SunsetT Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 21 hours ago, amvet said: I completely agree with you but how do you tell this to the Thai medical establishment? Do they threaten to banish you from the country when you tell them this? No dont worry....Only 10 yrs imprisonment............Its the latest amendment to the lese majeste law........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 6 hours ago, tonray said: That must be why cold drinks warm you up in the dead of a Canadian winter....ha ha. I bet they also eat Pizza with pineapple...how can they be trusted ? Agreed, Anchovies absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemises Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Drinking cold water:- interferes with your digestive system - robs you of nutrients - increases your chances of getting a sore throat- decreases your heart ratehttp://www.thehealthsite.com/diseases-conditions/cold-water-po0315/Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Ask yourself why dont we have this knowledge in the West, and other parts of the World. Not that science is perfect but surely something as basic as this would be common medical knowledge Worldwide. No, it is pure mumbo jumbo probably originating from some witch doctor or shaman somewhere having to come up with some advice for everything to maintain his power and authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 hour ago, farcanell said: Sweet.... although the pinch of salt is usually reserved for tecquila Yes but you must suck lemon after the salt then the tequila, at least i think that's how the ritual goes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foozool Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) Very cold water slows down blood circulation and makes a good attack environment for present bacterias if there is any. She is right, but perhaps she does not know the reason. Edited September 16, 2017 by Foozool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, Foozool said: Very cold water slows down blood circulation and makes a good attack environment for present bacterias if there is any. She is right, but perhaps she does not know the reason. Utter nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foozool Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, tonray said: Utter nonsense. Thank you you keep it your own way. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, Gregster said: Drinking cold water: - interferes with your digestive system - robs you of nutrients - increases your chances of getting a sore throat - decreases your heart ratehttp://www.thehealthsite.com/diseases-conditions/cold-water-po0315/ Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Only the last claim # 4 has a ref. to the one Chinese? study cited; And begs the question; is the slight lowering of heart rate a bad thing? It is probably exactly what is required after vigorous exercise when we most appreciate a cold drink. Point # 3 is actually totally irrational:.... "Drinking cold water can cause the buildup of respiratory mucosa, which is a protective layer of the respiratory tract". It goes on to say: " When this layer gets congested, the respiratory tract is exposed and becomes vulnerable to various infections and hence the chances of your throat turning sore are high". Surely if the protective layer of mucosa is increased by drinking cold water, the respiratory tract become more protected not more "exposed"! Why do people read this stuff so uncritically? These so-called 'Health sites', magazines, etc., are nothing but the scare-mongering modern equivalent of shamans, witch doctors, etc. 99% of what they write is simply to try and sell you some quack medicine or therapy. I cant believe that Western educated people fall for it in this day and age! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemises Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Only the last claim # 4 has a ref. to the one Chinese? study cited; And begs the question; is the slight lowering of heart rate a bad thing? It is probably exactly what is required after vigorous exercise when we most appreciate a cold drink. Point # 3 is actually totally irrational:.... "Drinking cold water can cause the buildup of respiratory mucosa, which is a protective layer of the respiratory tract". It goes on to say: " When this layer gets congested, the respiratory tract is exposed and becomes vulnerable to various infections and hence the chances of your throat turning sore are high". Surely if the protective layer of mucosa is increased by drinking cold water, the respiratory tract become more protected not more "exposed"! Why do people read this stuff so uncritically? These so-called 'Health sites', magazines, etc., are nothing but the scare-mongering modern equivalent of shamans, witch doctors, etc. 99% of what they write is simply to try and sell you some quack medicine or therapy. I cant believe that Western educated people fall for it in this day and age!A google search of "harm of drinking cold water" returns approx 32,800,000 results. That's a lot of witch doctors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 4 hours ago, tryasimight said: Thanks for that. Might explain why I never see Chinese tourists in bars! No. they are too busy messing up all you can eat buffets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 42 minutes ago, SunsetT said: Only the last claim # 