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Thailand or Vietnam: Retirement choices

Thailand offers foreign retirees a clearer legal route to long-term residence than Vietnam, but Vietnam can cost considerably less for those able to manage more complicated visa arrangements. For people deciding where to spend retirement in Southeast Asia, the choice in 2026 often comes down to predictable paperwork and healthcare versus lower rent and daily spending.

Thailand has developed visa options specifically for retirement. The Non-Immigrant O visa allows foreigners aged 50 and above to stay for one or more years, when renewed, for retirement purposes.

Applicants generally need a valid passport, basic medical certificate and depending on initial visa, Thai-recognised health insurance. They must also show either 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account or a monthly income of 65,000 baht.

Vietnam has no retirement visa

Vietnam does not have a dedicated retirement visa, nor a visa category based only on a person's age, pension income or retirement status. Retirees seeking a long stay must instead pursue a Temporary Residence Card through eligible work, investment or family-tie routes, or use investment and family-reunion visas.

That can involve more legal complexity than a retirement move to Thailand. Investment-linked residence may require a compliant local company, along with continuing tax filings and audits, obligations that may not suit someone who has stopped working.

For foreigners who want an established route without relying on a job, investment or family sponsorship, Thailand's retirement visa framework is therefore a major practical advantage. Conditions, including financial evidence and insurance, should nevertheless be checked before applying.

Vietnam's advantage is everyday cost

Comparisons cited by Travelbinger put Vietnam around 20-30% cheaper than Thailand for a similar expat lifestyle. Rent is estimated to be roughly 40% lower on average.

Modern one-bedroom apartments are quoted at US$300-500 in Ho Chi Minh City and US$200-350 in Da Nang. Comparable rents are put at US$400-700 in Bangkok and US$350-550 in Chiang Mai.

A comfortable retirement budget is estimated at US$800-1,200 a month in Vietnam, compared with US$1,200-1,800 in Thailand. Annual estimates put comfortable expat spending at US$22,000-30,000 in Vietnam, against US$30,000-40,000 in Bangkok.

Street-food meals are estimated at US$1-3 in Vietnam and US$2-4 in Thailand, while restaurant dinners are US$5-12 and US$8-15 respectively. Domestic beer is also said to be cheaper in Vietnam.

The gap can narrow for retirees dependent on imported food and Western amenities, which can be significantly more expensive in Vietnam. Those happy with local food are likely to see the largest savings.

Healthcare, property and daily life

Thailand's established medical-tourism sector attracts more than two million medical tourists each year, including visitors from the United States, Australia, the Middle East and Europe. Its private hospital network includes JCI-accredited facilities, English-speaking staff and short waiting times.

Vietnam does not require health insurance for any visa category. Government figures put Vietnamese medical services at about 30-50% of the cost in Singapore or Thailand, but the country currently has four JCI-accredited hospitals. The health ministry aims for at least 15 internationally standard hospitals by 2030, including five public hospitals; retirees currently rely heavily on private hospitals in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City.

Neither country lets foreigners buy land outright. Vietnam permits foreign apartment purchases on 50-year leasehold terms, while Thailand has condominium ownership rules for foreigners and an established rental market.

Thailand has also applied tax rules since 2024 to foreign-source income brought into the country in the year it is earned. Retirees moving money to Thailand may need advice on tax exposure and their home country's double-taxation treaty.

Thailand offers more established expat infrastructure, English signage, public transport and retirement services. Vietnam offers lower costs, but busier traffic, less consistent English outside major cities and a more energetic pace. For many retirees, the decision is whether those savings outweigh Thailand's clearer long-term setup.

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18 August 2026

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KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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9 hours ago, SamSpade said:

Guys who are considering moving to "Live" in Vietnam on border runs might want to check out this guy's YT chanel....https://www.youtube.com/@duongglobalbusinessconsulting/videos

His latest short on Vietnam Visa runs...

I like Vietnam (am off to HCM for 3 weeks in November & might do a couple of weeks in PQ) but I couldn't live somewhere on the basis of doing border bounces every 45 days, at least in Thailand I get 12 months.

I watched some of his videos. In theory, what he says is correct, but in reality, maybe it's not what's happening on the ground. I think some of what he says has the underlying theme of pushing some customers towards his business.

In any case, some form of long stay visa is on its way for Vietnam. It will be interesting to see what they offer.

Are you really going to do 3 weeks in HCMC? It's like Bangkok.

Last time I was in HCMC, there was a great craft beer scene there. Some nice places, with great beers.

SamSpade Silver Member

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5 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Are you really going to do 3 weeks in HCMC? It's like Bangkok.

Last time I was in HCMC, there was a great craft beer scene there. Some nice places, with great beers.

TBH I'm on a last minute "Tax Exile" trip & it's my own fault as I got 86 days outside of Thailand in before mid-May but then got lazy & am now having to do 104 days (I'm targetting 175 days in Thailand) before end of November (I don't want to be travelling in December)

Malaysia gives me 90 days stay so I'm staying 88 days in Penang & the only place I can fly to direct from here is HCMC so I figured I'd do the final 16 days there.

