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13 minutes ago, Xircal said:
@ SgtRock, you were responding to nausea's post which is why I've quoted them both. But are you saying that Fillon has a criminal conviction, or Juppe?
Juppe
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4 hours ago, Morch said:
Doesn't he realise that he doesn't need to keep campaigning now?
Analysis: Trump the president-elect: So far, acting a lot like Trump the candidate
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-questions-20161127-story.html
Thank you fore sharing this article...
" In the interview, Trump also admitted that he already had mixed business and political talk in some discussions with foreign leaders.."No ethics, no morals, no values, no problems !
Everything is fine in the best of worlds
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Electoral College is ‘vestige’ of slavery, say some Constitutional scholars :
"When the founders of the U.S. Constitution in 1787 considered whether America should let the people elect their president through a popular vote, James Madison said that “Negroes” in the South presented a “difficulty … of a serious nature.”
"While slavery was abolished, and the Civil War led to citizenship and voting rights for black people, the Electoral College remained intact. Another law professor, who has also written that the Constitution is pro-slavery, argues that it gave states the autonomy to introduce discriminatory voting laws, despite the Voting Rights Act of 1965 that was built to prevent it."
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/electoral-college-slavery-constitution/
How the Electoral College Rigged the Election for Donald Trump
America's electoral system gives smaller, more conservative states more weight – and that benefited Trump
"So Donald Trump was right about the system being rigged. There are and always have been attempts to reform this system – un-rig it if you will – but those are likely to go nowhere in the near (nor possibly distant) future. "
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1 hour ago, SgtRock said:
It does not really matter who I think will be president.
What matters is the French electorate.
Brexit was catastrophic.
Trump was catastrophic.
Can you see the pattern ?
The fact that F. Rillon won this "primary" does not predict the outcome of the presidential election.
Because - as it is also the case for the left - those who voted for the primaries can be ranked among the "included" much more than the "excluded".
And - as Brexit - and Trump election - show , the latter have the key to the presidential election in their hands.
Millenials turnout also matters
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On 26/11/2016 at 1:32 PM, JAG said:
If the recount confirms that Trump won those states then the will of the people in those states will have been restated.
If the recount finds that Trump did not win those states after all then the will of the people will have been correctly recognised.
Either way it isn't going to be overturned is it?
In Russia less time is lost : the results are known precisely in advance
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9 hours ago, NickJ said:
THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE..
How on earth do you explain it?
It's one of those things, that if it works for Yeah!!!!
I have tried to explain it to non Americans. over and over again.
Let's start, with any given Presidential election night.
We see John King from CNN coining the phrase over and over...Looking for a Path.
Well, As it is. The best way to summarize the electoral college, to me. Is to Look at the color of the map itself as votes are counted.
Ask yourself this. how happy would you be if you were a voting American. to see that only big cities mean anything. in no time without the EC. we would see only areas of population density matter in elections.
Wow....in a welfare state. we would be another Argentina.
Generalizations of consensus mixed with a federal law including the say so of States.
Well. No Wonder it worked so well.
But finally, the EC system makes it a little useless to vote when your party is strongly minority in a state (hence the importance of "swing states" in the election campaign). It also means that a vote does not have the same weight on the final result depending on where you vote . This can incite turnout or dicourage some people from voting.
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If D. Trump loses, the election is rigged. If he wins, do not recount. To read about the NYT, the story of Trump's lies in Scotland when building the so-called biggest golf in the world with several hotels and thousands of jobs at the key in a natural reserve. The result is less than 100 jobs, 20 rooms, a wall built at the expense of neighbors and the feeling of being fooled from start to end. http://goo.gl/1d036c
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When I read Strange's posts , I can only hope D. Trump turns America into a huge gated community.
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A company controlled by D. Trump , secretly conducted business in Communist Cuba during Fidel Castro’s presidency despite strict American trade bans that made such undertakings illegal, according to interviews with former Trump executives, internal company records and court filings.
http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-cuban-embargo-castro-violated-florida-504059?rm=eu
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On 16/11/2016 at 9:48 AM, Emster23 said:
Which French writer said, more or less "The law in it's infinite fairness punishes rich and poor alike for sleeping under bridges"?
Right !
Anatole France (1844-1924)
more or less : "The law, with a great concern for equality, forbids rich as well as poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread."
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52 minutes ago, Silurian said:
Even more on 'squeakie clean' Bannon. Seems like Bannon and Donald like to create charities to benefit themselves.
"Bannon actually created this “nonpartisan charitable institute” for the express purpose of paying himself and other writers at the extremely partisan, and absolutely for profit, Breitbart News."
Steve Bannon created a 'nonpartisan charity' to funnel money from billionaires to Breitbart
Thank you for sharing this link. , a must read!
" Donald Trump and Steve Bannon have more in common than just denying their connection to white supremacists: they both broke charity laws for their own benefit...
