properperson

my slant - after the initial running in period, i always go synthetic.....  appart from 2 engines seizing and a blown up gear box - never had an ounce of trouble ....

just buy an aerox 155 R model - it will knock a Tricity (125 or 155) into next week .....

Got a message from the KTM Dealers today......

Reccon they are opening "around April"

Address -  Latprao 122, bangkok ....

Had no news on the upcoming 490 Duke ...

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5 hours ago, papa al said:

Then you know that tallow is primarily made up of triglycerides.

Hydrophobic, true.  But triglycerides are not esters.

Unclear why you are conflating the two.

papa has a few degrees/certifications is science & tech as well, so what?.

Referencing yourself as an expert to argue a point lacks validity.

Ad hominum. 

Logic 101.

????

 

Ah - the 3 Degees - i wondered where they'd got too .....

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so in conclusion then.....

Dont wast your money - put the cheapest oil in,  the Honda dealer sells ....

Go semi synthetic - great protection without the extra cost of fully synthetic.....

Your engine deserves the best - go fully synthetic.....

My head is spinning ....

Using Google Translate:

https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=th&u=https://www.motorival.com/ktm-thailand-distributor-vroom-2020/&prev=search

And what a great time to be importing KTM to Thailand with the new Duke 500 / adventure / super moto out later this year !

What a stonking bike that's going to be !

Yeeee haaaaa .....

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On 1/17/2020 at 8:03 PM, eisfeld said:

I don't think the excise tax changes should cause an over 4000thb increase. Without knowing the CO2 specs for the engine, I would say the tax increase should be 0.5% (2.5% -> 3%) so more like a 500THB increase. The other 3600 THB come from Honda. A lot of manufacturers probably think it's a good time to increase prices because people will blame the tax change.

what you say makes sense - i had my ADV serviced at Mittyon yesterday (1,000km) and was chatting to the salesman who told me "price gone up" - now 105,000 out the door .....

not sure if the original price was a starter offer for a few weeks, or if they put the price up when the tax was icreased, but whatever - if you want one - 105,000 is now the number....

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On 1/12/2020 at 2:26 AM, guzzi850m2 said:

I had a sit on the ADV and I didn't like the sitting position at all compared to my old 1st gen Pcx150. Pcx more sofa like, or cruiser, relaxed.

Anyway I only uses my scooter for popping around Pattaya, going any further and I take my big bike.

The top box on the pcx can hold a box of beers so don't need the flat board either.

I had the pcx from new and it's been flawless so I might keep it for a while longer until I find a replacement I really like, but nothing on the market at the moment

everyone has different ideas and opinions about scooters / bikes.... That's what makes Forums like this so interesting...

The main reason for me plumping for an ADV was the suspension - it irons out bumps far better than any small scooter ...when you chuck in the rear disc and ABS, it was a surefire winner for me.....

As regards the riding position - The "dirt bike bars / riding position" was a big plus for me over the pcx "cruiser / sofa" position...

700km in - deffo no regrets .....

33 minutes ago, ktm jeff said:

As has been mentioned several times before , if the Hondas "ABS" system has Hondas CBS - where the front brakes comes on even when you only apply the rear brake - any safety benefits seem to be wiped out.

it doesn't ...seperate ..

20 hours ago, racket said:

I saw this bike on the roads of Koh Samui and had to glance a bit what bike it was. YouTube has some really nice video clips, and it looks promising. Though, I would say this is Hondas answer to Yamaha Aerox, but I never fell for that bike to be honest. The bike is probably priced at 98-120,00 baht depending on specifications - man its sexy. 

 

Ps. not sure if its a good idea to buy a complete new model version since the first ones usually have some issues when first released, should probably wait for the next yr version with some improvements. 

its not the same concept .....The Aerox is an excellent scooter (i owned an R model for almost 3 years) - THe ADV has a bit of an enduro bike feel about it, with a higher riding position and abilty to smooth out the lumps and bumps in the road.....

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24 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Yes, reducing = 0 presence -  at least this is what it looks like in the moment.

It seems the Thai distributor BurnRubber canceled the KTM contract beginning of this year.

And about a month ago the KTM "Flagship" shop in A-Square was closed.

Since then I contacted BurnRubber per email - no response.

And I contacted head office KTM in Austria - no response until now.

Not good...

 

Hard to know if KTM cancelled, or Burn Rubber cancelled ....

Either way there are no more being imported...

with the -4 rear sprocket on my Gen 2 and sitting in normal riding position - i saw 168 km/h on my GPS....

Can't say it was that enjoyable though....

if you're happy with your purchase then that's fine Papa....

Typically the non service history bikes are finance snatchbacks bought from auctions - and if the owner ain't got enough dough to pay the credit, it's probable he ain't got the dough to look after it properly.... Personally that's not a risk i would want to take.....

Would have needed an oil change at 1,000km circa 3 years ago and one at 7,500km - so without proof of servicing - the oil could be 3 years old having done 8,400km - if an old "oil expert" like you, that regularly rattles on about oil quality / makes etc,  is happy with that - Then, so be it.....

as i've said before i wouldn't buy without full service history - and the more papers / docs the bike comes with, the better.....