Been HCM 3-4 times many years back when I was working in Singapore & quite like the place but am already thinking 4-5 days there then head over to Phu Quoc, come back to Bangkok from there.

Plus I lived in Bangkok (On Nut) for 4 years, still miss the place so take that as a complement :)

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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7 hours ago, SamSpade said:

TBH I'm on a last minute "Tax Exile" trip & it's my own fault as I got 86 days outside of Thailand in before mid-May but then got lazy & am now having to do 104 days (I'm targetting 175 days in Thailand) before end of November (I don't want to be travelling in December)

Malaysia gives me 90 days stay so I'm staying 88 days in Penang & the only place I can fly to direct from here is HCMC so I figured I'd do the final 16 days there.

Been HCM 3-4 times many years back when I was working in Singapore & quite like the place but am already thinking 4-5 days there then head over to Phu Quoc, come back to Bangkok from there.

Plus I lived in Bangkok (On Nut) for 4 years, still miss the place so take that as a complement :)

When is the last time you were in HCMC, or Phu Quoc, for that matter?

SamSpade Silver Member

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4 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

When is the last time you were in HCMC, or Phu Quoc, for that matter?

Must be 12 years since I've been to Vietnam & that was to Hanoi / Da Nang so maybe 14 years since I've been to HCMC, never been to Phu Quoc, is it any good?

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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4 hours ago, SamSpade said:

Must be 12 years since I've been to Vietnam & that was to Hanoi / Da Nang so maybe 14 years since I've been to HCMC, never been to Phu Quoc, is it any good?

I think you will be in for a shock. Vietnam is developing fast. It will be completely different to 12 years ago.

I've posted it before. World Record breaking cable car. Definitely check it out.

Bredbury Blue Ruby Member

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3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

I think you will be in for a shock. Vietnam is developing fast. It will be completely different to 12 years ago.

I've posted it before. World Record breaking cable car. Definitely check it out.

You seem enamoured with Vietnam. So when are you making the move from Thailand to live in your condo block in Danang?

KhunLA Star Member

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28 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said:

You seem enamoured with Vietnam. So when are you making the move from Thailand to live in your condo block in Danang?

I guess he'll have to visit to ride that cable car. There's no way, one could leave a city very long, that has the "Worlds Largest 7-11"

Nobody is going anywhere, as this meme states it perfectly ...

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KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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On 9/3/2026 at 6:57 AM, Bredbury Blue said:

You seem enamoured with Vietnam. So when are you making the move from Thailand to live in your condo block in Danang?

There's only on place in the world like Pattaya, and that's Pattaya. I love it here. I have a great lifestyle. I'll ride the wave all the way to the end.

Would I become a puppet of the Thai government, or a Thai women, just to stay in Pattaya / Thailand, not a chance.

Vietnam is a great Plan B. I have no problem debating it.

With a long stay visa deal imminent, Vietnam may very well be the first choice of many in the future, with Thailand being their Plan B.

JerryM Gold Member

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10 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

With a long stay visa deal imminent, Vietnam may very well be the first choice of many in the future, with Thailand being their Plan B.

OK we have been given the KH perspective. Here is a non-KH perspective as of 20 August 2026:

Retiring in Vietnam in 2026: the honest version

There is no retirement visa

Let's clear the head question first, because half the pages on this topic bury it.

As of 2026, Vietnam does not offer a retirement visa. Thailand does. The Philippines does. Malaysia and Indonesia do. Vietnam does not, and nothing in the current legislative pipeline changes that in the near term.

A golden visa (their bold) valid for five to ten years has been under government review for a while — proposed by the Tourism Advisory Board for people making economic, scientific or cultural contributions. It has been reviewed, discussed and reported on for several years running. It has not launched. Do not build a plan around it.

https://vietnamspot.ru/en/blog/vietnam-retire-pension

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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8 hours ago, JerryM said:

OK we have been given the KH perspective. Here is a non-KH perspective as of 20 August 2026:

I have said it before, yes, I know Vietnam does not have a retirement visa. That's not to say they will never have one, and I have posted media articles about the Vietnam government considering it.

Why is it so difficult for you to image Vietnam announcing a retirement visa in the future?

JerryM Gold Member

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1 minute ago, KhunHeineken said:

I have said it before, yes, I know Vietnam does not have a retirement visa. That's not to say they will never have one, and I have posted media articles about the Vietnam government considering it.

Why is it so difficult for you to image Vietnam announcing a retirement visa in the future?

Doesn't affect me one way or another. These seem to be credible people who have a different opinion as to what is imminent.

Edited by JerryM

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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1 minute ago, JerryM said:

Doesn't affect me one way or another. These seem top be crediblle people who have a different opinion as to what is immminent.

It doesn't effect me, either. Happy to be in Pattaya. It's only a matter of time before they announce their long stay visa. It will be interesting to see what deal they offer. Depending on the deal, it could have some impact on Thailand.

