thaibeachlovers

I doubt we can ever "find ourself" as life is constantly changing us. IMO the best we can do is to come to terms with the fact that life is not perfect and we are likewise.

It's funny but I thought sex was part of a long term relationship and not something one had to negotiate before marriage. It's so important that one isn't married unless the marriage is consummated. No nookie can get marriage annulled. Fact of life that most men want sex. Women that get married and deny sex are not fulfilling their side of the relationship. End of.

I doubt most women stop after 30 years, but a lot sooner, like 25 years or less. In my case the first partner stopped after 1 year and my wife after 2 years. I left both. After the first attrocity it was better not having a GF at all and using P4P. For the second attrocity, I should have known better and not got married at all. I admit it I was stupid and let the little head give me illusions of sex on tap the rest of my life. I learned that lesson well, for sure.

World is so overpopulated that I doubt any island that can support life is "deserted" any more. Best bet is some remote place in a country one can live in legally long time. Plenty of such in LOS. Some of the Gulf coast has few people living on it.

Cheaper than western countries and I always hated going to immigration; so much so that I paid an agent to do it for me. Never had a problem with the cops but only because I did nothing for them to notice me.

There's something that all those guys with "nothing to do" can do. Learn to cook- make the breakfast, lunch and dinner.

A lot of American movies have husbands that get it so rarely that when she indicates he can tonight he lights up like a lighthouse bulb. While movies are not real life, they often have some basis in reality.

Don't understand how any guy with a modicum of energy can "do nothing". I was retired in LOS and never had "nothing to do". Up to the guy I guess, but don't bitch about "nothing to do" when there is a world of things to do in LOS and many of them cost little to nothing to do.

Do you not believe that sex ( at least for men ) is something that should be part of a long term relationship? Why else would most men get married?

Disagree. Much of my working life was unpleasant, and it was always under coercive control. So what if the wife doesn't get much if anything from sex? As long as it's not injurious to the woman, if she is going to get married she owes it to her husband to at the very least lie there while he does his thing. Anyway, if he isn't doing it right for her she owes it to herself to explain what she wants to her husband. Seems to me too many women use sex in marriage to get what they want, rather than recognising it is part and parcel of marriage. Don't want to do it, don't lie to your husband to be when making those vows. However, seems many don't believe their marriage vows when they promise "till death do us part". Liars all that get divorced when they had a religious marriage ceremony.. I doubt many men got married not expecting sex.

Re "speaking to professionals" you do know that they cost biggly, and unless rich, rich, rich are not an option, unless living in a Utopian country where the taxpayers funds such? The NHS used to fund such, but only for a limited time, which may not be long enough to make a difference. Do you actually have friends that would let you tell them all your problems? IMO most would cease to be friends if they had that sort of thing put on them, and even if they did allow it, what solutions could untrained folk offer? As for relatives, I don't know any that I would want to unload on even if they allowed it. Not all relatives are caring people.

"God does not seem to be very busy" Do you think planet earth is the only one with life on it? How about the other billions of planets in the universe that probably have life forms on them requiring some attention as well?

My parents divorced in 1970. Frankly, given the way the law favours women in western countries, I don't understand why guys get married, unless they have no significant assets. A lot of men did avoid getting married and that was countered when the law became that anyone living together longer than 2 or 3 years ( can't remember which off hand ) was legally regarded as being married, and liable to the same asset stripping as for actually married men. Just wait till sex androids are affordable and see how many men still get attached to real women. I fully expect laws will be brought in to ban them. Any guy that thinks they have a perfect marriage should watch Eat Pray Love ( Julia Roberts ). I actually know a woman that divorced her husband because he was boring. So much for no fault divorce.

Silly thing to say. My world for over 30 years was Thailand and I wanted to live there till I died. Losing my money to the wrong woman meant I had to leave Thailand that I loved and exist in a cold country. So, for me it was the end of the world.

That gives you 4 months before burning season starts.

We should bear in mind that "death do us part" was invented when many men didn't live long lives.

I discovered TVF long before I got married, but I'd never read the divorce sub forum. Had I done so before getting married my life would be very different today.

To be fair, marriage has a 50/ 50 chance of failure. That's not good odds.

I wish more farangs were like you, then we wouldn't have a forum full of farangs that got suckered by Thai women into marrying them, giving them a load of land, houses and cars etc, and then losing everything.

Umm, that's not actually accurate to what the post you replied to said ( "If you take a decent hard working woman away from her job it's only fair to compensate her." ) . Bar fines are paid to compensate the bar owner for losing a worker, not to compensate the girl. She has to get the client to pay her for her time.

IMO it's relevant because many guys that married Thai women are buying the relationship with property. If it was true love, money wouldn't even come into it.

Being in a long term relationship or being married didn't guarantee that my partners had any concern for me in the long run. I guess that applies in the 50% or so of married couples that get divorced as well.

I don't know what Thailand you are referring to, but in the LOS I know one can rent by the day, the week or the month.

Shallow worked for me. The sex was far better with Thai rentals than with my first partner, and sex with my wife was far better before we got married than after ( she seemed to lose interest once the paper was signed- funny that ). Soooo, from my limited experience, if one wants good sex, don't get married. If sex is uneventful, IMO that's down to the individuals involved, and if renting one can keep trying a new rental till one finds the right one to keep till the rental gets too complacent.

Out of all the people I know that got married, only two couples didn't get divorced.