperage...how much a person "typically" draws. 15A is also a key "calibration" point for the meter whenever they are tested/calibrated. Another example is a 30(100)A meter rating....that means it's a 100A meter (it can handle 100A) and uses 30A as the typical operating amperage/key calibration point. Just the way many meters are rated.

Those are three phase meters, specifically 15(45)A meters. Based on your earlier posts from other people in your moobaan you mostly likely have a three phase main circuit box which means you have "three" 45A lines going to it. If you can get a wall charger installed on one of those three incoming lines you should be good to go although the charger installer might have to "balance" the three incoming lines....by balance I mean move some circuit breakers feeding some circuits in your house "off" the phase to be used for the charger and moved to the other two phases "if possible." Now whether a installer under contract with a EV dealership like BYD will do that or not is unknown....you would have to ask them as the contracted installers seem to avoid "complicated" installations where they also need to mess around with circuit/breakers feeding the rest of your home. You may need to get your own installer. What you should do is go back to the installer that said you will need a second circuit/meter with your new found info to clarify to him you have a "three phase 15(45A) system" and see what he says. He might have been assuming your had a single phase 60A system before which would need a second meter/circuit under the charger rules they have to follow.

Below 1 Dec 2024 car250.com article on the Sealion 7 may help clarify BYD 800V architecture. Two different 800V types: (1) e-Platform 3.0 (2) e-Platform 3.0 EVO. While both are 800V systems the e-Platform 3.0 version has a max charge rate of around 150KW and the E-Platform 3.0 EVO has a max rate of around around 230KW. The article says Thailand currently gets the e-Platform 3.0 version (i.e., 150KW max) while some other countries get the e-Platform 3.0 EVO version (i.e., 230KW). https://www.car250.com/new-e-platform-3-0-evo.html

The govt will just slip/adjust/update the annual thresholds between now and 2030 to where no one pays any fines. But probably "for now" maintain the 2030 date for no more new ICEVs...the govt will wait till 2029 before slipping/adjusting/updating that 2030 date.

Well, when they say 400V and 800V architecture that is a "nominal" type name. A 400V system can have a voltage range a 100 or so volts lower than 400V and even several hundred volts higher. Pretty much ditto for an 800V architecture system....several hundred volts below and above the 800V "nominal" value. And a key point is are we talking a 2024 Seal model or a 2025 Seal model....ditto for the Sealion. But it seems if the charging rate spec is 150KW max then it's still a 400V system; if 240KW then it's a 800V system.

Whoops...I just noticed an error on my part...if you do have 3 phase power and based on your 60A circuit breaker your 3 phase meter is probably going to be a 30(100)A meter but the home builder ran smaller wire from the meter to your home only only rated for probably around 60-80A per phase. It just hard to figure out your situation without seeing the meter and the inside of your circuit box, Have a charger installer take a look.

Well, if above posters are correct and based on the picture of your main circuit box you provider earlier your home probably has three phase power vs single phase. So, you probably have three 45A lines coming into your main breaker box with a total amperage allowed across the three phases of of 60A...but the way three phases works each phase could possibly allow 45A. And where the one poster said the "....and balanced the phase..." he saying the charger installer rearranged some of the circuit breakers in the main box to ensure the wall charger to dedicated to "one" of the 45A phases coming in. But if your house does indeed have 3 phase power then you may be good-to-go, but the installer you sent the picture to below thinks you only have single phase power. You need to have a wall charger installer actually look at your current electrical setup.