mania

Hey Gomyway very nice mods you did there.

Very similar to what I would do myself as you addressed

all the important thing like suspension/braking & power in an orderly fashion

On the front I am getting ready to order some 80kg springs. rear suspension seems fine for now.

I was surprised by your swingarm!

I did not catch that when I looked at your bike pic but now see a nice extruded swingarm there. Very good

You make me jealous with those Brembo 2 & 4 pot calipers

If 15% is average diff between crank & rear wheel hp your doing good power to weight wise too.

Pretty much equal to the new 300 at 0.09

Well thanks for posting & the info on the woodcrafts

very nice to read what your running there

mania which bike is yours, the red one?

Looks nice, what I would like to know is could you get the clip-ons under the triple clamp also?

That is one thing more I would like to do at mine, get them deeper. But therefore I have to change the fairings and I don't know a company for this.

Now I have them (the clip-ons from Woodcraft) installed 50mm deeper, 25mm more inside and 30mm more to the front then oem handles.

May I ask you a favor please? If so, would you please take a look in the manual of yours and tell me the timing of the new ones ignition?

Thank you very much and have a safe ride all times.

Thanks & yes the red one but I have removed those clip ons & no they could not mount under the triple tree.

Also the overall design was not good/safe IMO as the bolt was single to lock the bar end to the main

Woodcraft does make some nice ones but they are about 7k. as far as I have seen here

But they come in various rises so good

The problem with the Mazrianos I had is I needed to drop the fork legs a good 3/4 inch which changed the handling

too much IMO

Timing on the new model ( My Thai reading is not great )

is I believe 10 degrees BTDC @ 1300 rpm & 39 degrees BTCD @ 4000 rpm

hope that helps...I think that is not much different than the older bikes right?

Hey when you have a chance list your mods here would be interesting to hear what you have done too.

besides this thread is slow

Edward Snowden's father writes open letter to NSA whistleblower in Moscow

As regards your reduction to de facto statelessness occasioned by the Executive Branch to penalize your alleged violations of the Espionage Act, the United States Supreme Court lectured in Trop v. Dulles (1958): "The civilized nations of the world are in virtual unanimity that statelessness is not to be imposed as punishment for crime."

Coming off the R6 it would be nice to hear your impressions

after you have some mile on the R1.

I did the same step but on Honda RR's back home.

Would like to hear your thoughts if you have time later

Every one of those leftist South American presidents, the five or so of 'em, know the US has issued a warrant for Snowden's arrest and that the Department of Justice has filed espionage charges against him in U.S. District Court, that Snowden is a fugitive from justice.

What more does a good neighbor country need to know?

Well I guess it is good for others to know these new rules

for asylum seekers.

That way if they should also need to divert a presidential plane

they too without evidence can fall back on this one as precedence.

I bet the Hollywood filmmakers are licking their lips on this one wondering

why they couldn't have thought of such an intriguing comedy to write

Mr snowflake how I can contact with u pls let me know and send me ur contact no ASAP

He is offline at the moment but you can send him a message

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=members&module=messaging&section=send&do=form&fromMemberID=36728

Based on Pres Morales own statements that he would cheerfully aid and abet a fugitive from justice, made before and while he was in Moscow. He'd been in Moscow as recently as yesterday

So an international warrant has in fact finally been issued on Snowden?

I must have missed that.

I will put you down as acceptable then

Deaths what???

Sorry I was just joking/parody about this other post earlier in the thread

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/650743-how-come-it-is-so-difficult-to-sell-a-big-bike/#entry6570273

A Plane carrying a President of a country regardless of how large or small a country

is diverted from its flight plan & forced to land.

Based on?

Acceptable?

Isn't the R1 also available from Yamaha dealers in Thailand?

Or is it a matter of Thai versions being restricted power wise & Red Baron having full power?

Just curious

What will Bolivia do to retaliate? Send more cocaine?

Yeah their just a little country screw them....right?

You've only posted this add on the forum and not on the classified site? I also scanned through the bahtsold and your bike isn't there? I think you'd get more hits on that site.

Yup what he said

Baht & Sold & also

If you cannot write Thai have someone help you put it on mocyc.com & the Ninja650 Thai sites

It will sell at the price you have it at now. Just be aware Thai's really need to ask if you can make the price

lower no matter how low it is So maybe up it 5k knowing you will drop that.

Congrats nice R1 !

Agree with Joe on break in

or basically everything said here

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

The sky is falling!

It appears Washington agrees with you

i have seen a couple of sales like this one in the past year or so. I wonder what these people were thinking when they bought the bike.

Yes same thing I thought. Very expensive test ride.

They could have rented one for 1000 baht & put 5x the mileage on it.

Someone selling a week old 500x with only 90km on the odo?

http://classifieds.thaivisa.com/automotives-vehicles/motorcycles/cb500x-for-sale-230742.html

Scorpion released their slip on for the CBR500 X & F

Looks a bit long & dated IMHO

Maybe the integral mount & lack of strap makes it look longer?

Scorpion have released the Serket on Honda's new CBR 500R.
Power + 1.1 BHP
Weight - 1.7kg
This also fits CB 500F & CB 500X and is available now.

This Snowden story is confusing for American tea party types: do they dislike Obama more than they dislike Americans intentionally harming American security?

American Security?

