snoop1130 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Producers Against American Pork Import Proposal by CityNews CityNews – A hundred pig farmers from Chiang Mai and Lamphun marched to the City Hall in Chiang Mai, protesting against a proposal by the United States to import pork to Thailand. On September 13th, after a rumour that United State Administration has been pushing Thai Government to buy pork from them, a protest group was formed to oppose the idea. According to the President of the Northern Pig Producer Association, the pork meat in Thailand is already over supplied with the selling price at just 57 to 58 baht per kilo, of which 55 to 56 baht are incurred in costs leaving just 1 or 2 baht profit per kilo. Full Story: http://www.chiangmaicitylife.com/news/producers-against-american-pork-import-proposal/ -- © Copyright Chiang City News 2017-9-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Thai's just hate competition, it's all got to be for them, hence, anything imported has huge taxes imposed on it. Where are all the supposed tax free items imported from other Asean countries ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, snoop1130 said: According to the President of the Northern Pig Producer Association, the pork meat in Thailand is already over supplied Pretty dumb Thai farmers again trying to create mountains of things they can't sell, rather than diversify. According to their statement, the price is already low as they are producing too much - talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno2 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 hour ago, trainman34014 said: Thai's just hate competition, it's all got to be for them, hence, anything imported has huge taxes imposed on it. Where are all the supposed tax free items imported from other Asean countries ? My car, which is made in another ASEAN country, Malaysia, costs 500,000 baht more in Thailand than the same car, made in Malaysia, sold in Australia, which is not an ASEAN country. TAX FREE asean items in THAILAND? not when they can rip people off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 4 hours ago, snoop1130 said: protesting against a proposal by the United States to import pork to Thailand. That's fine. The US might counter for example with higher import tariffs on Thai processed seafood. Thailand exported $1.1 billion in 2016 to the US. https://ethailand.com/featured-news/top-10-thailands-exports-to-usa-and-europe-where-and-why-they-differ/2347/ Allowing US pork into Thailand would be a small price to pay to maintain Thailand's Most Favored Nation (MFN) tariff rate which limits the ability of U.S. exporters of such products to compete in the Thai market. https://www.export.gov/article?id=Thailand-Import-Tariffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tango974 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 There is no need for Thailand to buy US pork Thailand is overprodroducing already Is pork meat coming from the US better than the thai pork ? i dont think so May be a lot of chemical is imported pork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Next week Americans ban imports from Thai. Thats life I expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALFREDO Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 7 hours ago, johnno2 said: My car, which is made in another ASEAN country, Malaysia, costs 500,000 baht more in Thailand than the same car, made in Malaysia, sold in Australia, which is not an ASEAN country. TAX FREE asean items in THAILAND? not when they can rip people off Can you specify the model and why does it come to that problem in price - I saw - PROTON - PERODUA - seem to come into Thailand at "Normal" prices. "for goods originating within ASEAN, ASEAN members are to apply a tariff rate of 0-5 %" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASEAN_Free_Trade_Area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) deleted as off topic Edited September 15, 2017 by Si Thea01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 "The selling price at just 57 to 58 baht per kilo", where is it been sold at that price ?, the prices in markets,supermarkets,and Makro is at least, 100 THB Kg. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenside Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Probably the farm gate pre-slaughtered/processed price, given that these are farmers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simosiam Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 American meat is dangerous for consumers. It's full of chemical and antibiotic. It can't be sold even in Europe market where there are clear regulations on farming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 13 hours ago, johnno2 said: My car, which is made in another ASEAN country, Malaysia, costs 500,000 baht more in Thailand than the same car, made in Malaysia, sold in Australia, which is not an ASEAN country. TAX FREE asean items in THAILAND? not when they can rip people off That's interesting....what is the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky mike Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Someone is making a bundle out of the pigs...we used to grow pigs on contract buy from breeder at about 20kg fatten them, using feed exclusively purchased from breeder sell them when they about 100 kg. Also we have no agreed price until pigs picked up...at the mercy of market forces ! Rarely was price good. So all we do is buy family a job and the cost of building. The last straw when they pickup pigs market only pay 54c per kg...no profit, visit supermarket that evening and saw retail price....end pig farming then and there. Nothing new multinationals 6 battlers nil ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I normally root for American products, but I agree with a few here that US pork is not needed here, the Thai pork is tastier, and what will they sell the imported pigs for?? Much higher priced I am sure............The US should back off that and export something that is not readily available in Thailand. Whats next?? Chicken?? Our Dept of