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Just keep on dreaming. To face a kangaroo court it will never happen

1) You really shouldn't insult the courts here.

Why? Whenever we want to discuss something near the root, we come to the reminder "you cannot discuss".

Because it is illegal.

It's not illegal to respectfully discuss. The problem is that the discussion often *isn't* respectful, and so poses a (real) risk to Thaivisa itself. But I agree it is annoying and the moderation gets totally out of hand sometimes.

There is a jail term in Thailand for disagreeing with the court. You could be jail calling Judges Kangaroos. This is not Australia.

can you honestly say they destroyed nothing? How about all the businesses that were affected by this criminal act. The pople who have lost their jobs. Those workers in hotels...

First - there's no evidence that they did anything criminal, on the first day at least. It was a large group of people, a political protest, at the airport.

Second, with every political protest there are people who get affected. Be it shops in the protest area who have to stay closed, even big ones like Siam Paragon. When people block the roads lots of peole and businesses are affected. Sometimes farmers or truckers, or laid of workers block major roads, lots of people are affected, overall confidence in the country is affected and so on.

No one asks for any compensation, and no one would likely to ever get it.

Airport takeover was no different in principle, just in scale.

I am surprise you said no one ask ask for compensation.

http://www.google.co.th/search?hl=en&q...amp;aq=0&oq=

Follow this google link and you will be 46,000 search results.

However I agree with you that no one would likely to ever get it (because the courts in Thailand are runs by kangaroos).

Well we had 2 european visa cards bouncing all day, even with the girl at their call center trying to manually proceed the transactions. Each card worked fine for 1 ticket last night, then got declined any time we tried again for a new ticket, even for a regular price BKK-Phnom Phen for tomorrow : my friend will have to pay in cash at the airport's airasia office for her same day ticket. Kinda weird as her card works just fine at the ATM.

We didn't snooze, just got somehow unlucky

The problem is with your cards, not the airline. Once the system suspect that one of your card is being abused by online thief, all transections on all your cards will be blocked. It takes about a day or two for the system to automatically unblock it.

Rubber saplings and cooking shows! Don't these so-called "justices" have something better to do?

But you know how much money it was at the rubber saplings and that mostly Isaan farmers got cheated?

i have no doubt that you can tell us about how much money it was "that mostly Isaan farmers got cheated". so please enlighten us.

It is not the Issan farmers got cheated. It is the Thai tax payer that got cheated. I don't know the exact amount, but my guess is that it should be more than what Samak pocketed from the cooking show. LOL TIT

Over PAD dead body. I have 100 to 1 that Democrats will NOT face dissolution.

The kangaroos are talking.

PM to visit Thaksin stronghold

New prime minister, Abhisit Vejjajiva, vowed Thursday to visit the poor northeast, a stronghold of ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra, where he has struggled to win support.

It would be interesting to see if he dares to go to Chiang Mai.

With Newin protection, I think he is going to N.E. to test the water first.

Just keep on dreaming. To face a kangaroo court it will never happen

1) You really shouldn't insult the courts here.

2) Thaksin said he respected and trusted the courts ... shortly before they convicted him.

Or: "1) You really shouldn't insult the kangaroos."

I am enjoying this. IMHO I prefers kangaroos, because they don't take bribe.

I hope Thaksin won't come back soon. The welcome party by PAD yellow supporter will cause AOT to panic and shut Swampy down again.

Thaksin supporter arrested for attacking lawmakers at Parliament

BANGKOK, Dec 18 (TNA) - Bangkok police on Thursday arrested a man who allegedly attacked vehicles carrying parliamentarians who on Monday voted for Abhisit Vejjajiva as Thailand's 27th prime minister.

The man, identified as Chokechai Kamleu, was one of six protesters sought under court-issued arrest warrants on two charges of assaulting and holding people against their will.

He could face a maximum of seven years in jail and/or a Bt14,000 fine for the two offences if found guilty.

Chokechai, who described himself as a supporter of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, confessed to police that he was the man in the photograph taken by the media throwing a brick at a sedan driven by a Democrat MP as he left the Parliament compound.

"I did it out of revenge for the Puea Thai Party after I learned the result of the vote. I can't accept that my government was unfairly treated all along and neither can I stand a Democrat-led coalition government," Chokechai said.

The Puea Thai Party is comprised of Thaksin loyalists.

Chokechai was among a number of demonstrators led by the United Front for Democracy against

Dictatorship (UDD) who vented their anger after the vote. The rally turned violent when 100 red-shirted protesters broke through police lines and vandalised vehicles belonging to MPs from the Democrat and Puea Pandin parties as they were leaving the parliament grounds.

He also denied that he was hired to use violence against the MPs.

Pol Lt-Gen Suchart Mueankaew, Bangkok metropolitan police chief, pledged that five other suspects, for which arrest warrants have been issued, would be brought to justice as soon as possible.