4 has a ref. to the one Chinese? study cited; And begs the question; is the slight lowering of heart rate a bad thing? It is probably exactly what is required after vigorous exercise when we most appreciate a cold drink. Point # 3 is actually totally irrational:.... "Drinking cold water can cause the buildup of respiratory mucosa, which is a protective layer of the respiratory tract". It goes on to say: " When this layer gets congested, the respiratory tract is exposed and becomes vulnerable to various infections and hence the chances of your throat turning sore are high". Surely if the protective layer of mucosa is increased by drinking cold water, the respiratory tract become more protected not more "exposed"! Why do people read this stuff so uncritically? These so-called 'Health sites', magazines, etc., are nothing but the scare-mongering modern equivalent of shamans, witch doctors, etc. 99% of what they write is simply to try and sell you some quack medicine or therapy. I cant believe that Western educated people fall for it in this day and age! It's all because grandma and grandpa didn't want to pay for the extra ice to cool the families drinking water, way back when. but the emporer, sure as sh**, had slaves bringing ice from the mountains to cool his water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 4 hours ago, sead said: A sore throat in Thailand is usually from the aircon I have had very few sore throats in Thailand, had more when I was back in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 38 minutes ago, Gregster said: A google search of "harm of drinking cold water" returns approx 32,800,000 results. That's a lot of witch doctors. There are a lot of quack health sites out there. Maybe 32000 are disputing it! .....Just quote me 5 reputable scientific studies verifying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madusa Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 If you had eaten deep fried stuffs sold at the stalls on streets or restaurant you would get sore throat. Have you look at the color of the oil they deep fried some foods? It's almost black, when you repeatedly re-heat those cooking oil at high temperature the molecular structure changed, they become free radicals, these free radicals destroy the cells in your body. Once you stop eating these bad foods you will find you are no longer tired all day long. Many Thais are ignorant of these facts and they look so listless and tired, not a healthy looking people. Warm or cold water cannot possibly give anyone sorethroat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemises Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 There are a lot of quack health sites out there. Maybe 32000 are disputing it! .....Just quote me 5 reputable scientific studies verifying it.32 MILLION say cold water is harmful... not "32000" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Gregster said: 32 MILLION say cold water is harmful... not "32000" Sorry I got the numbers wrong...BUT....No they dont! 32 million google references include the the subject matter of 'harm' and 'cold water', not necessarily in the same sentence let alone supporting the proposition, which is all it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyrobot Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 What about a cold beer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquis22 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Yes, it gives you an initial cold sore sensation but the body soon reacts and heats up the throat again so do not be too alarmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemises Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Sorry I got the numbers wrong...BUT....No they dont! 32 million google references include the the subject matter of 'harm' and 'cold water', not necessarily in the same sentence let alone supporting the proposition, which is all it is. Your apology is accepted. Time for a COLD beer...[emoji482] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partington Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 People who have not been educated in science, and do not have any real idea of how human bodies actually work can be persuaded of anything because they don't have the necessary resources to think it through. It would be analogous to telling an Amazonian villager that cars won't work properly if you don't kiss all four tyres before you get in. How could he know that wasn't true without a single idea how an internal combustion engine works? People who believe anything they read on random websites just need to read some books. Education destroys gullibility. By the way rhino horn is better than Viagra because a rhino horn looks like a vigorous penis. This must be true because rhino horn can be sold for more than gold is worth, and all these Chinese can't be wrong about that can they, with their ancient wisdom.