rubl

I have no brief for the Cambodians or their thuggish leader, Hun Sen.

However no amount of distraction from the small band of military cheerleaders can avoid the truth that Thailand has been internationally shamed by its military and weak government.

Shamed? Military? Weak government? Could you elaborate a wee bit? The three bullets on your overhead sheet do need some explanation, my dear chap

From the WallStreetJournal 2011-04-26:

"Fighting over the disputed territory surrounding the Preah Vihear Temple along the Thai-Cambodia border resumed last Friday, with both sides trading artillery fire and accusations of targeting civilian villages throughout the weekend. The Associated Press reports 12 soldiers confirmed dead."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704677404576284680471555442.html

Our legal protector Robert Amsterdam seems to have learned some from k. Thaksin. Recently he held a one-person dialogue

"Red Shirt lawyer held a one-person dialogue in Kuala Lumpur after cancellation of an event"

http://www.prachatai3.info/english/node/2442

In a truly democratic fashion our esteemed Lord and Master k. Thaksin has banned two incumbent MPs. They have been found guilty of suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election. They may count their blessings, our Lord and Master is benevolent as ever and not out for revenge, they will not loose their lives.

Hail all.

Please note that a political party is allowed to decide which candidates will be allowed to represent the party. These gentlemen are not banned from running for office should they so desire. They can run for any party they want.

A political party indeed has the freedom to select who of it's members may stand as candidate and who not. In normal parties that's a democratic process, with discussions, voting, and the like. With PTP their slogan is proven again to be true 'k. Thaksin thinks, PTP does'

The two members barred from standing candidate for PTP may indeed resign and join another party and stand as candidate for that other party. I'm not sure what the limitations are, how long does a member have to be member in order to be able to stand as candidate?

In a truly democratic fashion our esteemed Lord and Master k. Thaksin has banned two incumbent MPs. They have been found guilty of suspected of planning to defect from the party in the upcoming general election. They may count their blessings, our Lord and Master is benevolent as ever and not out for revenge, they will not loose their lives.

Hail all.

As the EC is a bit busy right now (new elections you know) I expect a verdict about the Thaksin video speech and it's possible breach of election laws only AFTER the elections

now Rubi that really is inspired thinking.......

Too much honour. I merely bought new batteries for my crystal ball

Pantagruell? Alberich? Kyger Litor? Jaette? Huldra?

Literary minded, aren't we? I had to look some up, here's the list as foar as I can tell. Read and learn, ye'all

The Life of Gargantua and of Pantagruel (in French, La vie de Gargantua et de Pantagruel) is a connected series of five novels written in the 16th century by François Rabelais.

Alberich was a legendary sorcerer who originated in the mythology or epic sagas of the Frankish Merovingian Dynasty of the 5th to 8th century AD, and whose name means king of the elves

Kyger Litor from a role-playing game about the people of Uz on Glorantha

jätte - giant; a mythical human of very great size, Odin was one

Huldra - Lady of the Forest, Scandinavian folklore

I'm truly confounded towards those whom haven't a clue regarding history of any sort, less confined to a particular world regional historical matter. Redundant and perpetually indoctrinated historical models tend to shed a reflective pattern of how folks are easily taken in by the historiographical establishment and convention......

Nice statement! Can you do this again, but with less ideology and words of two or less syllables so that us lesser mortals might at least try to grasp what it is you are trying to say ?

General Chaiyasit Shinawatra said the party's policies were initiated by Thaksin and are practical. "When Thaksin was prime minister, he traveled to different regions and stayed with people so he knew their problems and found solutions to them," he said.

A PM who stayed with people? People like other PMs, major officials and the like? He knows their problems, he got the same: how to avoid paying tax amongst others

Well now you've got that off your chest....................I will divulge a little personal detail.......which you may have perceived already.......I don't subscribe to, or follow the herd.......too busy being me .............and another thing............even I don't always agree 100% with what I say.........perhaps that is what makes me different.......not a regular Joe but a unique Geo..

