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27 minutes ago, scammed said:you must think im an american liberal,
i dont care much for US domestic politics but
the trump bashing around covid is nonsense
To hold Trump accountable for his non sensical ideas about COVID-19 is not bashing.
To make life and death decisions based on his sole self-interest to be reelected is what brings us to discuss about US domestic politics.
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8 minutes ago, scammed said:
i think the quarantine policy got it 180 degree wrong,
if you are going to quarantine anyone, do it with the infected, new arrivals,
and possibly those at risk.
NY did instead quarantine to productive population, and then sent the infected to nursing homes
bristling with dying old folks, what could possibly go wrong with both economy & the dying ?
And what do you suggest for undetected asymptomatic infected who are the productive super spreaders?
Would everyone be tested like Trump and his entourage, then you'd be right, is it the case?
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I have come to the conclusion that Logosone isn't German.
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"Meet the Youngest Person Executed for Defying the Nazis. When Helmuth Hübener learned the truth about Nazi Germany, he spread the word—and paid the ultimate price.
https://www.history.com/news/meet-the-youngest-person-executed-for-defying-the-nazis
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22 minutes ago, Logosone said:
Dey was not guilty of anything. He was a tower guard. He killed nobody. Yet he is convicted of 5000 plus murders? And nobody bats an eyelid?
"As a result of the Demjanjuk precedent, guards who worked at death camps could be charged with abetting, contributing to, or being complicit in the killings that took place there."
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59 minutes ago, Logosone said:
“The eyewitness accounts and expert reports have for the first time made me fully aware of the extent of cruelty and suffering,” Dey said. So he was not aware of what was going on, he did not know there were gas chambers until this was explained to him. Then he would have put two and two together after the fact that the screams came from the gas chambers. At the time he heard them different explanations would have been more obvious to him, who had no idea of the extent of the final solution at that time.
No. He is acknwoledging that he did not fully realized "the extent of cruelty and suffering" until his 9 week trial, the eyewitness accounts etc... which means that he spent his whole life after WWII ended without even being fully aware, which says a lot about the man who worked in a concentration camp. As you say "people die" in camps. So he never listened to testimonies of people who survived, never heard of Primo Levi, probably was not even interested.
http://msmulhollandonline.weebly.com/uploads/7/9/3/4/7934993/primo_levi_if_this_is_a_man.pdf
"“Consider if this is a man…”: the imperative issued by Levi’s text is thus not that one should persist in seeing the human in the inhuman. It is more like its opposite: that one bear must witness to the inhuman in the human. And that our humanity in some sense depends on this."
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2 hours ago, Fairynuff said:He passed a dementia test. (Just)
"Trump Has a Nuclear Arsenal—and Can Remember Five Whole Words" (article from the DB)
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12 minutes ago, Logosone said:No, he most likely did not see people actually being killed. The camps were large complexes. The killing was done in secret obviously. Chimney's were connected to "crematoria". Unless you knew what was going on there you'd think people were being cremated, ie those who died naturally. He was only 17. He did not serve on the Eastern front. He wouldn't have heard rumours of mass killings.
"He acknowledged hearing screams from the camp's gas chambers and watching as corpses were taken to be burned, but he said he never fired his weapon and once allowed a group to smuggle meat from a dead horse they'd discovered back into the camp."
https://www.euronews.com/2020/07/23/nazi-concentration-camp-guard-bruno-dey-93-convicted-in-germany
never too late...
"On the penultimate day in court, earlier this week, he issued an apology: “The eyewitness accounts and expert reports have for the first time made me fully aware of the extent of cruelty and suffering,” Dey said. "
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4 hours ago, Logosone said:Of course it matters, he didn't even know at the time what was going on at the camp behind closed doors. He was just a tower guard.
the OP states: "between August 1944 and April 1945"... do you really believe what you are saying?
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1 hour ago, checkered flag said:The illiberal wackos want to blame Trump for not helping and when he does they blame him anyway. They are totally blinded by their politics and don't care about society and/people. Given the choice Trump has done the right thing for everyone.
Too bad Trump did'nt use the federal level coodination at the very beginning of the pandemic when the hotspots were mainly in blue States, he could have done the right thing fo everyone, blue or red.