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Monkeyrobot said: What about a cold beer ? Yep! Aussies should have permanently sore throats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 29 minutes ago, partington said: People who have not been educated in science, and do not have any real idea of how human bodies actually work can be persuaded of anything because they don't have the necessary resources to think it through. It would be analogous to telling an Amazonian villager that cars won't work properly if you don't kiss all four tyres before you get in. How could he know that wasn't true without a single idea how an internal combustion engine works? People who believe anything they read on random websites just need to read some books. Education destroys gullibility. By the way rhino horn is better than Viagra because a rhino horn looks like a vigorous penis. This must be true because rhino horn can be sold for more than gold is worth, and all these Chinese can't be wrong about that can they, with their ancient wisdom.... ....An Amazonian would soon know when, one day, he forgets to kiss the tyres and the car works anyway. .....What bewilders me is that so many very well educated Westerners still believe in so much quackery, today described as 'Alternative' ...........And some even follow David Icke...........! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/15/2017 at 3:59 PM, Sheryl said: Nothing at all wrong with drinking cool or cold water. Superstition. Gee, a simple google search returned some informative hits; however, I have always been one to do what feels good to me and I like ice cold drinks, especially in hot weather: Effects of Drinking Cold Water in the Summer Season — NEJM www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM183006150031804 Original and Selected Communications from The New England Journal of Medicine — Effects of Drinking Cold Water in the Summer Season. The effect of a cold beverage during an exercise session combining ... https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-9-44 by D LaFata - 2012 - Cited by 7 - Related articles Sep 19, 2012 - Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition20129:44 ... Drinking cold water can significantly mediate and delay the increase in core ... exercise performance (beta blockers), medical contraindications to exercise, an ... [PDF]Consuming warm water - European Journal of Pharmaceutical and ... www.ejpmr.com/admin/assets/article_issue/1435658742.pdf Jun 4, 2015 - tend to prefer it cold, but according to Ayurvedic medicine, we have it all wrong. Regularly drinking very warm water, especially in the morning ... Scientific Evidence-Based Effects of Hydrotherapy on Various Systems ... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › NCBI › Literature › PubMed Central (PMC) by A Mooventhan - 2014 - Cited by 38 - Related articles Articles published from 1986 to 2012 were included in this review. ... Cold water immersion (CWI) induces significant physiological and biochemical .... loss of about 1.2 kg/year suggesting that water drinking could assist overweight children in ... The effect of water temperature and voluntary drinking on the post ... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3762624/ by A Hosseinlou - 2013 - Cited by 4 - Related articles Sep 1, 2013 - This article has been cited by other articles in PMC. ... After dehydration, subjects were allowed to drink water with ... The study was reviewed and approved by the Investigation Committee of Tabriz University of Medical Sciences. .... to ingested water temperature; being the lowest in trial of cold water (5°C) ... Abstract · Introduction · Materials and methods · Discussion Water Temperature, Voluntary Drinking and Fluid Balance in ... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › NCBI › Literature › PubMed Central (PMC) by S Khamnei - 2011 - Cited by 11 - Related articles Dec 1, 2011 - This article has been cited by other articles in PMC. ... Unlike the publicly held view, drinking cold water (~5°C) does not improve voluntary .... In sport medicine, the level of dehydration is quantified by the amount of weight loss ... Effects of drinking hot water, cold water, and chicken soup on nasal ... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/359266 by K Saketkhoo - 1978 - Cited by 89 - Related articles Effects of drinking hot water, cold water, and chicken soup on nasal mucus ... Hot water by sip increased nasal mucus velocity from 6.2 to 8.4 mm per min, hot ... Hot Temperature*; Humans; Male; Medicine, Traditional*; Mucus/physiology* ... Water, Hydration and Health - NCBI - NIH https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › NCBI › Literature › PubMed Central (PMC) by BM Popkin - 2010 - Cited by 380 - Related articles See other articles in PMC that cite the published article. Go to: .... that need to be eliminated. Consequently, drinking enough water helps protect this vital organ. ASSA13-14-18 Cold Water Drinking Increases Blood Pressure in ... heart.bmj.com › Archive › Volume 99, Issue Suppl 1 by S Hai - 2013 - Cited by 1 - Related articles Objective Blood pressure (BP) increases when body surface exposures to cold stimulate, but the effect of cold drinking on BP has not been fully evaluated. Drinking cold water & other 19th century causes of death - Shannon ... shannonselin.com/2016/10/drinking-cold-water-causes-death/ Oct 23, 2016 - "Drinking cold water" is one of the unusual causes of death and ... An article published in the American Journal of Forensic Medicine and .. 