No offence, but buy a mirror. Makes it easier to debate the things you say and don't agree with. I know, I've got one already

Hope he does return very soon. Then Thailand can finally resume its long march towards prosperity. If you rely on the biased Western media, as I did initially, you can come away with a negative impression of Thaksin's impact on Thailand. But for the past 6 months I have had a new Thai girlfriend, now my fiancee, a lawyer who has brought to my attention the many improvements and reforms that occurred in Thailand under Thaksin's rule. She has also pointed out that his alleged 'misappropriation' of public money is lies fabricated by his opponents. Thaksin is the way forward for this country. Hopefully when he returns, Thailand will complete its transformation from developing to developed nation.

At first I was not sure of your persuasion, then I noted you said girlfriend. What you are being told sounds like another Thaksin mouthpiece talking. She undoubtedly is not a tax lawyer nor very knowledgeable in accounting or she could add up what funds have been frozen, forfeited, traced and identified by western banking systems, spent, spending etc and see the folly of her indoctrination/brainwashing of you.

Some members choose very appropriate member names. Dear member falangbaa seems to be one of them. Mind you he's already on his (at least) second Thai girlfriend, fiancee now, lawyer with strong opinions to boot as well. Well I assume falangbaa will be able to tell us all about those 'improvements under k. Thaksin's RULE'. Don't bother with the 'misappropriation of public money', I / we know all about those already

Who is the present Thai Government...the red shirt, yellow shirt, no man, the army set up the Democrats as government...so tne ARMY is the government, they and the Democrats are cohorts.

You can't call the army a swine, probably some draconian charges would be on you, but you can called a swine, the army ...

You forgot to mention IMHO, although with your style it would probably be IMO.

The two websites you link to are not exactly news sources. More like extremely biased amateur Khmer blogs. One hasn't even updated the news section since february.. If you look at actual Khmer newspapers they cover this all day every day.

Kampuchea Thmey Newspaper

Koh Santepheap Daily Newspaper

Then there's the country's biggest English speaking newspaper

The Phnom Penh Post

It's a Monday-Friday paper, so they're not big on updating the online version on the weekends, but they did report the skirmish on Friday.

Thanks for the links, I'll have a look.

BTW as I indicated the two I quoted I got thanks to Oberkommando. I'm really surprised to see them described as 'extremely biased amateur Khmer'. Who would have thought

As the EC is a bit busy right now (new elections you know) I expect a verdict about the Thaksin video speech and it's possible breach of election laws only AFTER the elections

Mmmmm...very very clever you are UR...

Yes, it is very possible scenario and would be extremely explosive situation, if so.

Yes, after the victory, to eliminate results of election and to go again but without PTP as they would be eliminate based on this violation. Intelligent.

But again, one thing is missing for that scenario.

We don't have anywhere in their Law about responsibility of Party. I couldn't see anywhere in law is told the Party will be dissolved in that case. At least, i could not find anything about it. Any one can help about?

Don't be obtuse, young master Step. Let me spell it out one more time:

A verdict now or later will be regarding the individual called k. Thaksin S. NOT regarding his party PTP. Speculation regarding a dissolution of PTP because of the video speech seems just that: speculation. Please remind me again AFTER the elections. Thanks

Probably because he said it was unlikely the PTP might be dissolved referring to article 97 and it's details

Thanks Uncle Rubl for try to clarify this.

Still i think in Article 97 is no any word about responsibility of Party, or penalties for the same body.

Law is an exact science and should be clearly and precisely defined about this things.

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Just BECAUSE article 97 doesn't mention the party, but only the perpetrator it's unlikely PTP will be dissolved because of k. Thaksin's video speech.

As for 'law is an exact science', don't try to make me laugh, young master Step. You may want to have a discussion about law with Robert Amsterdam

As the EC is a bit busy right now (new elections you know) I expect a verdict about the Thaksin video speech and it's possible breach of election laws only AFTER the elections

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It's a moot point anyway as the military will ultimately render any vote meaningless in the longer term.