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recording obtained by The Washington Post captures what New York reporters and editors who covered Trump’s early career experienced in the 1970s, ’80s and ’90s: calls from Trump’s Manhattan office that resulted in conversations with “John Miller” or “John Barron” — public-relations men who sound precisely like Trump himself — who indeed are Trump, masquerading as an unusually helpful and boastful advocate for himself, according to the journalists and several of Trump’s top aides.
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20 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:
Good article, I wish it had been longer.
So do I!
There was link within the article " How the most ideologically polarized Americans live different lives, Pew Research Center dated 2012 . and the comments are interesting too
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Political Segregation Is Growing and 'We're Living With the Consequences'
Author Bill Bishop, who has spent years studying America's urban-rural divide, discusses what it means for politics and progress " We do seem to be splitting into two Americas, where people can't comprehend the politics on the other side"
" ...politics now is about identity and self expression and not about policy. That's what a lot of people miss. This really wasn't about policy decisions. This was about social identity, which is why the sorting took place to begin with."
http://www.governing.com/topics/politics/gov-bill-bishop-interview.html
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1 hour ago, Silurian said:
Yeah, that Bannon dude is squeakie clean! He must have joined this Facebook Group by accident. Probably saw a good recipe for chicken pot pie.
Here's Evidence Steve Bannon Joined a Facebook Group That Posts Racist Rants and Obama Death Threats
This is not free speech, this is Incitement to racial hatred.
I hope someday someone will air the discussions and meetings when Bannon coaches D. Trump, during the campaign and mandate .. just for History.
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33 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:
Perhaps he's wealthy and confident enough to have changed?
I doubt it too, but am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until we see his policies on becoming President.
Wealthy and confident, yes - but qualified?
Just think of that : right after he won the elections, he had his very first meeting with a foreign leader, Japan's Abe : " Experts expressed surprise that Trump did not request a State Department briefing before his meeting— but had Ivanka and Kushner in the room. Seeking counsel might have appeared all the more pertinent since Trump had alarmed Tokyo policymakers during his campaign by musing about pulling the thousands of US troops from the region and suggesting that officially pacifist Japan may need nuclear weapons."
https://naijadailyfeed.wordpress.com/2016/11/19/trump-makes-transition-to-power-a-family-affair/
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14 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:
Its obviously true that politicians should have no interest in their own businesses etc., but this never really happens.
If he moves his children out of the political world and says that they are running his businesses - who would believe him? Certainly not me.
Its irrelevant anyway as we're all waiting to see what happens after he becomes President. Will he pursue policies that are beneficial to wealthy businesses, or will he pursue policies that benefit those who voted for him?
Meanwhile, I'm getting tired of the bias shown by whoever is selecting the headlines/threads - and the bias is very obvious not only in this case (Trump being elected), but also in the Europe/Brexit threads
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this is not the only concern one reasonably can have about his presidency - in the continuation of his campaign- so, if there is no ethics at the very head of the Administration, you can not pretend to drain the swamp.
"when you sweep the stairs, you start from the top" ( Amish proverb)
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12 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:
All 15 of them and since Trump has repeatedly denounced these nutters, he will not even have them.
The whole imaginary scenario sounds like a load of tosh though.
Richard Spencer ( white supremacist) , who has called for “peaceful ethnic cleansing”, says he dreams of a "new society, an ethno-state that would be a gathering point for all Europeans".
he adds: “I think that Donald Trump is the kind of first step toward this new kind of politics that I’ve been outlying. It’s maybe the first awkward, maybe vulgar step in that direction.
“I think that’s a very good thing. And I think Donald Trump has appealed to the right people around the world,"
Steve Bannon, Mr Trump's chief strategist, is probably the most high-profile figure to be associated with the alt-right
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/richard-spencer-white-nationalist-leading-alt-right-movement/
We have three major voter suppression operations under way,” an unnamed senior campaign official told Bloomberg.A focus on Clinton’s WikiLeaks e-mails is dedicated to turning away young white former supporters of Sen. Bernie Senders (I-VT); highlighting women who have accused Bill Clinton of sexual misconduct is aimed at undermining her appeal with young women; and her 1996 reference to some black gang members as “superpredators” is meant to suppress the vote among African American voters.
“What he’s built is the underlying apparatus for a political movement that’s going to propel us to victory on Nov. 8 and dominate Republican politics after that,” Bannon told Bloomberg.
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D.Trump will "load the mule" of his predecessor with the ten plagues of Egypt
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" It is “desirable,” Alexander Hamilton wrote in Federalist 68, “that the sense of the people should operate in the choice of” president. But is “equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station.” These “men”—the electors––would be “most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.” And because of their discernment—because they possessed wisdom that the people as a whole might not—“the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.”
So EC has to do what needs to be done, what it was meant for !