I feel sorry for the RED team. If they were dress in YELLOW, they will be the untouchable. This is Thailand. This is PADland.

Stupid Mark. That's why I never vote for his party. He has no rights to access my number.

Secondly, after all the consequent messing around and uncertainty in getting/changing and confirming bookings, Air Asia were this week refusing people 5 to 10 minutes late for check in on domestic flights. These people were told to buy new tickets (not to rebook -- to buy new tickets) for the next flight. The ticket states you should check in 45 minutes before the flight. In my experience, most airlines usually allow a little flexibility with this (things do happen -- exceptionally bad traffic, connecting flight delays and so on). Indeed, from my observation, some passengers habitually come very late, even for international flights, and effort is usually made to process them quickly and get them boarded.

Horizon,

Would it make you feel better if AirAsia change their check in policy to:

"Counter close 1 hr before schedule departure. However we will wait up to another 15 mins for those who might be running a little late."

Question is. What do you do if you arrive at the airport 20 mins late (i.e. 40 min before departure)? Would you admit that you are 20 mins late, or are you only 5 mins late, and the airline should close one eye to allow you through?

Normal airlines does not mind if you are 5 to 10 mins late, because you need to be at the airport 2hr (or international) or 1hr (for domestic) before the flight.

Stop complaining about bad service in AirAsia. No AirAsia passengers should not expect any services. You don't pay for service, and you don't get service. If you want service, go TG or something else.

Stop complaining that you are not allowed to check in when you are 5 mins late. You are 5 mins late. What do you expect them to do? Allow you once only? What if you are 8 min late? Allow you onec only? What is you are 17 min late? Allow you onec only? What if you are 36 min late? Allow you onec only? I think their booking website state it very clearly. Counter close promtly 45 before schedule departure. Clear and easy to follow. If you miss, you miss. Clear and easy.

What I hate is normal airlines. They tell you to be at the airport 2 hours before schedule departure time. Why 2 hours? Isn't it a bit too far out?

The low cost terminal in KL is like a bus terminal. What do you expect. Pay 3rd class and expect 1st class.

I hear so many people say: NEVER AGAIN WILL I FLY AIRASIA. They are terrible. No service. Pay for water. pay for food. Like a bus terminal. No blanket. Always late. No free baggage. No refund. No changes. Narrow seats. Small aircraft. Old 737. etc, the list goes on. But when a good promotion comes out, they are the once who stay up untill mid night to be the first to grab cheap seats. Well, my coming BKK-Krabi-BKK cost only 400 Baht (and thet for return, not one way). Cheaper than my one way taxi ride from Nonthaburi home to Swampy.

So please. Go fly your TG (I lose count how many time it crashed already: Nepal, Surat, etc). Please do not fly AirAsia if you don't want to be treated like a dirtbag. AirAsia will survive long after TG goes belly up.

Last night I was able to book a Krabi-BKK flight in march for THB 220, but then I always got an error saying that my visa card was declined when I tried to book BKK-Krabi on march 31st. This morning I'm not able to find any THB 0 flight from anywhere to anywhere...

I find it hard to believe that they sold 100,000 'free' tickets just yesterday. Last night at 11pm there were plenty of them but this morning at 8 there appears to be none left? I suspect they advertised 100K tickets but only input maybe 10K in their booking system :/

I always have problem with credit card from Thai Banks, reject my on-line purchase most of the time. My citibank credit card never bounce, and an automatic SMS is sent to me whenever they detect an online purchase.

AirAsia promotion comes often (like quarterly), however cheap tickets go fast. Very fast.

Usually in the first couple of hours (offers usually start at 00:01 hr), it is almost imposible to access the web page, or very slow repond, or often clash half way during booking (hofefully you have not enter your cc number). Up to noon on the first day, you should get what you want. Beyond that, there maybe left overs here and there, usually you might have to settle for 1 way free, and 1 way paid, or very inconvinient dates. After the first day, there is not much hope left.

You snooze, you loose.

I have a feeling that the reason Newin defect is that he cut a deal with PAD to let him walk from the Rubber Sapling case.

The Nation, Thu, December 18, 2008 : Last updated 10:30 hours

Asean is working to promote and protect human rights

By TERMSAK CHALERMPALANUPAP

Shame ASEAN is not working to promote air-travellers rights.

The Civil Court yesterday ordered the Aviation Department to pay Bt50,000 compensation to former senator Chirmsak Pinthong for failing to deploy a metal detector at Nakhon Si Thammarat Airport.The court said Chirmsak had to be compensated for worry he faced when taking a Nok Air flight out of the airport on August 16. The former senator feared the flight may not be safe given there was no metal detector to check things passengers carried into the aircraft. Unhappy with what he perceived as lax security measures, Chirmsak lodged a complaint against the Department and Nok Air demanding Bt5.5 million in compensation.

