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from the BBC news Tuesday 09 March 2024. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-68730994

Though Hamas started this particular phase the actual war and fighting over Israel and Palestine has been going on since the 1930's and probably longer than that. Certainly much longer than Hamas has been around. Before Hamas was up and running there was Yasser Arafat who BTW was the President of Palestine from 1994 to 2004. He was also Chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organisation from 1969 too 2004 and President of the Palestine National Authority from 1994 to 2004. There is a lot of history about the region going back centuries if you want to take the time to look for it. So, NO the conflict did NOT start on October 7th 2023 as many would wish to believe, Nor did it start in 1948 when the US declared that some of the land where Israel stands should be given to Israel. Did you know that Irgun and the Stern Gang were proscribed as terrorist organisations as was Likud, Netanyahu's political party before and after WW2?

I am sure that there is a misunderstanding. quote ""Going by your twisted discriminatory logic, one might also wonder why 1% bearded big nose people with sideburns and stupid hats control 90% of the world's money and media." I am sure that I am misunderstanding your twisted discriminatory logic when I ask what your words have to with the topic at hand? Can you explain the connection between 7 foreigner's who were deliberately targeted and murdered by the IDF and your post? Nobody else except you seems to have brought this up, and then you wonder why there are misunderstandings.

Perhaps they came in as refugees from the civil war. hopefully they were unarmed an had no war weapons with them.

Of course it can. Take for example the missile launch from the UK submarine which spectacularly failed or the space rocket failures. In the UK and Germany even nowadays people keep finding live explosive from WW2 which can still kill after 80 years. But things like that are still happening with modern weapons, though hopefully less often.

i still am a reasonable person in many other threads, but the senseless slaughter from both sides has gone on endlessly for months and only a few people seem to protest about the needless deaths on both sides Most of the time when I write any post on any subject, I get a redline under mis-spelt or mis-grammared words and I assume that everybody does. I usually go back and correct the error. Then before I post I read it again for mistakes and then I post. This is usually the point that I see another mistake but by then I have to let it run before I can edit the post. Your missing question mark changed the meaning of your post for me which triggered my response. And, yes, the ravages of old age are getting to me on threads like this.

But that was about 80 years ago when missile and bomb accuracy was in its infancy. I have just read an interesting article about the much vaunted Norden bombsight. Its claim to fame was that it could hit a pickle barrel from 20,000 feet. In reality the average error was abound 300 feet. https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/the-norden-bombsight-was-it-truly-accurate-beyond-belief/ During the Gulf War, Coalition forces dropped some 17,000 precision-guided munitions with mostly pinpoint accuracy, but also 210,000 conventional bombs that missed their targets by an average of more than 300 feet, faring no better than many World War II-era bombs. It was only with the advent of guided munitions that pinpoint accuracy has been achieved. Nowadays when a skilled operator can put a missile into the roof of a car, WHY is there a need to destroy a whole building, killing, wounding and burying alive so many innocent people? They should be able to even pick which window to put the missile through, rather than destroy the complete building, unless they are ordered to do it by their leaders, The defence of "I was just following orders" was demolished during the Nuremburg trials of the 1940's and 1050's.

From what I have read in the BKK Post, they escaped, but they also deserted and abandoned their own troops. If it were up to me, I would have never allowed the generals, officers and SNCOs to enter the country in the first place. The family members, yes, but they should be treated as the ordinary citizens are and stuck in a refugee camp for years.

So destroying a whole building because some soldier 'thinks' there is a terrorist in one apartment is a legal act of war. I, personally don't think that there is ANY justification for it and it seems more and more people agree with me. Most of the problems that Israel is facing nowadays can be traced back to Netanyahu and his personally selected and hand picked ;war' cabinet. There are now thousands of Israelis even in Israel itself protesting about him.

If you are anti executioner please tell us who has killed 32,xxx men, women and children, who has laid waste to vast areas of Gaza with air to ground missiles, helicopter gunships, drones, smart and dumb bombs, tanks, armoured bulldozers etc. I had no idea that Hamas even had an airforce let alone, drones, tanks and armoured bulldozers.

You always seem to find an excuse, wrong words, missing question mark, but never seem to answer the questions.

Thank you for an extremely well written article. I agree with every word.

Really? You are 100% certain of that, and have the evidence to prove it? Then it should be easy for you to prove it. Just produce the evidence. The IDF and the Israeli government desperately need that 100% verified evidence.

That is why the IDF can destroy 3 separate vehicles with pinpoint accuracy but have to destroy any building that they "think" might have Hamas fighters in, and killing innocent men, women and children as "collateral damage".

Are you part of my family? Please don't tell me how, when or what I can post. You can respond as many times as you wish, but I can't be bothered to answer your posts anymore. You are not worth wasting my time on.

