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  1. "violently manhandling her"

    The minuscule bruise must have been life-threatening.

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    Were the guards in the wrong?

    Yes

    Is the complainant grossly exaggerating?

    Yes

    The mob assaulted a defenceless lone woman. It was a terrifying and traumatic event. She had no idea what they would do to her.

    You may not have the ability to understand the fear and terror she experienced, but those of us with some modicum of humanity do.

    The event was wrong in so many ways. This was politically motivated terror and intimidation.

    This is Thailand and not the west. Evidently you do not understand the 'Thai way' of conducting themselves in these kinds of situations. Either you need to get out more or do some reading about the Thai culture, OR you are simply a red shirt sympathizer. I don't ever criticize any Thai for their conduct and their way of doing business, their business is not mine.

    You state, " you don't ever criticize any Thai for their conduct and their way of doing business, their business, not mine"

    I see.

    So I take it then that are not a critic of the current Thai government, nor of the former PM Thaksin?

    Odd, since you have expressed your view previously that you did not agree with the current government policy(s). After all it is the Thai way of doing business and you would never criticize that, right? thumbsup.gif

    Right!!! You still need to get out more and learn about Thai culture.

  2. One really does wonder why a respected journalist only covers one side of the story. blink.png

    No wonder no-one trusts CNN anymore.

    Hopefully her readership will diminish for such poor reporting.

    Shame on you Ms Amanpour. facepalm.gif

    As far as I know Ms. Amanpour is a far left leaning news journalist. I have a feeling a list of prepared questions were given to her by YL. This is the first time I recall YL responding in Thai to an English interview.

  3. So better not to give them another chance then.

    What would you recommend?

    . Sure they can have another chance after eradicating the country of all of the Shinawattra's influence, IMO that will go a long way to righting Thailand. This group of thieves is the reason the country is in such a mess and there is no denying that. The low information paid for voters that blindly elected this bunch is as guilty as the Shins. Education education and education is the only way out, but there again it is not my place to criticize or to educate the Thai people.

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  4. "violently manhandling her"

    The minuscule bruise must have been life-threatening.

    rolleyes.gif

    Were the guards in the wrong?

    Yes

    Is the complainant grossly exaggerating?

    Yes

    The mob assaulted a defenceless lone woman. It was a terrifying and traumatic event. She had no idea what they would do to her.

    You may not have the ability to understand the fear and terror she experienced, but those of us with some modicum of humanity do.

    The event was wrong in so many ways. This was politically motivated terror and intimidation.

    This is Thailand and not the west. Evidently you do not understand the 'Thai way' of conducting themselves in these kinds of situations. Either you need to get out more or do some reading about the Thai culture, OR you are simply a red shirt sympathizer. I don't ever criticize any Thai for their conduct and their way of doing business, their business is not mine.

    using 'Thai way' as an excuse for bullying and harassment... pathetic

    I am not making excuses for anyone but I do think based on your comment you do need to get out more. Are you a Thai citizen or just a guest in this country like most of us in TV? IMO you surely do not understand anything about the Thai people? Do you even live here?

  5. It also believes the caretaker government has lost the support of the international community.

    I don't see the international community dancing for joy when PDRC members blocked voting booths and beat-up citizens who were just trying to cast their votes. Or when they beat up taxi-drivers and abduct shoppers, and threatened to kidnap the PM and her family.

    This quote above is just desperation masked by bravado, in this case. Mostly the international community wants to see democracy, with voting-rights for all, and an end to mob-rule. This is just good for business, and the international community values a stable peaceful business environment above just about anything.

    I do not condone airport shutdowns, but I did not see too much thugs in operation re yellows in their fling.

    I have seen in this sporadic violations during these protests.

    Nothing compares to the RED mob intimidating rule starting with the 2010 burning, they themselves brought out the army to uproot and look what they did in retreat.

    Look at the whole picture, would you like this regime to carry on--or a fresh start ??? reforms before an election to rid the election of cancerous elements.

    Ridiculous thought but why not let the people decide?

    FYI, the people did decide and look at the mess the country is in.

