gargamon

You expect Trump's minions to make the numbers look worse? You've been watching too much Faux News.

The tariff hits on the job market and the stock market have not yet begun. Give it a couple of months.

Yeah, everybody in the band had a long beard, except for the guy whose last name was Beard. Sort of ironic if you think about it. Alanis, I've got another verse for you. Saw ZZ top 3 or 4 times. Great show.

Oh I must be so out of date. Is that like a Karen?

500 years ago, China destroyed its world-dominating navy because its political elite was afraid of free trade In the 1400s, China owned the greatest seagoing fleet in the world, up to 3,500 ships at its peak. (The U.S. Navy today has only 430). Some of them were five times the size of the ships being built in Europe at the time. But by 1525, all of China's "Treasure Fleet" ships had been destroyed -- burned in their docks or left to rot by the government. China had been poised to circumnavigate the globe decades before the Europeans did, but instead the Ming Dynasty retracted into itself and entered a 200-year-long slump. Few people in the West realize how economically and technologically advanced China was by the 1400s. The Treasure Fleet was vast -- some vessels were up to 120 metres long. (Christopher Columbus's Santa Maria was only 19 metres.) A Chinese ship might have several decks inside it, up to nine masts, twelve sails, and contain luxurious staterooms and balconies, with a crew of up to 1,500, according to one description. On one journey, 317 of these ships set sail at once. Under the command of the eunuch admiral Zheng He, the Chinese were routinely sailing to Africa and back decades before Columbus was even born. Yet they did not go on to conquer the world. Instead, the Chinese decided to destroy their boats and stop sailing West. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/500-years-ago-china-destroyed-its-worlddominating-navy-because-its-political-elite-was-afraid-of-free-trade-a7612276.html ------ Reminds me if something going in today but I just can't think of what it could be.

Or Covered Wagon

100 days is more than enough. It's all about the tariffs and how Trump's billionaire buddies ordered their overseas requirements before the tariffs came into effect.

Not long. The Orange Buffoon is blaming the market drop and the GDP cratering is due to Biden. Easily predicted that this would be the moron's response, and the cult will suck it up, as usual.

I prefer to do it at home so the little woman can enjoy it.

I worked in silicon valley through the dot com bubble. Lots of really smart people. Funny thing, though. None of the really smart people were Americans.

That will only happen if they get rid of all income tax and convert the government to running on tarrifs. That means everything costs significantly more and the billionaire/millionaire class, because they spend a significantly smaller percentage of their income on consumption, get a huge tax break.

We'll wait and see what the courts say, not the DOJ.

Eric

You lost money in the stock market under Clinton? The longest period of economic expansion in US history(until Obama that is), and you lost money? Not very good picking stocks are you? I would wager you stocks loss was under Bush in 2001.

And the real losers can get an agent to do it for them.

4GB means too small to be good quality?

Such quality tourists these days.

Got a link to that contract?

I don't find what you post funny either. Maybe it's not the GF.

I never believe anything until it's on Faux News.

Trump needs to get the F out of this negotiation. All he's doing is trying to make Ukraine surrender. He's got no skin in the game. The US is no longer, I believe, providing armaments to Ukraine, abd if they are, it won't be for long. Ukraine, the EU, and the former USSR members need to unite to negotiate the peace terms. Screw the US and Trump.

Tastes like chicken.

A pic is worth a thousand words.

Republic

I won't disagree with that.