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5 minutes ago, vogie said:
"Nobody force the UK to leave" no they didn't, but unlike the EU I thought we had a system called democracy, it may not be the ideal system but it has generally served us quite well through the ages.
What served you will through the ages was a system called representative parliamentary democracy. Until the day when a desperate PM confused the whole system with an opinion poll.
5 minutes ago, vogie said:The UK offered us a vote and we voted leave, so whether you or the EU like it or not we are leaving.
It’s cute that you’re still believing in it.
5 minutes ago, vogie said:Best just to walk away and let the EU stew.
You’d have to find a majority for that. But you chose to alienate everyone. Clever strategy. Must come from Rumpelstilzchen Cummings.
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10 minutes ago, el torro said:Please try not to be so insulting for no reason towards another poster.
May's deal was 'leave in name only', and the boris 'deal' isn't much better.
The EU certainly didn't participate in "genuine negotiations", they dictated the terms of any talks, and May (a remainer) allowed them to get away with this.
...and you expected the EU would team up with you to make Brexit the shining unicorn that the liars told you you would get? Keep living in lala land.
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14 minutes ago, el torro said:You rely on insults/EU wants or needs nothing from the UK - without any substantiation.
If being confronted with reality is an insult for you, then that pretty much describes what your issue is.
QuoteDo you genuinely believe that the EU doesn't want/need UK money?
I believe Brexiteers want something, and somehow expect us (and everyone else) to give it to them. Brexit is your problem alone; it’s not our issue that you sold people unicorns and now can’t deliver.
QuoteIf this was the case, why on earth did they agree to the extensions?
Agreeing to an extension is better for us than not agreeing.
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14 minutes ago, el torro said:""If we held talks at the weekend it would look like these were proper negotiations," the Times newspaper had earlier cited an EU diplomat as saying."
Exactly, the EU has no intention of genuinely negotiating.
I wouldn’t negotiate with a janitor who feels entitled for a 1,000% pay raise because his wife and kids told him so. Other’s domestic problems are their’s to solve.
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2 hours ago, z42 said:I don't really know what else he can do if the EU are not even appearing to want to thrash out deals in an already short timeframe.
Start accepting reality and dealing with the options on hand rather than keep living in lala Land and chasing unicorns. Everyone told them so; it was clear since the beginning that the EU would hold all cards and protect their interests before helping brexiteers with their problems. May at least was able to produce a deal that was agreeable with the EU and parts of parliament, but she also alienated too many in the process. Buffoon Boris with his little Rumpelstilzchen Cummings in his butt achieved nothing but alienating everyone, and now he’s wondering why there won’t be a deal?
It is simple: If the UK wants transition service from the EU, it can have it at the EU‘s terms. Otherwise it will have to find a majority for a no-deal Brexit.
2 hours ago, z42 said:It is very obvious that key players in the UK and EU establishment want to derail the whole thing.
Maybe go to your boss and ask for a 1,000% pay raise at half the time and then tell your wife it is obvious that the company establishment wants to derail the whole thing. Don’t forget to tell your boss he’s undemocratic because your wife and the kids voted for a better life.
2 hours ago, z42 said:As much as i dislike Boris, his skullduggery is no worse than the EU's blatant unwillingness to even negotiate reasonably.
That happens when you choose to believe in unicorns rather than accepting who’s holding the cards.
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58 minutes ago, billd766 said:The job description didn't include being taken to court for doing the job he was supposed to do
The nice thing about living in a democracy is that no one is above the law and everyone can be taken to court, regardless of how important his job description or title is.
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4 hours ago, Monomial said:
The EU charter specifically defines it as the national government. However, the extension is being requested by the country's parliament according to the UK government,
It is the UK government requesting the extension. Not the UK parliament.
Quotewho are additionally claiming that extension request is actually being done in coordination with the EU, rendering it illegal according to the terms of the EU charter.
Boris can claim that if he wants to make a fool of himself again.
QuoteIf the UK government can successfully sho that the EU was involved in a material way in drafting that legislation, then in fact it woulf d be the EU who is not allowing the UK to leave, albeit with the compliance of the UK parliament.
I guess there are actually some desperate fools who buy into such hogwash. Is it made for the same poor nuts that believe an armchair lawyer telling them the UK actually has left already but the MSM just isn’t telling anyone?
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Who cares? Brexit is Boris’ problem. If he wants transition service from the EU, he can have it at the EU’s terms. Otherwise he can find another way to manage it.
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56 minutes ago, JonnyF said:The EU know the country doesn't want it and they know the UK government doesn't want it.
The country doesn’t want to leave otherwise it wouldn’t request an extension.
So it’s not that the EU is not letting you leave. It’s the EU letting you stay because you want to stay.
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Insecure little bully boy.
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50 minutes ago, JonnyF said:I said "Let" us leave. By refusing the extension request.
No one is not letting you leave. You’re requesting the extensions.
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36 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
The UK Parliament is trying to stop us from leaving.
They are carrying out their duties for which they have been democratically elected. Again you seem to ignore that the UK is a parliamentary representative democracy, not one governed by opinion polls.
