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Well that's not what I was talking about but never mind (as ever).

We haven't competed with Germany since their recovery after the war but I wonder what happened in 2020??? Oh wait a minute! It's time for Hint from The Link: Mike Hawes, SMMT Chief Executive, said: “A second consecutive month of growth for UK car production gives cause for optimism, though volumes are still well below pre-pandemic levels.”

UK manufacturing and fishing industries all in decline for decades, not all due to the EU but did they grow after we joined the EEC/EU? Never. Rebates were OK in the 80's but mostly given back by Blair. Vetoes and opt-outs have also been lost over the years, as I've already said. The UK joined too late to ever have significant influence. De Gaulle didn't want us in and was right for once.

Motor industry? Fishing industry? Huge influence? Get help.

You criticize UK education - is that why you don't know how to reference a link properly?

You miss the fact that, while Farage was a leader of one of the two main Leave campaigns, it would have not made a difference. He would not have succeeded in getting a second go. Up to you.

Probably because few considered it relevant because what one man (Farage) said would not alter anything. If the vote had been remain (by any margin) then it would have been accepted, without any complaint, by the vast majority of leavers. We were ready for that. Conversely, and as we have seen, there has been non-stop whining from the remainers for nearly 7 long years already!

I didn't forget. But the UK fleet was cut nearly in half after the CFP took effect.

Same as I think joining was the most ill thought-out, self-harming, illegal and disastrous act that any UK government has implemented in the last 52 years, after the most blatant lies were distributed by its supposed leader of the day. The UK's "power and rights" in the EU were steadily waning after Thatcher, with opt-outs and rebates already largely bartered away by Major, Blair and Cameron. In 2015, the EU was pushing for its own army, finance ministry and foreign ministry, and well on its way to achieving the dream of creating a single European super state, whereby the UK would have eventually become a mere vassal province. Should the UK rejoin, then all these ambitions and dangers would resurface. I agree that by rejoining the UK would be in an even weaker position than before. But but I also think that If your children are determined enough, then they will still be able to move and work in the EU or elsewhere.

The UK fishing industry was clobbered when we joined the EEC.

So rude.

You mean like the remainers?

Treaties are agreements and EU Treaty Law is direct law in any EU member state. Laws that remain on the books and affect fishing need to go, just as all the regulations which hurt small UK businesses.

Yep. About 2041 is fair.

And you complain about your questions not being answered? 555

The Republicans have suggested exactly where they want to find cuts.

Yes. It's a pity the Democrats don't do more cudgeling to cap the debt too.

Both parties are guilty - not just one: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/22/business/economy/federal-debt-history.html

That would require an elaborate post.

What is quite remarkable (but sadly expected) is that remainers refuse to concede that the British Parliament lost absolute sovereignty once the Treaty of Rome was signed and that sovereignty was significantly further eroded with each new treaty, regulation, directive and decision.

Article 50 was triggered in March 2017. The rest was a cluster.

I'm sorry....but you might want to read that again.

All mixed up and ridiculous.

I'd love to know where you got those numbers.

Perhaps then, if we were allowed to leave fully and completely, that indictor might be more easily identifiable and clear?