josephbloggs

I'm not aware of any EV that has visible battery packs you can take a picture of. They are encased and protected and often built into to the chassis of the car, for obvious reasons. Do you really think they are hanging off the outside of the vehicle? Do you ask to take photos of the fuel tank when you rent a car because, you know, the previous renter might have damaged it and there could be a dangerous fuel leak? (Hint: fuel tanks are also generally not visible as they also don't hang off the sides of the car)

It's not me, I don't really like sherry.

Wow, this forum never ceases to amaze me. The pettiness, the bitterness, the stinginess. You have one body. If you need it all massaging in an hour they need to get a move on. If you want the same body massaging in two hours then they need to go slower, don't they? Throwing down money and storming out is pretty pathetic and pitiful. And people like you complain the Thais are not smiley and friendly - it's because they dread to see you walk through the door.

I was hardly frothing at the mouth, but apologies if I mixed up my replies.

My point was that if a car has been smashed enough to damage the battery the rental company would not be handing it out to the next driver as the car would be so severely damaged as to be unusable. So your argument that EVs are bad because you might rent one and you don't know what the previous renter did to the battery is just nonsensical. You are inventing ridiculously far fetched scenarios each time.

See my post above. Thank you, and you're welcome.

Ah, so they faked it. You really have an extremely closed mind. Here's the Euro NCAP video of their test. Is this staged too?

Guess what, if you have a job where your boss can call you on a whim to drive 300kms straight to a meeting then an EV is probably not right for you. No one is saying they are perfect for everyone. Personally I'd consider a new job but that's just me. How often does that happen by the way? Is it about as often as a motorway being unexpectedly closed and you being diverted tens of kilometres through deserted forests? Or does it happen more frequently than never?

Here's a video of an EV being smashed up. And then you see the battery is removed in perfect condition, placed in another car, and it works perfectly. If the previous driver of the rental had smashed the car badly enough to damage the battery I am pretty sure the rental company would notice it. Do you think these batteries are on the outside of the car and made of cheese? Surprised you (or any of the others) haven't trotted out the "but what if it rains and the road floods" yet. Come on, you're missing a trick!

Surely you're just dreaming up hypothetical scenarios that have nothing to do with the topic in hand. I could rent a car with a faulty gearbox, or with timing issues, a loose clutch. That has nothing to do with anything. And I believe the battery swap is a subscription so you are changing them after every charge is depleted and it takes the same amount of time as filling up with petrol. You don't keep the battery they give you.

It ignores the issue of "charge evaporation" when the temperature drops (less of an issue in LOS, but certainly an issue in Europe & much of North America as even Florida gets frosts sometimes). It ignores the issue of unexpectedly closed freeways/motorways with unplanned diversions of tens of kilometres through sparsely populated countryside - with potentially zero charging facilities available. It assumes that every EV will start a journey with a full charge - this can be really challenging for those without dedicated parking who may need to drive to a charging point some considerable time before setting off on any journey, so drivers may need to get up an EXTRA hour or more early to drive to a meeting because of the need to charge the EV prior to setting off. Unlike The Guardian I find that range anxiety is real and completely justified and I suspect that the Guardian is being intentionally dishonest. Those who read the Guardian regularly may not be surprised at this suspicion. Hilarious. You accuse the Guardian of being superficial and deceptive then you go on to come up with most extreme examples of things that could maybe possibly happy.The Guardian was talking about general real-world ownership and typical usage. No it doesn't IGNORE that, it talks about it. It also talks about the 55% increase in the number of public charge points globally in 2022, and a 43% increase in fast charging in the UK in the past year. They also said there are still concerns about finder a reliable charger in the UK but that is being resolved quickly. Seriously? They are installing charges in such remote uninhabited areas that there is not a phone signal? Why would they do that when a) people need to use a phone app to use them, and b) the stations themselves need a signal to operate? How often are you left in an otherwise deserted car park in the middle of the night to charge? Again another ridiculous example plucked out of thin air and never likely to happen. How many charging units are installed in deserted car parks? Anyway I would tell my wife or daughter to not be so stupid as to run out of battery in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere. So the article should discuss every perceivable scenario no matter how ludicrous or ridiculous or unlikely? Yes, it ignored that scenario. It also ignored what would happen if a space ship landed to steal your battery for fuel. Let me ask you, how many times have you experienced an unexpectedly closed motorway with an unplanned diversion through tens of kilometres through sparsely populated countryside? And on the occasions it did happen, how many petrol stations were in this sparsely populated countryside? If you really needed to leave for work an EXTRA hour earlier to get a charge your EV then you were an idiot for buying one as it clearly doesn't work for your needs. The Guardian did not say every single person should have an EV. If it works for your circumstances (ie you have home charging and don't do weekly journeys of several hundred kms at a time) then great. If not, stick with ICE or a hybrid. But inventing these silly scenarios that have no relevance to the article just shows you are coming in to the argument with a pre-conceived mindset and, let's be honest, makes you look a bit foolish. You mean unlike the Guardian that said: "There is no doubt that range anxiety is real." Just admit you didn't read any of the articles, it's fine. This is exactly why I ended my post with "(Yeah yeah, the Guardian, lefty liberal, pushing the woke agenda, blah blah)", because there's always one like who will come out with comments like that, and almost always without reading the articles (like you). I am not an EV evangelist. I am not even an EV owner. I just found the articles informative and pretty well balanced. You might too if you try reading them and doing so with an open mind.