More like American citizens rights to privacy

Actually as it unfolds more like anyone in the world right to privacy

Security? No way not one utterance of anything resembling strategic information

that could weaken security

Your right about dislike of Obama though especially now.

But hey who knew "Yes We Can" meant this ?

Hi mania,

thank you for your interest in my bike.

So here's a picture of my Ninja.

Wow !

Very Nice Gomyway !

That high pipe has a nice tone to it too.

Hey thanks Gomyway that is some very interesting info about the ignition advance.

Regarding timing or ignition advance I know Power Commander has a module for theirs but

Area P chose not to go that route.

Here is a quote of the owners thinking on the matter...

Thanks again for the info & would love to see a pic of your bike too!

We normally stay away from altering timing on most modern street bike/street driven applications. It simply opens up too many possible bad scenarios of tune. Excessive timing can be the most frequent cause of detonation, which makes bad things happen to your engine (like when you start seeing aluminum speckles on your spark plugs...). It can also have a really obvious effect on performance in the wrong tuners hands. So we focus on A/F mapping in most cases, which will be based on the oem/stock ignition curve. We want to assure maximum reliability and longevity on street bikes.

That being said - on a Racebike, it's common that we may/will adjust the timing based on the compression, fuel being used (unleaded, leaded, oxygen content, octane, etc.) and so on, before we attempt to really get the baseline FI mapping we create to yield the optimum power output. But this also depends on so many things as well; how the rider utilizes the throttle, is he off/on, smooth, etc., and how long at full load/WOT. We can take more chances and experiment more; simply because we accept that we will be taking engines apart frequently to diagnose the results of our experimenting and the riders’ abuse of it . This is where that delicate balance is of what we see on the Dyno, to what actually occurs on the race track.

mania, may I ask you please how Kerry will do the mapping for you, will you send your bike to him?

I think the 250 is different to the 300, since from the 2008 - 2012 you already have 3 different map-versions for the FI only.

And from the 300 the mapping from Europe to America isn't the same also.

No actually that is the tie in with Fuel Moto

Basically you allow access to your computer after uploading info

off the bike via the USB

Tell them what your needing or feel needs improving & they work

the map right there on your computer.

You may also do your own tinkering with the included with purchase software

if you feel so inclined or even just

describe what you need & they email you the map.

My problem will be pinpointing as no dynos are available in Chiangmai.

For some reason Big wing here says Honda only

Between the 300 & 250 here the biggest diff is a few mm of stroke & a slipper clutch.

Of course that changes things but still most FI vehicles can be improved upon thru tuning in this fashion

Even if you add nothing in the way of increased intake or exhaust flow you can clean up throttle response.

I have changed both intake & exhaust but am now back on stock exhaust while I look for something more to my taste db wise.

But yes with the less displacement torque/power curves etc will be slightly different.

I actually like the number on the 250 better in Bore x Stroke ratio & wish Kawasaki had instead increase bore

to get a 300. It would have retained a characteristic I look for in a bike.

The B/S ratio of the 250 is 150 & the 300 dropped to 126 because they increased stroke instead of bore.

Also dropped compression ratio from 11.3:1 to 10.6:1 & 28mm throttle bodies compared to 32's on 300

But I know many these days seek a more city type bike with more torque. I am just not one of them.

At least not in a 250/300/400cc bike

Anyway here is the exact quote from Area P's site & link

http://areapnolimits.com/products/Slip-On-Exhaust-Kawasaki-Ninja-300-2013.php

We have an extensive map support system and warranty that sets a new industry standard (the Micro Programmer comes with a two year warranty). For those who may not wish to experiment with the Tuning features included on the CD in the kit, you can simply contact us and explain what your particular bike is doing or not doing within your riding conditions and/or state-of-tune. We can then make changes to your specific map and e-mail it to you as part of our support system. Or, you can take advantage of our live “Offsite Tuning Support”. In simple terms, we can access/log onto to your computer that you have the map up on, and make adjustments in real time! This particular feature will be done through Fuel Moto and support will cover all Area P and Fuel Moto maps with purchase of the Micro Programmer.

• Very small and easy to mount (1/3 smaller than a Dynojet PC-V)
• Includes USB Cable, CD ROM Software, easy to follow instructions
• Multiple Map Storage which can be switched on the unit
• Computer and/or Faceplate Map adjustments
• Pre-programming available for your specific modifications
• Two Year Warranty
• Map Support exclusively through Area P and Fuel Moto
• Live Offsite Tuning Support (Fuel Moto only)

They just released their High Pipe exhaust & it looks pretty good too.

Sadly it loses the passenger pegs though

But it is really a top end pipe & gives up some middle which I rather keep myself.

i am in Thailand and it opens for me

+1

Didn't he use a flash stick at work and move the information to his computer at home?

Yes he used thumb drives

While I do not agree with what the NSA does ( if these reports are all true )

I do understand that network specialists are usually allowed thumb drive.

Reason being that in large systems administrators & specialist use thumb drives

for various tasks both on & off site as required.

That is where is it gets complicated. If the NSA will conduct such acts they will now need

people intelligent enough to screen all drives coming & going. BUT there will always be a need

for admins to have access. When wrong is perceived to exceed justifiable right there will always be

folks like Snowden who will stop, turn & say Enough.

It is IMHO what defines America