8 Hidden Dangers of Drinking Ice Water | Health - BabaMail www.ba-bamail.com › Health & Lifestyle › Health The weight loss tip for drinking lots of cold water to force the body into doing more work and thus burn more calories isn't completely true. This is because cold ... What is the advantage and disadvantage of drinking cold water? - Quora https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-advantage-and-disadvantage-of-drinking-cold-water If you a person is overheating and conscious, having them drink cool water can help reduce their temperature. Similarly, if a person is hypothermic, giving them ice water is not the best idea. What drinking cold water does to your body will shock you! - Read ... www.thehealthsite.com/diseases-conditions/cold-water-po0315/ Mar 4, 2015 - Are you drinking cold water from the fridge this summer? DON'T! You have been warned... Is Drinking Cold Water Bad For Your Health? | HelloBeautiful https://hellobeautiful.com/1744005/is-drinking-cold-water-bad-for-you/ Doctors say that drinking water at room temperature is better because the body has to use energy to heat the cold water to body temperature which will result in water loss. ... On the flip side of this, people who tend to drink cold water drink more of it than people who drink warm water because it is more satisying. Why Is Drinking Cold Water Bad For You? - CureJoy https://www.curejoy.com/content/never-drink-ice-water/ Drinking cold water, especially in summer, feels heavenly. It helps you cool down in a matter of seconds. But ever thought about how it might be harming your ... NATURAL HEALING: The dangers of drinking cold water – Dominica ... dominicanewsonline.com/news/.../narural-healing-the-dangers-of-drinking-cold-water... Jul 28, 2012 - When we drink ice-cold water, juice, or any ice-cold fluids, we create the basis for chronic diseases. If you purchase a bowl of cow's blood at the ... Disadvantages Of Drinking Cold Water Read Here Waploaded.com https://wap.waploaded.com › Forum › Health Dec 13, 2016 - We all agree that nothing beats the s£nsat!on you get when you down a bottle of cold water or soda when you are hot. That chilling and... Dangers Of Drinking Cold Water ▷ NAIJ.COM https://www.naij.com › ✔ Health and beauty Naij.com News ☆ Experts have said as rewarding as drinking cold water can be, it could come with serious health consequences. Which Is Better, Drinking Ice Water or Warm Water? - Livestrong.com www.livestrong.com › Food and Drink Apr 14, 2015 - Iced or room temperature? When it comes to deciding between ice water and warm water for hydration, the good news is that in most cases ... Why Cold Water Is Bad For You - Free People Blog blog.freepeople.com/2014/10/cold-water-bad/ Oct 6, 2014 - When cold water hits the stomach, the body is forced to use energy in ... Once you get into the habit of drinking water at room temperature or ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amvet Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 7 hours ago, Gregster said: Drinking cold water: - interferes with your digestive system - robs you of nutrients - increases your chances of getting a sore throat - decreases your heart ratehttp://www.thehealthsite.com/diseases-conditions/cold-water-po0315/ Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Now my wife and Thai doctor will tell me they were right and I Mr. Know It. All was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partington Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 2 hours ago, smotherb said: Gee, a simple google search returned some informative hits; however, I have always been one to do what feels good to me and I like ice cold drinks, especially in hot weather: Effects of Drinking Cold Water in the Summer Season — NEJM www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM183006150031804 Original and Selected Communications from The New England Journal of Medicine — Effects of Drinking Cold Water in the Summer Season. The effect of a cold beverage during an exercise session combining ... https://jissn.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1550-2783-9-44 by D LaFata - 2012 - Cited by 7 - Related articles Sep 19, 2012 - Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition20129:44 ... Drinking cold water can significantly mediate and delay the increase in core ... exercise performance (beta blockers), medical contraindications to exercise, an ... [PDF]Consuming warm water - European Journal of Pharmaceutical and ... www.ejpmr.com/admin/assets/article_issue/1435658742.pdf Jun 4, 2015 - tend to prefer it cold, but according to Ayurvedic medicine, we have it all wrong. Regularly drinking very warm water, especially in the morning ... Scientific Evidence-Based Effects of Hydrotherapy on Various Systems ... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › NCBI › Literature › PubMed Central (PMC) by A Mooventhan - 2014 - Cited by 38 - Related articles Articles published from 1986 to 2012 were included in this review. ... Cold water immersion (CWI) induces significant physiological and biochemical .... loss of about 1.2 kg/year suggesting that water drinking could assist overweight children in ... The effect of water temperature and voluntary drinking on the post ... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3762624/ by A Hosseinlou - 2013 - Cited by 4 - Related articles Sep 1, 2013 - This article has been cited by other articles in PMC. ... After dehydration, subjects were allowed to drink water with ... The study was reviewed and approved by the Investigation Committee of Tabriz University of Medical Sciences. .... to ingested water temperature; being the lowest in trial of cold water (5°C) ... Abstract · Introduction · Materials and methods · Discussion Water Temperature, Voluntary Drinking and Fluid Balance in ... