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if true, it would seem that Snowden is still holding a weapon.

If what he is holding is proof that millions of innocent American citizens have

had their liberties stolen then ironically I would have to agree it "was" a weapon.

But, A weapon not aimed at Terrorist or enemies of the USA. Unless the employers

aka: the citizens of the USA are now also targets alongside America's one time allies

such as Germany etc. ?

As long as it was kept in the dark it was a weapon

Now that it has been exposed hopefully it will be dismantled, As such Edward Snowden

may be the first real Patriot we have seen in a very long time.

“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.”

― Thomas Paine

This might be better

A long read to be sure but even the executive summary is good.

The Authors are listed as well as the methodology used to collect data

http://livingunderdrones.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Stanford_NYU_LIVING_UNDER_DRONES.pdf

I would pop in every now & then same as I do for KFC & Burger King

Although I pretty much always wonder why I did after I leave

Like KFC for instance...When I leave there I always think "well that was dumb"

because I could have had a whole grilled chicken for less from one of the many

BBQ stands with some sticky rice.

Burger King dont even get me started heheh

I dont know why I buy a cheeseburger from them

every two months or so. Really not that good & better is on offer from a place like Dukes here in CM

But you know sometimes I just think I feel like it & it is quick & easy & the air conditioning

is usually the clincher

But yes I would pop into Taco bell for a couple soft tacos & a burrito now & then if they were here.

"Now & Then" would be about once every month or two if that, like the other two chains I mentioned.

The link is interesting, but off-topic. Please post with the topic of this thread in mind.

Thanks Scott

That article does actually mention Pakistan specifically as an example.

I think a big question on many Americans mind regarding the use of Drones in

Pakistan is whether it is Constitutionally correct or to be allowed/financed

with tax dollars. Of course there are also other concerns collateral damages

being checked by whom etc.

Will try to keep as tightly the topic as possible

This article may help folks

understand whether using drones in Pakistan is to be considered

constitutionally correct. Meaning allowed to be waged or decided without a formal declaration

of war approved by Congress.

http://www.ponderpost.com/2010/10/constitution-war-congress-declares-president-wages/

Telephone or visit first is usually best.

As said many times throughout Thailand DLT offices have different requirements and they sometimes change them whenever they want, maybe its to do with what side of the bed the boss got out of or whose that particular morning.

Yes I agree Kwasaki & that is my plan for Monday morning

I could not get an appointment at the US consulate till Thursday anyway

So I will go & get the info just in case.

Last year they had a nice lady helping you sort thru your papers pre-counter

hope she is still there

Ah I see I was reading the requirements for renewal of a 1 year license on the 1st page of this topic.

I now see there is also a section on the 5yr license which is what I am after.

So, it seems maybe no medical report or cert of residence is needed?

Maybe I will just go in on Monday with everything else & ask.

For a 5 year you will need medical certificate, residence certificate and a non O visa or work permit. You will also need your old Thai licences.

So the rules from that other post that said no med cert have changed or are different for Chiang Mai now?

I realize that is an older post

I don't know about Chiang Mai now but when I lived there 4 years ago my residence certificate needed passport photos. You will need a residence certificate to get a driving licence anywhere, how will they know what address to put on the back of the licence?

I do already have a Thai Car & motorcycle license from Chiang Mai but it is 1yr only & just expired so thought maybe that was sufficient.

But looking at the list I posted I guess they want residence certified again

always a bit confusing here

Ok this person just went in April 2013 in Chiang Mai & the lady gave him this

sheet with the circled items as being needed

So I guess I will gather those up

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/630472-drivers-licence-renewal-5-years-up/#entry6325612

Ah I see I was reading the requirements for renewal of a 1 year license on the 1st page of this topic.

I now see there is also a section on the 5yr license which is what I am after.

So, it seems maybe no medical report or cert of residence is needed?

Maybe I will just go in on Monday with everything else & ask.

For a 5 year you will need medical certificate, residence certificate and a non O visa or work permit. You will also need your old Thai licences.

So the rules from that other post that said no med cert have changed or are different for Chiang Mai now?

I realize that is an older post

Ah I see I was reading the requirements for renewal of a 1 year license on the 1st page of this topic.
I now see there is also a section on the 5yr license which is what I am after.

So, it seems maybe no medical report or cert of residence is needed?
Maybe I will just go in on Monday with everything else & ask.

When I look at that I wonder where I'm gonna store it- I've got a bit of room, but that will take up an entire parking spot.

Try living in a condo

When I see you guys with garages & driveways I am

jealous

Here's one for 56K- non-folding and galvanized, but not bad- it's for dirt bikes, but they probably make a bigger version (I believe it's also made by Upbeat):

http://www.speedshopthailand.com/dirt-bike-trailer/

I don't know the price of this one- I tried called a couple times, but they never answered the phone- I would guess 50K:

http://www.carrymoretrailers.com/images/catalogue-750-atv-bike-rev2.jpg

That 2nd one is pretty clean looking build & appears to have fuel-can storage on the side behind the wheel.

Just renewed my 1 year at Rayong and didn't need passport photos for the residence certificate. They did however emphasise that it can only be used for a driving licence. Didn't re do the test either, he asked me about the colour test and then told my wife for me to just go and sit down and wait for my number to be called. The place was packed so he probably couldn't be bothered explaining how I was to use test equipment.