Sir Dude Gold Member

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Thailand still generally wins for the present... but that might not be the case in a few years, as Thailand is heading in the wrong direction and Vietnam is slowy heading in the opposite to Thailand's authoritarian nonsense... we'll see.

scottiejohn Star Member

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22 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Why is it so difficult for you to image Vietnam announcing a retirement visa in the future?

That statement applies to every country that does not already provide one!

Until a country does announce such a new visa it remains just a pipedream or wishful thinking! It CANNOT be used for serious retirement planing until it actually happens!

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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2 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

That statement applies to every country that does not already provide one!

Until a country does announce such a new visa it remains just a pipedream or wishful thinking! It CANNOT be used for serious retirement planing until it actually happens!

No one suggested a media article saying the Vietnam government is considering a long stay visa should be relied upon for retirement planning.

I wouldn't call it a pipe dream. Vietnam is going head to head with Thailand in the tourism industry, and winning. Similar with manufacturing and other sectors.

Some people who have just retired, or will soon retire, may just hold off buying that condo in Thailand to wait and see what Vietnam offers by way of long stay visa.

Some may actually prefer Vietnam over Thailand, if not for the visa issue.

BritManToo Star Member

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1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

No one suggested a media article saying the Vietnam government is considering a long stay visa should be relied upon for retirement planning.

I wouldn't call it a pipe dream. Vietnam is going head to head with Thailand in the tourism industry, and winning. Similar with manufacturing and other sectors.

Some people who have just retired, or will soon retire, may just hold off buying that condo in Thailand to wait and see what Vietnam offers by way of long stay visa.

Some may actually prefer Vietnam over Thailand, if not for the visa issue.

No question about it.

If I were retiring today, it would be in Vietnam with a Viet wife.

Not Thailand with a Thai wife.

I can't think of any advantage that Thailand has over Vietnam, for a retired single guy that's not averse to having a new family with a much younger woman.

jacko45k Star Member

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14 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

I have said it before, yes, I know Vietnam does not have a retirement visa. That's not to say they will never have one, and I have posted media articles about the Vietnam government considering it.

Why is it so difficult for you to image Vietnam announcing a retirement visa in the future?

How efficiently do they do things there? They have to plan it, get the details sorted and have it approved by an authoritarian government. Then comes implementation. Five years minimum?

SiSePuede419 Ruby Member

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14 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Why is it so difficult for you to image Vietnam announcing a retirement visa in the future?

Not any harder to imagine Musk getting FSD to work correctly in the next 2 weeks. Just takes the proper dose of hallucinogens. 💯

Bredbury Blue Ruby Member

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13 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If I were retiring today, it would be in Vietnam with a Viet wife.

Not Thailand with a Thai wife

Why? What's your reasons? Burnt by a Thai lass?

BritManToo Star Member

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5 minutes ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Why? What's your reasons? Burnt by a Thai lass?

Viet women are slimmer, prettier and more reasonably priced than Thai women these days.

And the country is far more interesting, and the Viet beaches don't have the bitey sand flies that are everywhere in Thailand.

No requirement to keep money sitting in Viet banks either.

Edited by BritManToo

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17 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Viet women are slimmer, prettier and more reasonably priced than Thai women these days.

And the country is far more interesting, and the Viet beaches don't have the bitey sand flies that are everywhere in Thailand.

No requirement to keep money sitting in Viet banks either.

Interesting.

Having spent several years working in a southern Vietnam province and spending lots of time in HCMC, definitely can't agree that "Vietwomen are slimmer, prettier", but each to their own.

Wouldn't know about pricing women.

Not quite sure how you opine that one country is more interesting than the other. I reckon both are interesting.

The only Viet beaches I visited were in a southern province. Beaches were 5 minutes away. Not at all nice. Lots of rubbish on the beach - always.

No requirement to deposit funds for extensions like Thailand, but the thought of having to leave Vietnam every 90 days and apply for a new extension outside Vietnam is not appealing.

Weather is crap in north Vietnam. Typhoons in coastal Vietnam are common and are not pleasant. I found coastal Vietnam to be Extremely windy.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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10 hours ago, jacko45k said:

How efficiently do they do things there? They have to plan it, get the details sorted and have it approved by an authoritarian government. Then comes implementation. Five years minimum?

Fair question.

As in most countries in South East Asia, I find things happen very slowly, or very quickly, and there's no formula to know which change will take what time.

It could be years away, or they soon announce this visa class starts on the 1/1/27.

Who knows? I just keep an open mind.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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On 9/9/2026 at 3:19 AM, BritManToo said:

Viet women are slimmer, prettier and more reasonably priced than Thai women these days.

And the country is far more interesting, and the Viet beaches don't have the bitey sand flies that are everywhere in Thailand.

No requirement to keep money sitting in Viet banks either.

I agree, and I also find the white skin that many Thai women aspire to is more prevalent in Vietnam.

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