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  6. "violently manhandling her"

    The minuscule bruise must have been life-threatening.

    rolleyes.gif

    Were the guards in the wrong?

    Yes

    Is the complainant grossly exaggerating?

    Yes

    The mob assaulted a defenceless lone woman. It was a terrifying and traumatic event. She had no idea what they would do to her.

    You may not have the ability to understand the fear and terror she experienced, but those of us with some modicum of humanity do.

    The event was wrong in so many ways. This was politically motivated terror and intimidation.

    This is Thailand and not the west. Evidently you do not understand the 'Thai way' of conducting themselves in these kinds of situations. Either you need to get out more or do some reading about the Thai culture, OR you are simply a red shirt sympathizer. I don't ever criticize any Thai for their conduct and their way of doing business, their business is not mine.

  7. The ticking sound is a clock but the problem is, there is C4 attached. Only in the dreamms of the traditional Thai elites and some foreigners will the PTP and their supporters disappear, if and when they try their world famous court coup act. The result of such a coup may in the longer run be the permanent dismise of these elites. But the red shirts and PTP voters will not disappear, they will just become more angry and the country will just become more divided.

    The guy in the desert will not go away easy and he is the one in control and the person to deal with, not YL. When and if YL goes the Shins assets in Thailand will become vulnerable. The Dubai Duke's only interest is $$$$$$$, IMO. This whole process of YL going is going to be a long and retracted process.

  8. And the yellow farangs start to dream again.

    How many times have you declared victory now?

    In the fight against cancer, one must cut and poison and blast.

    Many victories may be declared along the way but until the cancer has gone, the war continues

    And often, all that activity is for naught. The patient eventually dies. There is no cure for most cancers. One goes into remission.

    Troll postings, wasting band width and not relevant at all IMHO.

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  9. And the yellow farangs start to dream again.

    How many times have you declared victory now?

    Well, they feel important to live in a country of desperate and oppressed people, that's why they support military dictatorship, massacres of civilians, and widespread robbery and corruption (Thaksin government was by far the LEAST corrupt in history of Thailand, according to Transparency International)

    With a population of desperate and starving people, they will run around with their miserable pensions feeling like the "farangs kings" who can buy anybody, from the little daughter of a desperate farmer to the countryside maiden who will clean their rooms for a miserable salary.

    Fist act of the new army government will be to lower drammaticaly the minimum salary. That's what yellowish farangs are looking for: feeling rich in a desperatly poor country

    Max seems you are an expert on all things concerning the Thai government and what's best for the Thai people.! May I ask how long you have been in country in order to develpe your opinion? After thirty years in country myself I am having trouble with your assessment. Are you from eastern Europe? Maybe Venezuela?

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  10. He has just as much right to express his opinion as the yellows have, the army best not disrupt the country more than it is already polarized,

    Cheers

    But smetimes, Kikoman, some views posted here are reprehensible. It's not about opinion - it's about facts.

    I totally agree with what you said that "some views are reprehensible". A prime example would be advocating military coups and unelected People's Councils because "democracy is not appropriate for Thailand because most Thai people are too stupid to vote for the right people".

    Sent from my IS11T using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

    Whoa! Wait just a minute. First of all Thai people are not 'too stupid' to vote for the right people. If you understand Thai culture and the system used (Rote) to educate the masses then you will understand the client-patron relationship. Thais are not stupid, in most cases they do not have the luxury of a proper education.

  11. What happens if you refuse to sign up? Do you get sent off to a re-education camp?

    I believe the current method of attitude correction is sending a few of "the boys" to visit your wife while you are otherwise engaged.

    Where did you get that piece of information from? Is that what is known as carrying out a duty of pleasure?

    It was widely reported that a rice farmer protesting non-payment from the government was forced to desist after his wife was visited and threatened by alleged red shirts. AFAIK it never got past intimidation as he withdrew from the protest, but we appear to have a widely different view of "pleasure".

    Remember a few weeks back when a few hundred farmers had their minds changed about demonstrating against the government? One of Barnhan's goons convinced this group to return home after a fourteen hour stay in Bangkok? I am still confused about that.