Sadly this isn't true. Jimmy Saville is an example.

Poor showing from Tesla, but what is the asterisk for? Only Tesla has one.

No I don't, sorry. I am sure there must be one out there.

Too stoned to clean your finger nails? Edit: ah, just beaten to it.

That's a lot of money for a rattly truck with a lid.

This is better if you actually want to see the whole thing and not have half of the lines cut off before the end.

Yawn.

Villa have frozen legs of NZ lamb. Cooked one last week and it was fab. They also do shoulders. (Sorry, just realised this is the Chiang Mai forum so my comment is useless - don't know if you even have Villa in CM.) As to the comment about Thais not liking lamb, generally this is true and the main complaint is the smell. However I have converted several Thais that now love lamb after they tried it: either roast leg or shoulder or BBQ lamb chops. It is now my wife's favourite meat and several of my neighbours love it having tried it at my house after previously saying it smelt bad and they didn't like it. Lamb rocks.

Patterson was so much better when he came on. Really not sure why Dyche persists with Young - he got done by Mudryk twice in the first five minutes - he's just too slow. I really like Patterson. Great second half performance, great result. And super pleased for Dobbin. Onwards and sideways!!

A very typical outlook for us, we know not to get carried away, ever. But I actually fancy us to win today and keep things going.......but it depends on Ashley Young. My money is on him to get an early booking. I really hope he doesn't start as he tends to be a liability.

Range anxiety is real. I don't own an EV but I borrowed one for three days for a road trip. I was constantly wondering if the readout was accurate, but actually it was amazingly accurate. (You enter your destination and it tells you how much battery/range you will have when you arrive and also how much you would have left if you chose to drive straight back.). It was a Volvo, not a Tesla, I don't know anything about them exaggerating - what my car showed was accurate. However it all depends on driving style and other factors, just like you never seem to get the mpg advertised. It's on the buyer and how you drive. If you are contantly doing long journeys, or can't charge at home, then an EV is probably not for you. If you read the article you will see the stats - in the UK 99% of car journeys are less than 100 miles. No it isn't at all, that is just not true. Have you heard of BYD? I will likely be switching to a BYD Seal on my next purchase - top of the range performance model - and it will be the cheapest car I have bought for myself for about 20 years. Partly true. However when I drove an EV I used PlugShare and was surprised by the density of charging stations in Thailand. If you are not looking for them you don't notice them. Definitely not a concern in Thailand right now although it remains to be seen if the infrastructure keeps up with sales (which are going through the roof). That remains to be seen. Imagine you keep a car for ten years and your battery has degraded by 20% - it still has value. And in ten years time batteries will likely be much much cheaper than they are now. A question for you: did you read any of the articles before posting? They cover most of your "concerns" backed up by data. I am sure some of the EV owners on here (as mentioned, I am not one of them) will chime in with real world experience.

Agree. At the very least he could have just replied, "What is MSIG please?" and someone would have answered. Yet he went on the attack instead. Then doubled down. Very childish.

Just thought I would share this - a series of three articles, each one tackling a different "problem". Subject are "range anxiety (should you worry about getting stranded)", "the dirty EV mining industry", and "the fire risk of EVs". I thought they were pretty well balanced and fair. Would be keen to hear feedback from any open minded anti-EV posters. https://www.theguardian.com/business/series/ev-mythbusters (Yeah yeah, the Guardian, lefty liberal, pushing the woke agenda, blah blah)

I'm waiting for this: https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/yangwang-u8-1184bhp-plug-hybrid-suv-can-float-water