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Oh sorry I just beat my wife a "little bit" and I only broke into the business but i did not steal very much, just a "little bit" and I was only speeding just a "little bit" and the kid i hit i only hit a "little bit". So technically i only broke the law a "little bit". Great defense, if you are a high paid lawyer trying to defend trump. I agree that lawyer will soon enough get fired or quit. Then he will write a book and do the rounds on Fox and right wing media to see if he can make more $$. And of course trump will call him incompetent and an idiot and worse and later try to claim incompetent lawyers require him to get the trial delayed while his "new" lawyers get up to speed. I hope his current lawyer at least got paid up front in cash or he can line up with the dozens of other lawyers, and various workers, still waiting to get paid by the man who is "really really rich" but needs for the cult to send him more $$.

Ok fair enough. Now let's see what happens when it goes to trial and goes to the next stage of reasonable doubt.

Believe what you like...will not prevent smith from continuing to provide real evidence backed up by a mountain of testimony, texts, emails, audio and video to the jury. In spite of what a lot of cult members spew over and over with zero evidence the courts deal in hard evidence, not a bunch of BS from people who refuse to accept that the emperor has no clothes.

Yes that is what we call a jury system where they sit and look and listen to all the evidence presented and they also sit and look and listen to what the defendant claims and look at any evidence that he may have...then they vote whether or not that beyond a reasonable doubt they believe he is quilty or they find a reasonable doubt and find him innocent. Nobody can ever fully predict what a jury might do sometimes in spite of overwhelming evidence of guilt...like OJ for example. My bet is that at least one jury in one of the several trials will indeed find donnie boy guilty....or maybe several will find him guilty of several charges but maybe not all. I do not think he will be exonerated of all charges by all juries. Based on the evidence thus far outlined in the speaking indictments and the defenses i have heard trumps lawyers blab about i certainly would not want to have to defend donnie...it is one thing to go on TV and blabber away about theories and quite another to have to answer charges in a court of law...trump has and continues to run his big flapping mouth and much of his statements will be shown to the jury. Trump will never take the stand in court as he would not last ten minutes under the brutal cross examination by lawyers who would pick him and his lies apart. It will also not surprise me if trump gets locked up soon for violating the judges orders about not threatening harrasing or intimidating witness...which it appears he is already doing with mike pence and continues to threaten prosecutors and judges...donnie is likely to soon find out that he is no longer president and he can't just do and say anything he pleases if it is in direct violation of court. warnings. Or as he loves to yell "lock him up".

and cassidy was very specific in saying she did not personally view the grab steering wheel but one of the security guys who was in the car told her that happened.....and of course she was attacked for even telling the story but she was trying her best to share all that she saw and heard abd that certainly was worth relating what she had been told.........and we all know that a security guard or any older guy would never ever tell a pretty single gal like cassidy a few whopers to try and impress her with what an important person he was... .i also doubt it happened as trump is a coward and likely was terrified that he might get his hair messed up if he really went to the capital....

From those almost all selected and appointed by trump as the "best and brightest" who served under him and knew him up close and personal.....42 of 44 cabinet members and various others in his orbit don't think very highly of "mr. perfect"....and yet millions who never met the man, never worked for him, never observed him except in rallies and on TV refuse to accept that he was a HORRIBLE president. When 42 of 44 of your closest advisors publicly state that he was bad news knowing full well they will be attacked by the cult you might want to listen to those people who know him best rather than a jesse waters, sean hannity,lydnsey graham, mccarthy, or internet trolls and biden haters. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/politics/officials-who-criticized-donald-trump/index.html

Except the route they drove to the airport passed through none of the bad areas of town so trump had to even lie about what he saw out the window.......it's all on video.

Donald Trump: "only guilty people plead the fifth"....from his mouth, on tape.

Do you really think that jack smith would just make up a bunch of testimony from republicans and put them in quotation marks if he did not have that testimony nailed down with video and texts of the actual testimony? Do you think he would be stupid enough to make any allegation without having the receipts to back it up in court? Do you think the grand jury would have indicted on a bunch of theories? Do you think jack smith or the DOJ would go forward with something that they were not almost 100% sure can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law that would make it all look like a hit job? Take a look at Jack Smith. Does he appear to be a guy that just pulls stuff out of his rear end like the defendant? Read the indictment which does not even include all of the evidence he has, just the highlights. Unlike repubs who scream witch hunt and lock em up and rigged election with no evidence, Jack dots the i's and crosses the t's.....