When i bought my s/h 390 earlier in the year - i went to the ferrang owner's house, who'd bought it from new and he handed over the original purchase receipt, receipts for accessories fitted, receipts from the main dealer for the 1,000km / 7,500km services, plus the stamped service book..... A proper "pedigree" bike imho - and these docs, plus docs i will keep during my ownership, will stand me in good stead when it's time to bail.....

You say you're a "Rebel" - Well, Let's hope you're not a Rebel without a working engine !

Anyway, Enjoy your new bike....

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2 hours ago, papa al said:

Here she is with stickers removed and new brush guards:

From one KTM owner to another - Looks Good Papa .....

Didn't think removing the stickers would look good...but it does .....

Didn't think the metal hand guards would look good - but they do and compared to the 4,000 baht KTM ones, you've had a result......

Like i said many posts ago - i've ridden the 200 Duke a while ago and for a 200 it pulls very well and not as lumpy as the Gen 1  390 .....

just got to get some riding done now .....

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Was quoted 99,300 baht "out the door" today for a red one with ABS / keyless (theft insurance was about 1,500 baht as i recall) .....

i wouldn't buy any s/h bike or car without full history - properly stamped in the book.

i've been around cars an bikes long enough to know that when it's time to bail - having fsh could mean the difference between selling or not. Strike that, cos every bike / car i have ever bought has had it !

i guess if you're selling a 15yr old shagger for the price of a plate of chips, it may not be so important.

2 minutes ago, papa al said:

PP:     Would velly like to get one of those racks !!

Are they available here or by order?

Made in India. $55 there.

 

papa stopped by Pattaya Wrap today.

Not much into orange.

Maybe blue, or grey, but fancy pixilated camo.

B5-6000 baht quote.

 

The new tires already mounted are some IRC made ones

costing about B3000/pair.

Same like on new CBRs and MSlaz.

Okay but not great.

Poor reviews on wet pavements.

Maybe would like to upgrade to Michelin but not sure.

 

papa down for kumbaya.

 

 

 

 

Rack - Have to buy direct from india...they do black as well as orange .....

Wrap - You can get some really nice sticker kits for the duke 200 / 390 - ktm do a few ( see below) - maybe ktm pattaya are having a sale- Burn rubber did before they closed.... bought a few things at 50% off ....Also big choice on fleebay and the like, poss Lazada ...

Personally i like the original tank sticker that's on yours - although if it were me, i'd remover the "200" sticker......

Tyres -  You said the bike has done 8,000 km  ? i'm staggered the original tyres needed changing at that miles -  the 200's don't get the sticky tyres the 390 gen 1 got - i would have thought 15,000km would be about right (you say no history - so check chain wear / sprockets to see if they stack up to the miles on the speedo)...... as to IRC brand - personally i wouldn't - but if there are new IRC's on - you have to be a real fanatic to bin them and buy better replacements..... can get some quotes from i moto to get an idea of cost to see whats what.....

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16 minutes ago, sillyfool said:

is that a luggage rack on the back ?

Yes its a Zana "flip" rack.....

Can either have it in the above position of you are riding solo ...or can flip it over if you want to carry a passenger...

Very clever idea ( IMHO ) - had never seen one before....

first  below is from their website, showing the rack in the "flipped" position....

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12 minutes ago, sillyfool said:

bought it 2nd hand and to be honest im color blind so i didn't really even notice that. thanks for pointing it out though.as for the chain guard. i found it too loud.

 

why do you think it is stupid ?

 

I bought the chineese copy engine guards for my Gen 1 390 - The poor colour match with the frame grinned at me every time i walked up to the bike - so in the end, had them sprayed gun metal silver.

When i got my Gen 2 390 - Went for the proper Power Parts ones and the colour match was spot on ! - Cost over double the price as the copies, but at least i was the one doing the grinning !

Just my ten pennyworth - i'd never remove the chain guard.... Worried about clothing getting caught in it and worse still the chain coming off and getting wrapped round my leg.

ps: i've lit a candle for Papa so he don't get burnt .. If anyone is interested in doing a midnight kumbaya - PM me...

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25 minutes ago, papa al said:

Pray for papa.

mmm a dealer selling it for 39,000 baht - wonder what he paid for it ?  - 25, maybe ? - probably from an auction - quite probably a finance snatch back (in bkk there are twice weekly finance snatchback auctions with 500 plus bikes and 500 plus cars - you couldn't catch your breath) - and if the original owner couldn't afford to pay the credit - he ain't likely to have paid the sky high service costs at the ktm dealer.....

30,000 km i guess isn't a huge amount for the engine if it has been regularly serviced - papa did ask the dealer to photo the fully stamped book so you can check the service history ?  no ? 

did you get the dealer to send you a photo of page 18 of the book ? - this shows if anything un toward has happened to the bike - like it being an insurance rite-off ?  no ?

i would suspect that if thais are involved there will be no history - so how would you know firstly that it has has been serviced at the correct times with good quality oil (ktm's are finiky little things and need high quality oil changes on a regular basis to keep them running properly) and secondly - that it hasn't been clocked ?

As said earlier if it has done 30,0000 km - its not just the engine, but things like fork seals, brake pads, chain / sprockets and the like.... which would be expensive on this type of bike.....

As regards them bringing the bike to you ....mmm puts you in a position of weekness, imho -  you've already given them 3k and will be under pressure to complete the deal....... personally i would have put the seller's address into my phone gps and gone and looked at it ........then if it's a shead - easy to walk away ......

i wish you the very best of luck papa ......