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33 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

The key point is that 57% want us out of the EU according to this poll. Despite the anti-Brexit media and big business efforts to scare us into changing our minds, the majority still want out.  

Where do you read that in that chart? According to Brexiteers, neither May’s deal nor a soft Brexit actually mean Brexit; they say it is “leaving in name only”. Therefore, according to that chart, only 28% want to leave the EU. 

Otherwise, should I be wrong in my understanding that May’s deal or a soft Brexit are “leaving in name only”, then why don’t you go ahead with one of those options? 

Of course, you know perfectly well that there are people who want to leave the EU but only with a soft Brexit or under May’s deal, never without a deal. Intentionally misinterpreting numbers like that is a really poor attempt.  

5 minutes ago, Loiner said:

No mention of any deal in the Withdraw Act they did pass as a law.
Brexiteers understand that much, why don’t Remainers?

Let’s be realistic:

1. How likely is that Johnson really would prioritize Brexit over going down as the shortest serving PM in history or the one wrecking the UK?

2. How likely is that parliament really wouldn’t be able to stop it?

3. How would a no-deal Brexit (if 1 and 2 really happen) influence the UK’s negotiation position with the EU? 

Everyone knows this, especially the EU, that’s why no-deal is an empty threat. 

23 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Cars made in the UK, even under a foreign banner, are Ok. If the owners want to relocate factories to wage slave EU they can do, but expect a tax on those cars coming into the UK.

The Trumpian strategy of making your people pay for your stupidity. Brilliant. 

1 hour ago, alant said:

Many have opinions about the effects and validity of a no deal but to rule it out seriously weakens the negotiating position.

Removing an empty threat doesn’t weaken a negotiation position. The EU holds all the cards; the negotiation position of the UK cannot be weakened further. 

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

What these arrogant dunderheads seem to forget that they were elected parliament by the votes of the common people and to represent the common people.

That’s what they’re doing. The only “arrogant dunderhead” seems to be you for ignoring or not knowing what parliamentary representative democracy means and that elected MPs are bound by nothing more than what they deem to be the best for the country. 

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

They already voted to leave and now they want to change their minds and back track.

That’s simply not true. 

I don’t quite understand what Brexiteers are whining about again. It seems tabling such amendment is perfectly in line with the constitution, and so is parliament deciding about it. 

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

It is however a 2 way trade. If the EU wishes to put high tariffs on goods imported from the EU there will be nothing stopping the UK doing the same.

1) Almost half of all UK exports go to the EU. 

2) Only 7% of all EU exports go to the UK. 

Who relies on whom? 

42 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

it would be... a return to Napoleon’s continental system

A return to a no-EU-membership System, which is what you wanted. 

2 hours ago, HauptmannUK said:

I suggest you educate yourself.  If we leave with 'no deal' we cannot do what we want. Read up on WTO and GATT24.

I’ve heard they’re planning the next big coup called wtoxit. 

“Project Fear” whining in 3... 2... 1...

1 hour ago, bert bloggs said:

From the recording(by lefty luvvie standing out in the hall and then sending the recording to the Guardian) it seems that she was the one doing 90% of the shouting and plate breaking ,if in fact any were broken ,it seems like the sort of thing happens now and again in any normal household , nothing to see here move along , mind you not much use sending it the the gruntian unless you send some cash to keep both its readers reading .

10 minutes ago, evadgib said:

This seems entirely appropriate IMO:

 

It says a lot about people when they consider such behavior as a normal incident that happens “on a regular basis” in every household. Even more concerning that they seem to abuse their partner over issues such as “the central heating or who turned the thermostat up or down”. I’m wondering how they deal with real problems. Not surprised this is coming out of the mouth of a cheapish dressed bird who looks like she’s on her walk of shame while visiting a Donald Dumb rally. 

No, this does not happen between civilized people. Only the riff-raff considers this normal.