I don't want to ride in a tuk tuk regardless of who is driving and I sure would not ride in one that might rub other drivers the wrong way and in up in the middle of a baseball bat fight.

That is why we have courts and trials and rules of law....rather than a bunch of screaming lunatics yelling lock her/him at at political rallies because they read some stupid conspiracy theory online or listened to some talking head tell lie after lie designed to increase their audience or online clicks. Present the evidence in a court of law, corraborated by republican after republican that saw and heard action after action and further corraborated by documents, texts, emails, audio tapes, video tapes, etc... Then let the jury decide if the case has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt (not a shawdow of doubt which many undeducated seem to think is the standard). Let the system proceed without death threats against witnesses, judges, lawyers, jurors designed to intimidate/delay/ and corrupt the legal system. Then accept the verdict without storming the courtrooms or resorting to violence.

Speaking of Mark Meadows....can there be any doubt that he is certainly filling in a lot of blanks and could well be a very top level witness against donnie and the dumbos? He had already turned over all kinds of emails, texts, etc to J6 committee but then mysteriously stopped....you don't suppose he got a call from the don with a few threats? Meadows has no spine either but i suspect he did manage to figure out he better tell what he saw and heard or he would get charged and maybe end up spending a few years in the slammer. Will be interesting to see him on the stand telling all he saw and heard from poor little innocent never did a thing that wasn't perfect donnie. Rest assured that if that happens the death threats from the cult will reach new levels. How long will the various judges allow donnie and the cult to threaten judges, lawyers, witnessess, etc til they give donnie a sample of what prison life might look like?

anyone whose avatar is a picture of clarence thomas surely is just a troll?

Last time i checked stacey abrams was not and has never been the president and never tried to overthrow the government...but rattle on about how hard gop want to make sure results are on the up and up but then refuse to accept the results of 60c court cases, investigation after investigation and recount after recount done almost all by the GOP that found no significant election fraud. Got it.

A scam as sworn to by republican after republican who were actually present for many of the conversations and testified under oath as to the various illegal activities done by the man who had hired them or appointed them and who they had voted for. Yep once again those incompetent democrats have pulled off a fantastic feat by convincing these life long republicans to lie under oath....almost as good as the incompetent dems who managed to rig the election in 7 states without leaving a shred of evidence to be uncovered by 60 court cases, recount after recount, investigation after investigation almost all of which were conducted by republicans who voted for trump. Wow that truly is the "ultimate scam" in history. Not bad for a bunch of incompetent democrats.

and yet the fine "christians" of south carolina vote for the lying sack of crap again and again....I would love to see georgia indict his limp butt for trying to interfere in the georgia potus election...who knows maybe they have a few tape recordings of Limpy threatening a few Ga officials.

And then there is Lying Limp Lyndsey Graham who on Jan 6 was DONE with trump then gave him a BJ and has kissed his rear end ever since....and of course Ted "cancun" Cruiz who cuddles up to a man who said his dad was involved in JFK assination.....then there is Kevin "marjorie" McCarthy who has the integrity of George Santos and the backbone of a jelly fish....and "tiny penis" Marco Rubio who seems to have a man crush on trump who would not throw him a life raft if he was drowning in the Mar a Largo pool. Pence finally did do the right thing after 4++ years of being a bobble head and licking donalds rear end and having trumpers want to hang him...i suspect in the end he did decide that just maybe he should follow the law for a change rather than end up in a jail cell. I am not convinced it was because he suddenly figured out that his great "religious" beliefs and "constitutional standards" and the rule of law demanded it. And above is only a few of the more notable spineless cowards that have enabled the dictator wannabe despite knowing "that the emperor had no clothes" but did not and do not care as the only thing important to them is to stay in office....and of course trump would throw every one of the cowards under the bus in a heart beat if they should dare cross him even now . Out of all the republican senators and congress there are not even a handful that has demonstrated even a tiny bit of integrity much less support for law and order and "chrisitanity" that they pretend to honor. Liz Cheney and Kinzinger and a tiny bit of Romney are the only onces I can think of who have actually demonstrated that they are willing to put their country before their political ambitions. What a pathetic bunch of cowards and hypocrites hold office in the republican party.