36 minutes ago, JonnyF said:They may succeed temporarily, but if you think that Brexiteers are going to forget about the referendum result that they won then you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
It's only a matter of time until the next General Election, despite the oppositions lack of balls to call one. The swamp will be drained, the traitors and anti-democrats will be removed from their seats and then we will see how much you love the sovereignty of Parliament, when it's full of Leavers as voted for by the electorate
I don’t read in crystal balls.
36 minutes ago, JonnyF said:If that makes you happy then enjoy it while it lasts, because the hour glass is running out for this disgrace of a Parliament ✊????.
It’s always a good laugh seeing bullies fail.
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2 minutes ago, Victornoir said:
Yet the lines between staying and leaving vary little. This shows a persistent rejection of the European Union. So, better to separate now.
Your link shows a majority for Remain.
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3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
Correct, the people want to leave and Parliament wants to Remain. I am happy you worked that out.
The same probably applies for taxes and other things. People have to accept the constitutional laws I am afraid, which means to accept they’re living in a representative democracy.
At least you worked out now that there is no one who doesn’t let you leave, but it’s the UK who doesn’t want to leave.
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8 minutes ago, Jip99 said:
Not necessarily.
Wrong.
8 minutes ago, Jip99 said:Just preventing the collusion to prevent Brexit would be enough.
You can call your constitution a collusion, but it doesn’t help you either. It’s just further ignoring reality.
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3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
Yes, 3 people in the pub is comparable to 33 million votes ????. What was I thinking?
Neither gives you the parliamentary majority that you need. You know that.
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5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:
Many have already been negotiated but we cannot sign until we leave. South Korea for example.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49430207
Yes I consider the US to be a suitable trading partner.
If you’re arguing with GDP numbers, it would be interesting to know how much in GDP is covered by EU trade deals and the single market, and how much in GDP the UK will cover after Brexit with their trade deals.
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3 minutes ago, Jip99 said:52/48 was a majority to leave.
You need a majority in parliament. You know that.
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11 minutes ago, JonnyF said:Sounds like this is going to work out great for the EU. Makes you wonder why they don't let us leave at the end of October and start reaping the benefits immediately ????.
No one doesn’t let you leave. It’s the UK who doesn’t want to leave because there’s no majority for it.
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“Boss, on Wednesday you will receive my final proposal for this employment. After my wife and the kids for three years are telling me I deserve double the pay for half the time, freed from the shackles of all your workplace rules and telling me what to do, it is time that you accept the Democratic will of our family. If you don’t accept my final proposal, I will be out and gone, no matter the mortgage and that I won’t be able to find a new job anytime soon. I am holding all the cards because you will lose an employee and my wife will blame you when we have to apply for food stamps. Ha! And don’t expect me to serve the three months notice period be agreed to in my employment contract. Out means out!”
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Can’t he just use one of those loopholes or just ignore the Benn act? That would at least give us Europeans more to laugh; either he will make a fool of himself again or (should there really be a working loophole) he will divide and ruin Brexit-Britain even more. That’s the sweet thing about Brexit — Brexiteers always lose, whatever way they take. And it was clear from the beginning because unicorns just don’t exist, even when you vote for it.
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Some things are the same in Thailand and in the West:
One of these things is that people are different. No one will be able to give you a guarantee that every Thai girl is x, y, and z. You will meet many westerners who try to do so, but that is because they were lucky or unlucky enough to only experience a certain kind of Thai girl for whatever reason.
Another of these things is that you cannot and should not assume when it comes to dating and relationship. You’ve been dating for a while, but different people mean different things when they’re dating. Some might be looking for a no strings attached thing; some even have multiple of these. For some others, dating might mean a lot and they’re actually looking for a serious relationship. I have met different types and even I have looked for different things depending on my personal situation and the girl.
Why do you assume or expect you’re in a committed exclusive relationship? And that she’s not supposed to use dating sites anymore? Did you ever talk about this? Her expectations might be different than yours.
The only way to find out is to gauge whether she might be interested in a committed relationship and then carefully having “the talk” about what that actually means for both of you. You should be able to see how she treats you and whether you’re more a gik for her or potentially more. Likewise, you should also be able to see whether she’s actually girlfriend material for you or just a good fxxx turning your head upside down.
Dating sites are not exactly known to be for relationship seekers. I’m not saying it’s not possible but you know what Tinder & Co. are being used for primarily. Again, that doesn’t mean it’s the case here. Just factor it into your thoughts.
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23 minutes ago, vogie said:
What a load of tosh, Boris wants an election to get us out of the EU, the last thing he wants is to get an extension so we have stay longer than is necessary.
And I want to be rich; the last thing I want is to work. He will have to make a decision what is more important for him. Otherwise stop whining.
QuoteWhen Boris came riding in the House of Commons like a Montana cowboy yesterday, Corbyn was hiding behind a tumbleweed like a wounded cayote.
Corbyn will have an election when Len McClusky says he can.
Quite amusing how Brexiteers since three years alienate the people they expect to solve their problems, whether it’s the EU or the opposition. You need to build bridges and offer compromises when you want something from others. Otherwise stop whining.
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EU rejects UK's request for weekend talks as Johnson insists on no Brexit delay
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Oh, I definitely agree, it would be much less entertainment without him. Brexit has been almost four years of great entertainment with people making a fool of themselves. Another reason for more extensions.