Agriculture needs their head examined, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 With all of the growth hormones and garbage is hardly meat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALFREDO Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 6 hours ago, worgeordie said: "The selling price at just 57 to 58 baht per kilo", where is it been sold at that price ?, the prices in markets,supermarkets,and Makro is at least, 100 THB Kg. regards worgeordie 5 hours ago, Greenside said: Probably the farm gate pre-slaughtered/processed price, given that these are farmers. http://www.indexmundi.com/de/rohstoffpreise/?ware=schweinefleisch&wahrung=thb World Market price is about that = 57 Baht kg, 27 B. a pound meat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickudon Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Yes, smaller farmers only get 54 baht a kilo. That is of course liveweight. After slaughter you loose maybe 25%, so farmer gets about 72 baht deadweight. After slaughter costs, transport, wholesale and retail markup, you would have to pay more than 100 baht a kilo in the shops. Farmer works 4-6 months and happy to make 5 baht a kilo and shoulders most of the risk. The rest in the chain work for a day or two and make twice as much..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALFREDO Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 3 hours ago, rickudon said: Yes, smaller farmers only get 54 baht a kilo. That is of course liveweight. After slaughter you loose maybe 25%, so farmer gets about 72 baht deadweight. After slaughter costs, transport, wholesale and retail markup, you would have to pay more than 100 baht a kilo in the shops. Farmer works 4-6 months and happy to make 5 baht a kilo and shoulders most of the risk. The rest in the chain work for a day or two and make twice as much..... Prices I found are for - "Pigs (pork), 51-52% lean pigs" http://www.indexmundi.com/de/rohstoffpreise/?ware=schweinefleisch&wahrung=thb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno2 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 On 9/15/2017 at 10:09 AM, tryasimight said: That's interesting....what is the car? mazda cx5. I was also looking at the Subaru xv and it suffers the same fate, both made in malaysia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Just now, johnno2 said: mazda cx5. I was also looking at the Subaru xv and it suffers the same fate, both made in malaysia Really....I thought all the Mazdas were made in Thailand. My BT50 was. Learnt something new today. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno2 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) On 9/15/2017 at 4:32 AM, ALFREDO said: Can you specify the model and why does it come to that problem in price - I saw - PROTON - PERODUA - seem to come into Thailand at "Normal" prices. "for goods originating within ASEAN, ASEAN members are to apply a tariff rate of 0-5 %" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASEAN_Free_Trade_Area Thailand price for base models CX5........Mazda CX-5 ข้อมูลเฉพาะและราคา 2.0 C.............1,220,000 บาท Australian price for comparable model, this is the new model which isn't for sale yet in Thailand, here they are still getting rid of the last model ....MAZDA CX-5 Series MY17.5 (KF SERIES 2) MAXX SPORT (4x2) A$34,390 MRLP 34,390 AUD =909,384.62THB Edited September 18, 2017 by johnno2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno2 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 http://www.motortrader.com.my/news/the-models-built-in-malaysia-and-where-they-are-built/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno2 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 59 minutes ago, tryasimight said: Really....I thought all the Mazdas were made in Thailand. My BT50 was. Learnt something new today. Thanks. Construction of Mazda Malaysia's assembly facility, located on the same grounds as the body shop, started in May 2013. Construction will be completed and operations commence in the spring of next year. The Mazda CX-5, which is currently assembled at Inokom's factory, will then be moved to the new facility............http://www2.mazda.com/en/publicity/release/2013/201306/130605a.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Thea01 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, johnno2 said: Thailand price for base models CX5........Mazda CX-5 ข้อมูลเฉพาะและราคา 2.0 C.............1,220,000 บาท Australian price for comparable model, this is the new model which isn't for sale yet in Thailand, here they are still getting rid of the last model ....MAZDA CX-5 Series MY17.5 (KF SERIES 2) MAXX SPORT (4x2) A$34,390 MRLP 34,390 AUD =909,384.62THB Gee, a little off topic aren't we? What in the heck has it got to do with the cost of pork? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanpaul Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) The USA export only the pig part's to Thailand the americans not eat like pighead or legs and instestines. Edited September 18, 2017 by isaanpaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALFREDO Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 7 hours ago, johnno2 said: mazda cx5. I was also looking at the Subaru xv and it suffers the same fate, both made in malaysia So, better buy a car which is really made in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno2 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) 18 hours ago, Si Thea01 said: Gee, a little off topic aren't we? What in the heck has it got to do with the cost of pork? nothing, but as I was replying to post #3 where the question was asked "Where are all the supposed tax free items imported from other Asean countries ? ", it has a lot to do with Thailand imposing exorbitant taxes on ASEAN products. And in reply to this "So, better buy a car which is really made in Thailand. ", if there was a SUV made in Thailand which was of comparible quality and price to Mazda CX5 or Subaru XV, I would have Edited September 19, 2017 by johnno2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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