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › NCBI › Literature › PubMed Central (PMC) by S Khamnei - 2011 - Cited by 11 - Related articles Dec 1, 2011 - This article has been cited by other articles in PMC. ... Unlike the publicly held view, drinking cold water (~5°C) does not improve voluntary .... In sport medicine, the level of dehydration is quantified by the amount of weight loss ... Effects of drinking hot water, cold water, and chicken soup on nasal ... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/359266 by K Saketkhoo - 1978 - Cited by 89 - Related articles Effects of drinking hot water, cold water, and chicken soup on nasal mucus ... Hot water by sip increased nasal mucus velocity from 6.2 to 8.4 mm per min, hot ... Hot Temperature*; Humans; Male; Medicine, Traditional*; Mucus/physiology* ... Water, Hydration and Health - NCBI - NIH https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › NCBI › Literature › PubMed Central (PMC) by BM Popkin - 2010 - Cited by 380 - Related articles See other articles in PMC that cite the published article. Go to: .... that need to be eliminated. Consequently, drinking enough water helps protect this vital organ. ASSA13-14-18 Cold Water Drinking Increases Blood Pressure in ... heart.bmj.com › Archive › Volume 99, Issue Suppl 1 by S Hai - 2013 - Cited by 1 - Related articles Objective Blood pressure (BP) increases when body surface exposures to cold stimulate, but the effect of cold drinking on BP has not been fully evaluated. Drinking cold water & other 19th century causes of death - Shannon ... shannonselin.com/2016/10/drinking-cold-water-causes-death/ Oct 23, 2016 - "Drinking cold water" is one of the unusual causes of death and ... An article published in the American Journal of Forensic Medicine and .. 8 Hidden Dangers of Drinking Ice Water | Health - BabaMail www.ba-bamail.com › Health & Lifestyle › Health The weight loss tip for drinking lots of cold water to force the body into doing more work and thus burn more calories isn't completely true. This is because cold ... What is the advantage and disadvantage of drinking cold water? - Quora https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-advantage-and-disadvantage-of-drinking-cold-water If you a person is overheating and conscious, having them drink cool water can help reduce their temperature. Similarly, if a person is hypothermic, giving them ice water is not the best idea. What drinking cold water does to your body will shock you! - Read ... www.thehealthsite.com/diseases-conditions/cold-water-po0315/ Mar 4, 2015 - Are you drinking cold water from the fridge this summer? DON'T! You have been warned... Is Drinking Cold Water Bad For Your Health? | HelloBeautiful https://hellobeautiful.com/1744005/is-drinking-cold-water-bad-for-you/ Doctors say that drinking water at room temperature is better because the body has to use energy to heat the cold water to body temperature which will result in water loss. ... On the flip side of this, people who tend to drink cold water drink more of it than people who drink warm water because it is more satisying. Why Is Drinking Cold Water Bad For You? - CureJoy https://www.curejoy.com/content/never-drink-ice-water/ Drinking cold water, especially in summer, feels heavenly. It helps you cool down in a matter of seconds. But ever thought about how it might be harming your ... NATURAL HEALING: The dangers of drinking cold water – Dominica ... dominicanewsonline.com/news/.../narural-healing-the-dangers-of-drinking-cold-water... Jul 28, 2012 - When we drink ice-cold water, juice, or any ice-cold fluids, we create the basis for chronic diseases. If you purchase a bowl of cow's blood at the ... Disadvantages Of Drinking Cold Water Read Here Waploaded.com https://wap.waploaded.com › Forum › Health Dec 13, 2016 - We all agree that nothing beats the s£nsat!on you get when you down a bottle of cold water or soda when you are hot. That chilling and... Dangers Of Drinking Cold Water ▷ NAIJ.COM https://www.naij.com › ✔ Health and beauty Naij.com News ☆ Experts have said as rewarding as drinking cold water can be, it could come with serious health consequences. Which Is Better, Drinking Ice Water or Warm Water? - Livestrong.com www.livestrong.com › Food and Drink Apr 14, 2015 - Iced or room temperature? When it comes to deciding between ice water and warm water for hydration, the good news is that in most cases ... Why Cold Water Is Bad For You - Free People Blog blog.freepeople.com/2014/10/cold-water-bad/ Oct 6, 2014 - When cold water hits the stomach, the body is forced to use energy in ... Once you get into the habit of drinking water at room temperature or ... These are not informative hits since they have nothing at all to do with the original post asking whether drinking cold water is bad for sore throats, or whether this is unscientific rubbish. You have simply lazily gathered hits that contain certain key words and not read them. I could do the same with alien abductions. So what? The first nine of your citations are scientific (or pseudoscientific) papers but they have little or nothing to do with the original question . The rest are the nonsensical blogs I was talking about with no scientific basis at all (basically anything ending in .com), ie just some tosser writing something on a website he's bought access to. I will ignore those. The first scientific paper is from 1830, which predates modern scientific