I tried making apple turnovers today but after fighting the home made flaky pastry for nearly 3 hours I gave up and dumped it in the bin. The shredded apple I carefully put in the only plastic bag with a hole in it. I quickly put that bag in another and chucked it in the freezer. I think that the kitchen god was not happy today. I will get hold of some frozen puff and/or flaky pastry from Makro next time I am up there.

I don't water the land (15 rai) any more. I figure that nature is a lot smarter than me and made preparations decades ago. I do have a big water flower bowl which I keep filled for the dogs, cat, birds etc.

Have you reported all these Jew hating posts (including mine) to the moderators to see if they are correct or not? And if the moderators agree they are OK posts, will you accept their decision?

I gave a +1 to a post. I have given +1 to many posts. What is your problem with this particular post? If, having read my post, you still do not understand, then YOU are part of the problem

Actually WE, the plural don't all KNOW that. what we have is your biased word and that of other biased posters. So far, very few people away from agree with your point of view, but nobody KNOWS the real casualty figures as many innocent men, women and children are still buried in the rubble and the IDF will not allow rescue workers in to search the wreckage. Nor will the IDF allow independent news reporters access to those areas either. AFAICS either the IDF is telling the truth and Hamas is telling lies, OR the IDF is telling lies and Hamas is telling the truth, OR they are both telling the truth (as they see it) but spinning the story in their own favour, OR both are telling lies. Personally I prefer to believe none of the stories but if I had to I would choose option #3, they are both telling the truth (as they see it) but spinning the story in their own favour.

That was me, and perhaps you should do a little research before spreading lies about me. I am NOT a Jew hater NOR am I a terrorist supporter which another poster attributed to me. What I am, is a person who cannot understand why some people seem to support the mass slaughter, murder and genocide. By not opposing mass slaughter, murder and genocide, you seem to be one such person.

Well according to the BBC the IDF enquiry results are in and published. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68742572 The IDF's investigation concluded that the army unit involved had believed the vehicles they were tracking from the sky had been taken over by Hamas gunmen, and that they were not aware of the coordination procedures put in place between the military and World Central Kitchen for that evening. It also said they also did not know the cars belonged to the charity, and the three air strikes were in violation of the army's own procedures. The evidence from the investigation has been passed to the Military Advocate General - the Israeli army's top legal authority - to determine if there has been any criminal conduct. In addition, the army has sacked the major in charge of fire support. The brigade's chief of staff, a colonel, has also been sacked. The divisional commander, brigade commander and the general in charge of the IDF's Southern Command have been formally reprimanded. Every poster can make their own mind up how true this is. IF it is true, then it shows what a shambles the IDF with no information passing up or down the chain of command. IF it is not true then it simply shows what a shambles the IDF is. Worse than Fred Karno's army. Personally, I believe the second. For those who have no idea who Fred Karno was, look here. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fred+karno's+army+meaning&sca_esv=6702d8133b3a2eb3&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ACQVn09oniZ_XddAjwaKFYpP_p5zOcWfVg%3A1712474670933&source=hp&ei=LkoSZujnNoKQnesPztS20Aw&iflsig=ANes7DEAAAAAZhJYPgaSF9v-U0N8WrE-7jzP6T-sht1t&oq=fred+Karno'&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IgtmcmVkIEthcm5vJyoCCAEyCBAuGNQCGIAEMgUQABiABDIFEAAYgAQyBRAAGIAEMgUQABiABDIIEC4YgAQY1AIyBhAAGBYYHjIGEAAYFhgeMgYQABgWGB4yBhAAGBYYHkjEjQFQAFjCZ3AAeACQAQCYAXygAbwIqgEDOC4zuAEByAEA-AEBmAILoAK0CcICChAjGIAEGIoFGCfCAhEQLhiDARjHARixAxjRAxiABMICCxAuGIMBGLEDGIAEwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAg4QLhiABBixAxjHARjRA8ICCBAAGIAEGLEDwgIEECMYJ8ICCBAuGIAEGLEDwgILEC4YgAQYsQMYgwHCAgUQLhiABMICCxAuGIAEGMcBGNEDwgIHEAAYgAQYCsICCxAuGIAEGMcBGK8BmAMAkgcDMi45oAe_mwE&sclient=gws-wiz A type of chaotic organization, named for the comedian Fred Karno (1866–1941); his 'Army' was the company which gave a solid start or valuable experience to many comedians. 'We are Fred Karno's army, the ragtime infantry', perhaps referring to 'Kitchener's Army', was one of the trench songs of the First World War.

To be honest, did you expect anything different, especially the real independent truth from anywhere controlled by Israel or the IDF. The sad thing is that there are people, even here on ANN, that believe every word that comes from the Israeli government or the IDF is the pure unvarnished truth.

I did make my assessment. I chose Wise back in 2018 and I have never regretted it at all.

And the Bangkok Post had this story yesterday, with the government furiously back pedalling and saying that the water splashing is for 3 DAYS only, and NOT for the much vaunted 3 WEEKS of the festival.