Thanks misterphil but I am confused by "didn't need passport photos for the residence certificate"

Do you mean you did not need either ( photos or residence cert )or did not need a photo to get a residence cert?

I usually get mine at the US consulate here & never need photos to get one.

But not sure if i am understanding you correctly

Thanks

Any recent experience of what is being required in Chiang Mai for 5 yr license?

Just notice my 1 yr for both car & bike expired on June 7th so I will be headed in

on Monday

Is the requirements on the first page of this topic still valid?

Mainly I want to know about the things that are needed from others

( Residence certificate & medical certificate )

browsing the topic is seems some ares not required so I was curious about Chiang Mai

If not I have no problem making copies of passport,TM etc

Thanks

@neversure: Thought you may be interested in the following that I have come across. Shows that Snowden must be very technology literate to get pass all the identity management and security systems, bet some IT management bums have been severely kicked and policy/procedures have been strengthened

NSA Director Keith Alexander told the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that Snowden fabricated digital keys that gave him access to areas way above his clearance as a low-level contractor and systems administrator.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/edward-snowden-copied-a-lot-of-nsa-files-2013-6#ixzz2YEaMSavq

I am a little leery of accepting any of these reports at this point.

They do seem to need to paint a picture of Snowden now that will further justify what

shall come.

On the one hand they first painted him as high school drop out, attention seeker,loser,slacker etc etc.

Now he is Tom Cruise from Mission Impossible?

Agreed, however someone on the other Honda thread is saying that in Europe Honda is charging $400-500 USD for the first 1000KM maintenance for Valve Clearance.

Ouch that must be a bit upsetting to be paying close to 10% of

the bikes retail price on your first maintenance check.

Hopefully Honda does the same there & offers a rebate.

These older generations, taken as group, are absolutely craven and self serving. I'll my hopes lie with the younger generations.

https://soundcloud.com/madiha-1/students-question-the-nsa-at

Very Good

When replying to the NSA Recruiter

Favorite Quote: "For Language analysts you are quite imprecise with your language"

If these are student grilling them like this, perhaps your right & there is hope for the younger folks

Snowden is more distraction than traitor

So as to not fall into that trap and since it is Independence Day (yes, I am sadly working), let's detail what we now know the US government does because of Snowden and others:

• Keeps a record of every cell phone call made.
• Keeps a record of all emails sent.
• Takes pictures of all the letters mailed in the US.
• Uses drones for domestic surveillance.
• Reserves the right to detain people (including Americans) indefinitely without trial.
• Can search homes without telling people they were there.

• Can still carry out renditions.
• Can get copies of all of your records (from the library, bank or credit card company) without a warrant.

So to sum things up, if you become a person of interest, the government can quickly find out everyone you have ever talked to and written to; everything you have ever read and bought; and everywhere you have ever been.

If you are overseas, they reserve the right to bring you back against your will and possibly hold you forever without trial.

Go to their factory near Suvarnabhumi and have a look- you'll be impressed- the owner, Khun Joe (who's Thai) speaks English.

Joe is a Thai?

I wonder who this guy is? I thought he was the owner?

But in the meantime, the fight continues.

I'm worried about the defense budget also

$700B?!! Thats way too much, but it is what it is

until we can be sure the safety of the US is assured.

But if there's an alternative,

I, along with my wallet, am all ears!

Therein lies the rub

This war on terror like the war on drugs is circular

& will never end.

You cannot pass a train on the same set of tracks.

We need to get off the track.

Financially yes 700B on the record per year & god knows how much off the records

That in itself is a double edged problem.

On the one hand it has been over a decade & is helping bankrupts us

We literally cannot afford it so we print money which devalues all the other dollars

already in existence. It cannot go on forever all great empires ended for basically the

same reason.

BUT.....What is worse is that 700B per year is basically become to a large extent a part

our economy. So what will happen when it stops?

Like I said I have a wealth of no idea but feel this will not end well.

Still a good idea when digging a country into a hole is to stop digging asap.

Especially in this case that is making us no safer at all really & costing us dollars,lives & liberties.

The trailer in your link with its tiny tires is really going to limit how fast you can drive and over what type of road surface- look at it- it seems ready to fall apart in the pic (and there's no mention of inertia brakes).

Sorry if that was the pic I posted I meant the trailer style.

A-Frame 3 ramps

The one I built had full sized auto tires off I forget what car/truck

I think it is a good thing they have done this rebate.

After all if they want to be overly cautious they should not charge the owner

to adjust valves after 600 miles/1000km

If it was something they realized maybe left the factory with a spec they later

decided against then again they should feel free to fix it but at no charge to the owner.

No owner of a bike in this price range should expect to be charged for such adjustment after

such a short ride IMHO

So I think it is a good move on Honda's part & glad they did it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Build-Your-Own-Trailer-Axle-Kit-3500-Camper-ROUND-NoBK-/370511235235

You could build an axle too

Mine was so basic just set toe-in & the rest was a basic frame with three channels for bikes

Cool thing today is the internet has so many great ideas & designs

You should build one for the fun of it

even if you sub out sections etc.

Mine was simple like this style