medicine, and so means nothing! The second says drinking cold water during exercise may possibly improve performance but results were not significant (means they admit the results could have happened by chance alone), ie means nothing. The third is a rubbish journal saying warm water is great with no research. The fourth is a report of literature search with no research, as much about dipping people bodily in water as drinking it. The fifth says it may be better to drink cool 16°C water after exercise as you sweat less with little compelling evidence and the sixth agrees, however neither say saying drinking 5°C water is worse, merely not better. The sixth says cold water may slightly slow mucus flow in the nose and this may be less good for infections as it increases time that viruses are in contact with the mucosa and so might infect, but they stress there is no evidence that this is actually true in the sense that cold water worsens infections. The seventh says drinking 5°C water can increase blood pressure by about 3mm Hg for 22min, an observation with little or no health implications. The eighth is a generalised review of water intake and hydration and doesn't mention temperature of consumed water at all. The ninth is an tongue in cheek article making fun of nineteenth century beliefs in reports that people died of drinking cold water. All the rest are evidence-free nonsense blogs or forums. This is why Googling stuff with no critical analysis is just a waste of time. Of course you can find articles that literally make any claim imaginable, about any subject. You have to work out how much to trust them, and work at it, not just believe "hits" as you have done. I could find you hits saying the British Royal Family are lizard people from outer space. So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 4 hours ago, partington said: could find you hits saying the British Royal Family are lizard people from outer space. So? Actually they are lizard people from Greece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 (edited) What's a gee doctor? Edited September 16, 2017 by simon43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 19 hours ago, possum1931 said: Good advice, but who are the people giving advice who believe in superstition and amulets and base it on their medical advice? I would imagine Thai doctors and nurses would act on what they are taught during their training, and a lot of them are trained in Western countries. And perhaps what affects their income if they are working at a larger hospital! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemises Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 These are not informative hits since they have nothing at all to do with the original post asking whether drinking cold water is bad for sore throats, or whether this is unscientific rubbish. You have simply lazily gathered hits that contain certain key words and not read them. I could do the same with alien abductions. So what? The first nine of your citations are scientific (or pseudoscientific) papers but they have little or nothing to do with the original question . The rest are the nonsensical blogs I was talking about with no scientific basis at all (basically anything ending in .com), ie just some tosser writing something on a website he's bought access to. I will ignore those. The first scientific paper is from 1830, which predates modern scientific medicine, and so means nothing! The second says drinking cold water during exercise may possibly improve performance but results were not significant (means they admit the results could have happened by chance alone), ie means nothing. The third is a rubbish journal saying warm water is great with no research. The fourth is a report of literature search with no research, as much about dipping people bodily in water as drinking it. The fifth says it may be better to drink cool 16°C water after exercise as you sweat less with little compelling evidence and the sixth agrees, however neither say saying drinking 5°C water is worse, merely not better. The sixth says cold water may slightly slow mucus flow in the nose and this may be less good for infections as it increases time that viruses are in contact with the mucosa and so might infect, but they stress there is no evidence that this is actually true in the sense that cold water worsens infections. The seventh says drinking 5°C water can increase blood pressure by about 3mm Hg for 22min, an observation with little or no health implications. The eighth is a generalised review of water intake and hydration and doesn't mention temperature of consumed water at all. The ninth is an tongue in cheek article making fun of nineteenth century beliefs in reports that people died of drinking cold water. All the rest are evidence-free nonsense blogs or forums. This is why Googling stuff with no critical analysis is just a waste of time. Of course you can find articles that literally make any claim imaginable, about any subject. You have to work out how much to trust them, and work at it, not just believe "hits" as you have done. I could find you hits saying the British Royal Family are lizard people from outer space. So?Just wondering if you can provide any trustworthy "hits" that say drinking very cold water does NOT cause sore throats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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