The case was the first filed under the Consumer Case Procedure Act, which took effect on August 23 to allow consumers to sue more conveniently. Chirmsak lodged the complaint on August 25. "My case took only four months and the court summons witnesses by itself," the former senator said yesterday.

He encouraged other consumers to protect their rights just like him.

Ruling on Chirmsak's case, the Civil Court ordered the Aviation Department to pay Bt50,000 compensation to Chirmsak.

Walailak University borrowed the metal detector from Nakhon Si Thammarat Airport for use during its conferral ceremony, and returned the device on August 15. But airport staff did not start using it again till August 17. The court has acquitted Nok Air on grounds that airliner's duty is only to provide aircraft.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2008/12/18...al_30091259.php

By Kesinee Taengkiew

The Nation - December 18, 2008

If Chirmsak Pinthong gets Bt50,000 compensation, what about the other passengers on the same plane (and other flights around that time). Must the court treat all man/woman equally? I guess everyone else can file exactly the same claim, to get exactly the same compensation.

Sorry the South will have to wait.

Mark V has promise money to Newin's North-East now.

If they really want to punish Thaksin then sign up to the international court tomorrow.... imho

You must be the International Court salesman. Have you forgotten by Thai quit? With the border issue pending, going back to IC will loose face.

For gods sake no.... I did not say that I said he was the only one punished.... The whole lot should be punished.... law aplies both ways right?

The law does NOT apply both way. 6 RED will be arrested and sentenced soon. The YELLOW walks free from capturing Govt House , Don Muang & Swampy. Does the law still applies both ways?

Back in March coalition partners got cold feet when PAD took to the streets and PPP withdrew, temporarily. Later on the issue was raised again and again, testing protest limits. Eventually PPP got Weng's draft proposal that could have been voted in at any time.

If not for Parliament blockade they would have done it.

Do you think if PAD had once a month gatherings at Sanam Luang it would have persuaded PPP to drop the rewrite? Not a chance. Tthe fact is that even losing the govt house didn't stop the government, even losing the airport.

Do you need quotes from Samak saying that PAD protests are nothing, that he was going to ignore them. They were saying the same thing after PAD started live-in protests, they said the same thing after they lost the govt house, Somchai even set himself a new office, totally ignoring PAD.

In return PAD upped the ante with every govt move, gradually increasing the pressure until something else gave in - the courts. One thing is clear - PAD didn't have enough pressure to force the govt hand. I repeat - it was not ENOUGH.

However, shuting down Swampy & Don Muang has enough power to force any govt, court, PM, Thaksin, god, godess, you name it.

Court Issues Arrest Warrants for 6 Pro-PPP Protesters

Arrest warrants have been issued for 6 members of the red shirt protesters who threw rocks and bricks at vehicles carrying MPs as they were leaving Parliament on Monday.

A large number of red shirt or pro-PPP supporters gathered in front of Parliament on Monday to observe the nomination of the new premier. They later reacted angrily to Democrat Party Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva being voted as the 27th premier of Thailand.

The protesters shouted abuses at the MPs who voted for Abhisit while they were leaving Parliament. Some threw rocks and unidentified liquid, believed to be acid, at the passing vehicles carrying Democrats and non-PTP MPs. Several Democrats MPs sustained minor injuries.

- TOC / 2008-12-18

Ha ha. This is what you get is you don't have backers like PAD.

Serve them right for not wearing yellow.

So does anyone have any idea if Abhisit's government will meet the PAD criteria and if they dont what the PAD will do or are we just going to turn this thread into another degenerate mutant where without reading the thread title it is impossible to know the subject by just reading the insults, flames, rants and sanctimonious outrage?

The PAD has served it's purpose. They will be leashed or put to sleep, depending upon whether their masters think there may be a need for it again in the near future.

Leashed, I'd say, probably till after the b(u)y-elections that should be held in Jan.(?) I think?

For the PAD now two things,

1.Prosecuted in the criminal courts for their illegal activities at government house and the airports.

2.Sued in the civil courts to financially compenstate people for their losses in their illegal occupation of the airports.

You can sue as much as you like. As long as the court is with PAD (and their backers), it just won't stick. Dress themselve in YELLOW is like apply a coat of teflon. I better dye my remaining RED shirt to YELLOW now. Perhaps I may screen Sondhi face on it too. At least it will frighten Khmer ghosts after his used Kotex trick.

CNN interview Mark V. As usual Dan Rivers give Mark a hard time. But with his diplomatic charm and good English, Mark managed to pull through all right. Unlike Samak.

Yingluck Shinawatra vs Sarah Palin. Who do you think is sexier when both in tight exploding buttons Thai uni uniform?