  12. Sounds like they should set up a political party and put some policies together. Thailands democracy deserves a better opposition than the democrats, who are the worst political party in thai history.

    The democrat party do stumble a lot but there are lots of very bright and capable people on tap, no I don't mean Mark.

  13. I have a serious question for those with more knowledge about where the RTA recruits from?

    If the RTA has a significant proportion of recruits from the North and East, as in Red areas, what do they think will happen if a civil war were to ever break out? Do you think these soldiers will stand and fight against their kin, or will the Army collapse and have many units classed as combat innefective/Non Mission Capable?

    It's all very well saying things like "Send the Army In" but it's not really that simple, loyalties within the Army will be tested and stretched to the limit, how would you react if you were ordered to go and "Crush" a village that you belonged to?

    Last thing Thailand needs is a civil war..

    If civil war should breakout God forbid IMO it will be fought mainly for control of Bangkok and possibly Chiang Mai. I don't think there will ever be an instance of the military or others wanting to 'crush' a village as was done in Vietnam back in the day. The problem in a civil war is you won't know who the enemy is.

    I agree with the Bangkok part, but why would anyone fight for control of Chiang Mai? There is absolutely nothing of value there? Just alot of crazy red shirts and a few tourists.

    There is no vital infrastructure, no important natural resources, no harbour. It may be an important tradepoint to some neighbouring countries, but not the only one, so can easily be replaced. Further, those tradepoints matter mainly to the people in Chiang Mai, not to the rest of the country. Most international trade is done by ship. Yes, there may be alot of culture and beautiful scenery, but none of that is important in terms of war.

    You might as well try to take Koh Samui :-)

    There's Doi Inthanon just up the road, the highest point in SE Asia. The American's thought it important enough to build a listening.... sorry.... research station on the top of it.

    IMO Chiang Mai may very well be a strategic location if the sh*t storm comes. The reds will have to control Chiang Mai and Bangkok. The VKong felt it was necessary to capture and control Saigon in 1975. IMO the control of Bangkok and possibly Chiang Mai would be necessary in order to stand off any kind of strong resistance. Bangkok is the Prize.

  14. Robbie, I don't support Thaksin, nor his style of rule, I just don't get caught up in the hatred and emotion of what happened in 2010, I wasn't there, I can't comment accuratelty as to what went on, on the ground, other than to make observations based on reading and watching articles here.

    I do know a thing or two about insurgency and anti terrorism, seen it done it got the t-shirt, I'll give you an example of recent events in Iraq, several months ago now, AQ and ISIL took over Fallujah and Ramadi, TOOK OVER, these cities are massive, the Police there and the local Army units ran!!!! You're not talking about 10's of thousands of AQ/ISIL either, you're talking about no more than several hundred tops... they took cities <deleted>!!

    2-3 Months ago the Iraqi Government announced they were sending the Army in to crush these terrorists, and reclaim these two cities, there was news reports on the TV every night, lots of pictures of the Iraqi Army all kitted out with the latest US Gucci gear, more things attached to their M4's than a Swiss army knife, all singing and dancing as if they've just won a war..

    They got their asses handed to them on a plate,and had to pull back, they rushed Military hardware that was on order including Mi24's and Mi28's to these cities, straight from Umm Qasr Port and begged the Americans for a rapid supply of AGM114 hellfire misiles for their UAV's, and Fast Air (F16's)

    It's all gone quiet, the Euphoria was short lived, the Iraqi Army has not been able to claim either City back, they will take an area, hold it, then quit and go home at night, only to have the area retaken by the Insurgents, they had all the gear, all the hype, the training the works... they just didn't have the backbone or stomach to die for nothing, many of these units that were sent to Fallujah came from the South, Shia's and they didn't feel any compunction to die for a Sunni city.

    What's my point you might ask? The point is don't assume the Army is the answer and assume that their loyalties are not elsewhere wink.png

    Your spiel is about very militant Muslims in their own country in the middle east, not the same as Thais in Thailand. I doubt very much that the Thai military has on hand any of the ordinance you mention. Just no comparison here to anything in Iraq. The Muslims are much more devoted to terrorism and they don't get tired.

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