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18 hours ago, CLS said:
What a patriot! Macron is wearing a mask with the French flag.
Macron wears 100% "Made in France" reusable mask., just like when he visited a school
I see no reason to criticize him for supporting and promoting french manufacturing, therefore french jobs.
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9 hours ago, Cryingdick said:
At this point West would be as good as anybody. Why not?
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6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
He also likes the Confederate flag.... So he's got that going for him....
So thus far, he's aligned himself with Putin, Duterte, Kim, white nationalists and the U.S.'s history of Southern slavery, racism and insurrection... What's next???
+ The Ostrich Alliance
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12 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Last presidential election poll I saw showed Trump with a 40% or so standing, trailing Biden by double digits... Have 40% of Americans literally gone insane???
not insane but perhaps because Trump is the caricature of what they think Americans are, compared to the rest of the world: the best ever, greatest in everything, tremendously powerful - pause, rewind and replay ... nothing is questionable.... "History repeats itself, 1st as tragedy, 2nd as farce"
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1 minute ago, Sujo said:
She will most probably be in jail. But thats a seperate matter.
where she'll be given all consideration as a heroine both for joining ISIS and defeating the UK, and in position to spread ISIS ideology back home.. that's how the plan works when you compromise
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8 minutes ago, Sujo said:Because she is born and bred UK citizen. Why should bangladesh want any involvement.
with very good reasons .. " women’s role in Islamic State. Women were active propagandists, recruiters, ideologues, supporters of current warriors and producers of the next generation. They were involved in the abuse of other women, whether enslaved Yazidis, or in the al-Khansaa brigade, which policed women. "
these returnees presented as victims give us the middle finger. .
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Organize a referendum.
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https://za.usembassy.gov/the-passing-of-u-s-congressman-john-lewis/
Ambassador Lana Marks Statement - July 18, 2020
"Today, as we celebrate Nelson Mandela and Mandela Day, we also mourn the passing of U.S. Congressman John Lewis, whose life was similarly dedicated to working toward racial equality. From marching with Martin Luther King Jr.to his visits to South Africa, John Lewis spoke often of the ties of solidarity and struggle between the United States and South Africa.
Please take a moment to hear him describe the echoes of the American civil rights movement he heard in Johannesburg during his 1994 visit.
Rest in peace and in power, John Lewis."
"International leaders paid homage to the late Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), signifying the global reach of the civil rights leader’s legacy."
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Is she feeling so homesick that she wants her stripped UK citizenship back or is it for the benefits attached to the status ?
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22 minutes ago, teatime101 said:Are you American? Maybe if she open carried an AR15 it would be OK?
She was 15 when she left the UK. 15.
She made the political choice, living in the UK, to pledge loyalty to ISIS, it's not exactly like running away with a boyfriend
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5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:
Remind us, what did Magna Carta say about ‘Banishment’, Exile’ and the ‘Right to come and go without let or hinder’?
I'll remind you that she is not just a devious ISIS housewife, she served in the "ISIS morality police", was allowed to carry a Kalashnikov rifle, and also tried to recruit other young women to join the jihadist group, She puts Sharia first, to be clear.
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12 hours ago, nemo38 said:
What do you do when there are millions of them in the country already, with the law entrenching them, and anti free speech laws and conventions that stop you discussing the problem?
"During an official meeting on Islamic-Christian dialogue, an authoritative Muslim person, speaking to the Christians participating, at one point said very calmly and assuredly: "Thanks to your democratic laws we will invade you; thanks to our religious laws we will dominate you."
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6 hours ago, possum1931 said:
She may have been born in Britain, but she left to join a terrorist group, her and her kind are not wanted by the vast majority of British people.
she puts Sharia law above Magna Carta - so britiish
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13 hours ago, bert bloggs said:
we are stuck with her for life
* family, kids, etc, all the smala
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U.S. coronavirus deaths top 150,000 as economy suffers further
in World News
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It makes the difference when it comes to his own health.
"I personally think testing is overrated, even though I created the greatest testing machine in history," (Trump)
https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/trump-coronavirus-testing-is-overrated-makes-us-look-bad-2020-6