Brit, 32, dies in Thailand days before wedding after crash

10 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Because some of us, no matter how poor we were growing up, were taught never to ask other people for money. Probably because we knew our friends and neighbours had their problems, and it just wasn't right to expect help from them or to burden them.

It was considered begging, and it carried a great deal of shame, even in working-class families.

It appears that values like self-respect and personal pride have faded for some people. Many now think it's perfectly acceptable to ask others for financial help, even complete strangers.

In this case, he either didn't arrange, or chose not to pay for, adequate travel insurance to cover unforeseen circumstances, such as accidents, or in this case death, and the repatriation of remains.

That responsibility shouldn't automatically fall on the public.

It's a pet hate of mine.

i was also brought up to support myself and have never sponged off others. If others wish to help each other out then that is their business, Do you get triggered when people donate to charity? or is that "different"

The only difference I see is that a large portion of the money donated to charities never finds its way to the intended recipients

RIP

In my 20 years of living in Bangkok I always tried to avoid riding on motorbikes, thinking that the roads are too dangerous anyway. Also, a car taxi used to only cost $3 - $5 anyway, and there's the MRT & BTS.

(I understand that riding motorbikes on dirt tracks or lanes upcountry or at a small beach resort is rather different.)

39 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

If others are willing to contribute what is your problem? Its not compulsory , and whilst I certainly won't be coughing up, I have no issues with the family asking for assistance and no issues with those who wish to help, "up to them" as they say

I have no issue with what you said. My problem is that funds are diverted from people in dire need of help. Funds should be spent on the living not on the dead. Frankly I think the 10,000 GBP is on the high side.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by riverhigh

9 minutes ago, Blueman1 said:

But She Wasn't His Wife, She was his Fiance !!

OMG you mean they were "living in sin" ! that changes everything, serves him right eh ?

3 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

i was also brought up to support myself and have never sponged off others. If others wish to help each other out then that is their business, Do you get triggered when people donate to charity? or is that "different"

The only difference I see is that a large portion of the money donated to charities never finds its way to the intended recipients

I do because I see the waste and the salaries those CEOs of the charities are on.

They always seem to have plenty of money for advertising on TV at peak viewing hours, begging for money and making us feel guilty.

I said earlier in another thread, and I actually listed some of my past charitable events and causes that I did at my properties whilst in business. I definitely, where possible, preferred giving products and essential items rather than cash, to charities.

There is far too much of this Just giving and GoFundMe on social media these days, so much so, it encourages people not to take responsibility for themselves.

1 minute ago, riverhigh said:

I have no issue with what you said. My problem is that funds are diverted from people in dire need of help. Funds should be spent on the living not on the dead. Frankly I think the 10,000 GBP is on the high side.

Its well too much , he could be burnt here and his ashes sent home by FED ex or DHL much cheaper . However rest assured it is not diverting my funds away from more worthy causes or indeed any other causes at all, as I have no intention of ever donating whatsoever, However for those that wish to , crack on

I wonder how many of this type of accident is a young foreigner, on a fast bike traveling at high speeds? Just saying because it scares the hell out of me on my little pcx.

1 minute ago, Scouse123 said:

I do because I see the waste and the salaries those CEOs of the charities are on.

They always seem to have plenty of money for advertising on TV at peak viewing hours, begging for money and making us feel guilty.

I said earlier in another thread, and I actually listed some of my past charitable events and causes that I did at my properties whilst in business. I definitely, where possible, preferred giving products and essential items rather than cash, to charities.

There is far too much of this Just giving and GoFundMe on social media these days, so much so, it encourages people not to take responsibility for themselves.

So it appears we actually agree, A friend of my brothers mother in law back in the uk was always a soft touch , she often responded to the TV adverts asking for money for sick donkeys etc etc , what none of her relatives knew was that her charitable nature ( she was a soft touch) had not gone unnoticed and her name was appearing on "data lists" that are available for a fee and which highlighted this.

It was only after her death that the family accessed her bank accounts and saw that she was handing over hundreds of pounds every month to these so called charities. leeches all of them

I don't ever give money to the homeless, I tried to give a sandwich to one claiming to be starving, and was told where to shove it

21 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

So it appears we actually agree, A friend of my brothers mother in law back in the uk was always a soft touch , she often responded to the TV adverts asking for money for sick donkeys etc etc , what none of her relatives knew was that her charitable nature ( she was a soft touch) had not gone unnoticed and her name was appearing on "data lists" that are available for a fee and which highlighted this.

It was only after her death that the family accessed her bank accounts and saw that she was handing over hundreds of pounds every month to these so called charities. leeches all of them

I don't ever give money to the homeless, I tried to give a sandwich to one claiming to be starving, and was told where to shove it

When my mother got too old and ill to look after herself, I built an extension on my older sister's house and my sister gave up work to look after MAM. We built a ground floor granny flat which was self-contained.

Anyway, she had cash left over from the sale of her house safely deposited in her bank.

She used to sit in the chair in the lounge ordering things from online companies that she neither needed nor wanted, I realized it was because she was bored.

On one of my trips home, she told me she was getting a 'bit fed up now' of charities asking for money because she was doing her best, but they kept asking for more.

We found out she had been regularly giving 50 GBP here, and 30 GBP there, and 100 GBP for a one off over there, to all and sundry various charities. The sum was in the hundreds regularly.

My sister hadn't noticed. She was too busy looking after MAM, running a household and she, herself, was a grandmother.

Between us, we put a stop to all of them, but it had gone unnoticed for 18 months. When she tried to stop previously, she was bombarded with how much her donation meant, and who was doing without now her donations had stopped. Total emotional blackmail.

If they were doing it to us, how many more vulnerable and lonely old men and women are they doing it to?

2 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

This is the second story in a few weeks of shoddy diagnosis and medical care resulting in death. It belies the notion that Thailand is some great place with wonderful medical care (as they are trying to advertise). People overseas who are considering coming to Thailand for medical treatment really should do a lot of research on that first.

Should every Thai island have gleaming medical facilities with MRI scanners poised to use as well as operating theatres?

'I doubt if you could find a travel insurance provider that covers injuries from motorcycle accidents'

Not my experience from 15 years travel and riding in Thailand! Many do, but however they have 'rules' or may not pay out.

-They require that you have a valid home license, and IDP, so you ride legally oseas.

- They usually limit capacity to 125cc (can be a problem as so many scooters now are 150-160cc

-They require that you wear a helmet and are not drunk.Some companies do have more onerous rules but these are the common ones.