Does this mean we actually agree that short term (like this year) there will not be a coup ?

Noppadol has denied that Thaksin is in Cambodia, commanding Khmer troops on the border /TAN_Network

Nice to know, but what's the reason to make this statement? K. Noppadol just earning his keep?

...announced the party's policies, which employs the slogans "Thaksin Thinks, Pheu Thai Delivers"

Honestly its pathetic, Phuea Thai is a total joke. One man and his sock puppets.

A better slogan would be "Thaksin dictates, Pheua Thai obeys".

Honestly its pathetic, Democrats are a total joke. One Army and their sock puppet.

A better slogan would be "Military dictates, Democrats obey". Or "Newin dictates, Democrats obey".

Honestly, one is a near direct quote from the perpetrator, the other is an opinion

I can understand why T(h)aksin would be punished in case he brake the law but i don't understand based on what PTP might be dissolved?

This article, journalist, cited which Law is possibly broken and penalty from Law but he didn't make the same for possibly dissolving of PTP.

Even if Thaksin violated the election law by acting as party executive member, it is unlikely the Pheu Thai Party would be dissolved.

Article 97 of the Constitution organic law on Political Parties states that banned executive members of any dissolved party are prohibited from becoming executive members of other parties or establishing another party. But the law also stipulates that punishment is for individual guilt, carrying a two year imprisonment or Bt40,000 fine or both.

Why he didn't show here by which Law and Article, PTP might be dissolved?

Probably because he said it was unlikely the PTP might be dissolved referring to article 97 and it's details

The army source said that there have been 4 deaths,17 people injured and 27,000 evacuees. Additionally, 21 Cambodian soldiers were killed and 39 injured.

Sad, very sad.

Can't help wondering what figures the other side has published

The 'other' newspaper on 2011-03-28 (PM: Web lese majeste a worry) describing questions about left-wing academic Giles Ungpakorn's recent statements in England. The quote above is somewhat out of context.

Not when I was using it to show Abhisit agrees there is a difference between an academic commenting and someone with malicious intent.

We seem to agree we disagree. End of possible discussion.

Quote from Abhisit himself, and more evidence of hypocrisy.

According to the source, Mr Abhisit pointed out that critics who expressed their academic views had to be separated from those who had ill intentions towards the monarchy."Especially among internet users, people who express opinions honestly must not be forced to join the movements of those with ill intentions," the source quoted him as saying.

source?

The 'other' newspaper on 2009-03-28 (PM: Web lese majeste a worry) describing questions about left-wing academic Giles Ungpakorn's recent statements in England. The quote above is somewhat out of context.

(edit: correct date of article, not 2011 but 2009!)

2011-04-24

"As usual in Thai-Cambodian disputes, each side accused the other of firing first, but witnesses said the heaviest artillery appeared to be fired from the Thai side. Regular intervals of Thai rocket-fire could be heard by Reuters' journalists.

The confrontation comes just a week before Abhisit is expected to dissolve parliament, paving the way for a close election expected by July. Some analysts say the government may be trying to flex its military muscle to score political points.

Others say hawkish Thai generals and their ultra-nationalist allies may be trying to create a pretext for a coup to cancel the elections.

Cambodia's government may also be trying to stir nationalist fervor by starting a conflict to show its army can stand up to its historic rival, or there may have been a simple breakdown in communications at a time of strained relations. There has been little official explanation for the fighting."

http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wned/news.newsmain/article/0/13/1793406/TOPPING.THE.NEWS/Clashes.erupt.for.third.day.on.Thai-Cambodian.border

This is obvious.

Obvious for us but also for any honest observer.

Thailand cannot explain its stances because its not possible to understand them, even if you are clever and open minded.

Explaining and having an explanation understood or not, are two different things. Both possible at the same time