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1 minute ago, My Thai Life said:
should respect the result.
The result that nowhere talked about leaving the single market, only about leaving the EU.
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5 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:
Ending FOM was a major part of the referendum debate. (...) Leaving the EU means leaving the SM.
You say so, but no one cares what you think. That's not how democracy works. You wanted a referendum, so respect the referendum result rather than asserting what the people wanted. You cannot speak for the people.
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2 minutes ago, aright said:
Agreed but you can't claim to have left the EU if you are still bound by their so called freedoms.
Sure you can.
Step 1: Leave the EU.
Step 2: Agreement to stay in the single market.
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9 minutes ago, aright said:
One big issue at the referendum was control of our borders which means controlled but not free movement of people.
5 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:thought it was important to the UK to avoid this
The referendum was only about leaving the EU, not about any post-Brexit terms. Nowhere did the electorate vote against the free movement of people post Brexit.
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9 minutes ago, aright said:
Precisely! There was only stay or leave on the ballot and the majority voted to leave.
So leave the EU and agree on a deal that will allow you to stay in the single market. Referendum result respected. No hard Irish border. Economy not screwed. Actually negotiable with the EU. All issues solved.
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13 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:
Out cannot include FOM and FOM requires exiting the SM.
Where did it say so on the ballot paper? If I remember correctly, the ballot paper didn’t include anything regarding post-Brexit terms.
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8 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:
There was no soft brexit on the ballot, as you know.
Same as there was no “leave the single market” on the ballot paper, as you know.
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15 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:
Ending FOM was a major issue in the referendum.
And who are you that you decide what “a major issue” was and what people actually voted for?
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5 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:
People voted to end freedom of movement.
No, they didn’t. Nowhere was that mentioned on the ballot paper.
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2 hours ago, My Thai Life said:Now some of those same remainers are saying that we didn't vote to leave the Single Market.
Show me where it said on the ballot paper that people are voting to leave the single market.
See, that’s the problem with you Brexiteers. You ask people to “respect the referendum result” but aren’t doing it yourself. When people (correctly) point out that referendums aren’t binding but advisory only, you want people to stick to what’s written on the ballot paper. When people (correctly) point out that lots of lies and false promises were made during the campaigns and no one knew what he was voting for, you argue there’s a ballot paper so people knew what they were voting for. So then stick to it: it only said to leave the EU. Nowhere did anyone vote for or against any post-Brexit agreement terms.
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Amazing that apparently it’s possible to settle a rape case by paying off someone. I though these things only happen in Thailand.
A proper justice system should not allow to let the rich get away with it.
And why exactly is he suing the magazine? The case is public anyway: http://www.spiegel.de/media/media-43488.pdf
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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:
Israel is surrounded by enemies with much greater numbers. Has been from day one.
Keep defending those terrorists. They’re not better than any other radicals, whether it’s Muslims, Jews or Christians.
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Who is going to believe this terrorist and his Muslim-hating nation? They’re the biggest terrorists and threat to peace.
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48 minutes ago, puck2 said:The UK people have been told to to give their opinion about Brexit.
This. And only this. People were asked to give their opinion, purely advisory, and only about leaving the EU, not about future relationships. It’s quite amazing how Brexiteers twist this into a binding decision about (not only leaving but even) future relationship.
1. The UK should just remain in the EU. “Thanks for giving your opinion. We have considered this in the decision-making, along with many other facts. In the end, considering all information carefully, we came to the conclusion that it’s best to stay. Thank you for your valuable input.”
2. The U.K. should just stay in the single market. “Thanks for giving your opinion. We have considered this in the decision-making, along with many other facts. In the end, considering all information carefully, we came to the conclusion that we will follow your advice of leaving the EU, while we are also glad to announce an agreement with the EU that will let us stay in and benefit from the single market.”
Problem solved.
Instead, the U.K. is building castles in the sky since two years. After May, apparently now it’s Boris’ turn to propose how to walk on water. Good luck with this but it’s just wastin everyone’s time.
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5 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:Looks like the EU wants to have it's cake and eat it too.
The biggest cake for the EU is the single market. Offering some crumbs instead won’t work.
5 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:Mafia says "No" because it's not good for us compared to now...and the leaving business gets whacked.
1. The EU, unlike a mafia, operates based on laws. If the U.K. feels it is being treated unfairly, it can call a court. The EU will do that if the U.K. doesn’t fulfill its payment obligations.
2. The EU doesn’t say “no”. It cannot even say “no”. Article 50 has been triggered; there is no way back.
3. Likewise, the EU isn’t whacking anyone because the EU can’t. If anything, the U.K. is whacking itself.
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40 minutes ago, Esso49 said:And I hope you are young enough, once you can get out of your stroller, to never ever have to endure any of what those of us, and our Fathers had to endure last century in order that you children now have the freedom to be able to comment on issues of which you have minimal historic understanding.
What’s it with you and all this off-topic that has nothing to do with te discussion? So please let us know what you “had to endure last century” and how that is relevant.
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1 hour ago, Esso49 said:
I guess you must be German and could not quite grasp the meaning and intent of my text. ????
Not sure how you want to know my nationality or how that would be relevant here.
1 hour ago, leither69 said:EU getting desperate in my opinion, tried hardball to prevent the split, they are panicking as other countries will follow.
Interesting interpretation of the situation. Any facts you’re building your opinion upon, or just wet dreams?
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4 minutes ago, Esso49 said:
Always threatening and nothing learned from the last hundred years.
Who was threatening whom and how does it related to “the last hundred years”?
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11 minutes ago, terryw said:The corruption and lack of democratic accountability
Any evidence for this, or just the typical Brexit lies that got the U.K. into this mess?
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49 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:
The government are laying out all the things that we need to make arrangements for if there is no deal. It's called preparation.
The Brexiteers calls it scaremongering.
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32 minutes ago, billd766 said:
But he wasn't binned for quite a while later and after many thousands of people died.
He is still waltzing around with his ex PMs pension the pension that the EU gave him.
There are many murderers walking around freely. Do you want to suggest that means we should let all murderers walk freely because they should get the same right?
Its bad enough that some were able
to get away with it. We shouldn’t do the same mistake again.
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32 minutes ago, billd766 said:
But he wasn't binned for quite a while later and after many thousands of people died.
He is still waltzing around with his ex PMs pension the pension that the EU gave him.
There are many murderers walking around freely. Do you want to suggest that means we should let all murderers walk freely because they should get the same right?
Its bad enough that some were able
to get away with it. We shouldn’t do the same mistake again.
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5 minutes ago, superal said:
www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-raab/raab-brexit-deal-attainable-but-no-deal-means-no-eu-payment-telegraph-idUSKCN1LS39O
Raab tells you there won’t be a payment. May yells you Chequers isn’t dead. And Boris & Co. told you it would be the easiest deal in history. Problem is, at some point reality kicks in.
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5 minutes ago, superal said:www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-raab/raab-brexit-deal-attainable-but-no-deal-means-no-eu-payment-telegraph-idUSKCN1LS39O
Raab tells you there won’t be a payment. May yells you Chequers isn’t dead. And Boris & Co. told you it would be the easiest deal in history. Problem is, at some point reality kicks in.
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UK voters should make final Brexit decision if talks with EU collapse: poll
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Posted · Edited by welovesundaysatspace
May I assume you got your understanding about the EU and the Single Market from the same conspiracy theories blogs where you found the alleged words of a dead guy that you used to construct a conspiracy theory about the EU? So I'm not surprised you don't care about facts here either.