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26 minutes ago, Xircal said:
They can say lots of things, but we live in the digital age now and with apps like Signal - recommended by Edward Snowdon incidentally - communicating secretly without leaving any trace affords the Trump family ample opportunity to communicate with their father and get hold of some spicy tips on how to capitalize on forthcoming foreign or domestic policy changes which will add a few more million $$$ to the Trump kitty.
I'm sure Trump has thought of that too and being an avaricious individual he's unlikely to allow the opportunity pass him by.
Right ... brains are not as waterproof as M. Pence seems to believe..
There will be leaks,
There will be insider trading
There will be conflict of interest
but as D. Trump says : lawsuits are part of the costs for running business ..
Because we are talking about big big big business, America. inc under Trump.inc governance
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1 hour ago, Silurian said:
Not only woefully unfit but also woefully uncommitted to performing presidential duties. Donald doesn't even attend the daily presidential briefings. No worries...Pence is attending them.
Donald Trump Has Attended Only Two Intelligence Briefings
Quote from your link " At the time, Trump told Hewitt he'd learn the difference between the two ( Hamas - Hezbollah) "when it's appropriate," and boasted, "I will know more about it than you know." "And believe me, it won't take me long," he added.
and it's the same for everything, he'll need coaching for every single subject..there is no room for improvisation, . 1 term is not enough
D. Trump thinks he is a genius because he simply has no idea of the depth of his ignorance.
At 70 and + a few notions should have at least sedimented - Hamas and Hezbollah ...
Never mind ... Trump:" I'd love to make Israel-Palestine peace deal"
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/trump-love-israel-palestine-peace-deal-161123060008778.html
The rest of the world must not let him be leader of the free world .
POTUS but only POTUS
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58 minutes ago, Xircal said:
His ego won't let him resign. He's a borne and bred narcissist who thrives on adulation and flattery. Give up being photographed with all those business leaders and heads of state who will be coming to meet him both before and after his inauguration? No way, baby.
From the link you shared :
Vice President-elect Mike Pence said: “I’m very confident that the President-elect and his extraordinary talented family are going to work with the best legal minds in this country and create the proper separation from their business enterprise during his duties as President of the United States.”
I guess everyone working for this administration will have to be totally in line.
Or is M. Pence always so oily? "extraordinary talented family "
Too much flattery is like insult to your intelligence ...
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17 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:
" I mentioned, months ago, that Trump would mandate that his biz properties be used for housing/entertaining domestic and foreign guests, at government expense. He can do what he did with Trump Towers: charge 5 to 10 times market rates for rooms/entertainment venues, and bill to taxpayers. Who's going to challenge that? Days ago, he rec'd a gift from Japanese prez - a golf club valued at around $5,000. Trump would just laugh at the tiny dollar value, but it's the principle: The president is not allowed to personally accept gifts from foreign government agents. .....and that's just what surfaced. What about the hundreds/thousands of gifts & special treatment for business deals he will be getting - above board, and under the table, in ensuing months.
Trump fans either didn't see the massive corruption coming, or don't care. He can do no wrong in their view.
Yes
Trump's campaign paid his businesses $8.2 million. The GOP presidential candidate draws on his own companies to an unprecedented degree.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-business-campaign-trail-228500
"In 2000 Donald Trump told Fortune magazine, “It’s very possible that I could be the first presidential candidate to run and make money on it.”
During this primary season, Donald Trump made a point of not taking outside donations, but now he is. Some of Trump’s campaign money is making its way back to the candidate himself, because unlike any other candidate in modern history, Trump is using his businesses for his campaign."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-businesses-profit-off-presidential-campaign-money/
and quote from an other thread -Obama: Trump ‘woefully unfit’ to be President
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16 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:
It seems Trump has no plans on leaving the swamp, much less draining it.
Donald Trump Raises Prospect of Keeping Ties to His Firms
Donald Trump indicated Tuesday he was unlikely to disentangle himself from his business empire as fully as he previously suggested, raising questions about potential conflicts of interest while president.
Mr. Trump and his representatives said during the campaign he would have nothing to do with his businesses if he became president, promising a “total and complete separation.”
On Tuesday, Mr. Trump told the New York Times that “the law’s totally on my side” and that “the president can’t have a conflict of interest.”
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-raises-prospect-of-keeping-ties-to-his-firms-1479860954
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How the Trump Organization's Foreign Business Ties Could Upend U.S. National Security
Almost every foreign policy decision D.Trump will make will raise serious conflicts of interest and ethical quagmires."The Trump family rakes in untold millions of dollars from the Trump Organization every year. Much of that comes from deals with international financiers and developers, many of whom have been tied to controversial and even illegal activities."This article by Newsweek of last September explains well the situation in which he finds himself and in which he places the country he'll be at the head of:http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-foreign-business-deals-national-security-498081?rm=eu
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Alain Juppe recognises defeat by Francois Fillon in French Republican primaries
in World News
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actually it was not my post , but SgtRock's one
I just gave the answer