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13 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Its not irrelevant at all , The E.U countries will want to get deals done with the UK as it would be beneficial to their own Countries .

Of course everyone wants that, but the priority will always be on the single market rather than the UK market. That’s something you see when you look at other numbers than trade deficits. 

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if the UK is running a trade deficit with the EU, then the EU stands a lot more to lose in a WTO situation than the UK does. It should be an order of magnitude easier for the UK to find a new supplier, than it would be for the EU to find a new customer.

Trade deficits are irrelevant when answering the question of whom needs whom more. Most Brexiteers still haven’t understood that because they just copy/paste the nonsense of other brexiteers. 

I must be doing something wrong. I end up having more to save here than I had back in Europe, while my salary is the same as it was back home. Apart from lower income tax, I definitely benefit from lower cost of living, and that was part of my calculations when I decided to move back here. 

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Time for the pragmatists in the EU to accept you need it more than the UK now. 

Let me guess: you’ll pull out that balance of trade numbers again and talk about all the BMWs and Audis on UK streets. Analytics geniuses. ????????

14 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

What people seem to ignore is that the EU needs a deal far more than the UK does. 

Let me guess, you conclude that based on balance of trade? 

14 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

Thousands of EU jobs rely on Exports to Britain, far more than British jobs rely on Europe.

Whether true or not, how does that support your theory? 
 

14 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

Too many statistics have been twisted to suit the Remainers views.

At least they don’t try to answer questions based on irrelevant data. 

10 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Good they shut it down. This is just an example of what is most important for young people today. Without drugs in their system, they are just a scared individual without enough self confidence to smile, talk and have fun with people.

10 hours ago, POMRAKSIAM said:

It is good the police arrested the kids using, it might help them realize where drugs always take the user-poor or stupid choices, bad actions, pain for all those involved. .....

I imagine the drug use numbers being sky high in America if the police were a loud to take everyone's urine!

If they only would ban alcohol. 

4 hours ago, roquefort said:

Do you think Germany (on the verge of recession) really wants to have 25% tariffs imposed on all the BMWs, Mercs and Audis they sell to the UK?  That's 6.6% of their exports and more importantly 2.6% of their GDP. Enough to tip them over the edge.

And how do you conclude 6.6% (or 2.6%) are “Enough to tip them over the edge”? Does that come from the same data geniuses who tried to answer the “who needs whom more” question by using the balance of trade? 

16 hours ago, nauseus said:

Strange. I mean all this fuss over a silly opinion poll. 

Agree. People should stick to the law and not make a fuss about an opinion poll. 

8 minutes ago, nauseus said:

The European Union Referendum Act handed the decision to the people.
 

no, it didn’t. Quite the opposite. Read the act. 
 

8 minutes ago, nauseus said:

One problem with remainers is that they now think the referendum was merely an opinion poll,

It was. And not just merely. 
 

8 minutes ago, nauseus said:

which was also somehow corrupted.  

 

It was. 

1 minute ago, transam said:

It has been a disaster for the folk who voted for it and stitched up by the  politicians who were meant to represent their decision....Labour, are now history..

They are not meant to represent your decision. 

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Change the record..Please..........????

Tell that the person who started the record. 

1 minute ago, Jip99 said:

 

His turn of phrase was “I would rather be dead in a ditch than ask for a Brexit delay”.

 

 

You do understand a turn of phrase, don’t you?

 

 

I do understand that Boris is a serial liar who would be the last one to expect anyone to stick to his promises. 

9 minutes ago, nauseus said:

The referendum was enabled by the European Union Referendum Act, 2015, which was passed by our sovereign parliament.

 

Withdrawal was approved by the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017, passed by our sovereign parliament.

You are right that it’s up to the sovereign parliament to decide. The problem is that Brexiteers think it’s up to them and their corrupted opinion poll to decide. 

12 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

Well done. You fell for that deflection.

 

It is like Cameron saying Leave means Leave, May saying No Deal is better than a bad deal, Labour saying we will honour the referendum result and. Corbyn  saying I want an election.

...and Johnson saying he will get the UK by 31 October or be dead in a ditch? Maybe Corby will stick to his promise if Johnson sticks to his ???? (but I’m afraid Johnson is the serial liar here)
 

1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

It is only the timetable that has been rejected.

 

 

Won’t make the 31st October target date (unless the EU decide not to extend) but, take the extension, call Corbyn’s bluff on an election - Tories returned with a working majority, get the Withdrawal Bill through the HoC.

And that will be in 2022 or how will that fool get his election when he lies dead in his ditch?

On 10/21/2019 at 3:26 PM, el torro said:

The EU has no intention of allowing the UK to leave without a 'deal' that pays them a lot of money.

Poor Brexiteers who still don‘t understand that the EU doesn’t have a say in a member state‘s sovereign decision to leave. 

7 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

why do you keep commenting on something that is none of your business. How very strange

Because I can ???? 

7 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

Destroying the country! You obviously have no idea of our history.

What a ridiculous comment 

I wasn’t talking about history. I was talking about the presence. Keep fighting each other ???? 

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Pedantic. I expect that you do know that he is referring to the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act, 2017. 

The referendum wasn’t binding. Neither article 50 nor the European Union (Notification of Withdrawal) Act, 2017 deal with referendums. 

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Well, my argument here is not about the interpretation of the letter of the law, which can be twisted every which way by those who want to, at least for the purposes of delay. It's about honouring the underlying system. Honour and decency exist to prevent endless conflict and impasse.

“Honour and decency” can more easily be interpreted and twisted than laws. 

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In a sense, honour is the system, and if that system is flouted, the result is chaos - as we see. Perhaps the British pioneered this - I certainly take it to be the essence of Britishness - and I don't know about you, but I learnt how to lose with honour and decency at an early age.

Chaos is because Brexiteers are trying to ignore the laws, and consider that decent and honest. It’s not. 

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Not you, obviously.  

Exactly ????