And unfortunately there are lots of guys who want to share the lurid details of their every encounter with anyone who will pretend to listen....gee you got laid in pattaya...why aren't you special can you please share all the details as you probably had the hottest gal ever who gave you the best BJ ever and blah blah blah....get a life.

Seems trump who as always is concerned ONLY with himself has a few options he may try to play to stay out of jail. 1. Try and win the election then pardon himself. Problem is self pardon would go to supreme court where it is conceivable that he would lose in spite of appointing 3 of the 9 justices...and of course if that were to happen it would be rigged and here we go again. Problem two: A president cannot pardon himself from state crimes. If NY and GA convict and sentence him to jail he would need a republican gov in both states to pardon him. Not likely 2. Try and bribe or intimidate jurors by having his supporters threaten them with violence against them and their entire family if they vote to convict....you know like a mob boss or cartel leader would do. Sugar or lead. 3. Encourage his cult to try and storm the courts to disrupt the trials or storm the prison/jail to free him. 4. Flee the country and go hang with his buddy Putin in exile and share with him every single secret he knows re US military, nukes, etc possibly providing copies of stolen top secret info. 5. Start a civil war to disrupt the entire country hoping his deranged supporters would take to the streets to kill anyone who dares to oppose him and take over as a dictator then kill or imprison any and all who have ever crossed him. Sadly republicans seem to think this is all some video game with no clue that their support of such a man could result in violence that has not been seen in USA since the civil war...

i am waiting to hear back from them once again...who knows maybe they will accept the flight out of vietnam with me just saying i am leaving thailand overland....probably find out next week....so far only about two weeks since i first applied and getting closer....if need i will book a ticket bkk to nrt on mileage points send them the confirmation so they can check their box then cxl teh flight no penalty...what a joke

same problem with trying to log into banks etc america....i am being told by t mobile that i can reduce my current plan to cheapest for $10 a month and be able to send/ receive texts to usa phones but no phone calls..hope it will work... i want to keep my usa t mobile number for future use but want a thai number when in thailand...... who knows with phone companies as sure is hard to get a straight answer from them...

Take a good look around someday at the wives/husbands of a lot of western farangs....why would you marry someone who weighs two times you...why would you marry someone who nags you night and day? Why would you marry someone who when it goes pear shaped takes half or more of everything you own.....it is not just thailand were some strange choices are made...in fact with many bar girls unless you are braindead you have a pretty good idea of what you are getting often moreso than with a western gal.

yeah too bad they couldn;t choose a reality tv game show host who would suggest drinking bleach, leave behind the biggest deficit of any president ever, hire only the best and brightest then fire them the minute they dared tell him the truth, get negative marks from 42 of 44 of HIS appointed cabinet members who got to observe his incompetence up close....then tell lie after lie , steal classified docs, obstruct their return over and over and over, encourage and cheer on violence, mock handicapped people, scoff at generals and pow's, get convicted of sexual assualt, pay off porn stars cheer on the jan 6 thugs that rioted in the capital and tried to hang his vp (just to name a few of the greatest hits)..oh and the cherry on top try to overthrow the government so king donnie could illegally stay in power like some russian or iraqi dictator would do....what a shining example of a person that to this day is still worshipped by a majority of republicans....

Thanks

It is obvious that many of the frequent posters on this forum have not yet read the indictment...it is only 45 pages and can easily be read in less than an hour...but they spend more than an hour reading this forum and throwing out all the what about biden and witch hunt crap rather than read the darn indictment so they might have some clue as to what their fellow trumpers who were hired or appointed by trump had testified under oath what actually happened...every single witness is a republican but somehow those incompetent democrats have figured out how to get them all to tell a bunch of lies, under oath, to even include trumps own lapdog mike pence to make it a "witch hunt".