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Politicians share concerns over election timetable

By The Sunday Nation

 

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KEY POLITICAL figures have jointly voiced concern about the uncertainty in the election timeline due to various factors, including the enactment of organic laws and the issue of reconciliation. But they agreed that the best timing for the poll would be late next year, following the junta’s road map.

 

Pheu Thai’s Sudarat Keyuraphan, Democrat Ong-art Klampaiboon, and Bhumjaithai’s Anutin Charnvirakul took part in a panel discussion, “Thailand’s road map, how far is it”, organised by Isra Institute’s 7th Media Executives Class on yesterday.

 

Sudarat said at this point nobody could said when the election would be held – not even prime minister Prayut Chan-o-cha – because a great deal of uncertainty lay ahead, especially concerning enactment of the organic laws. But if there is no election in the next one or two years, Sudarat believed that the country and its people would suffer due to effects of the uncertainty on the economy.

 

Ong-art said the road map determines that the election be held late next year, but considering signs sent by the premier himself, reconciliation would be a critical factor affecting that timetable. Nobody was certain whether all the concerned parties had come to terms with reconciliation yet.

 

Anutin said despite the uncertainty, he believed that the election would take place sooner rather than later, as the junta government could not prolong its term any further. Anutin predicted that it would fall somewhere in 2018.

 

“To prevent unpleasant reactions, PM Prayut must keep his word and follow the road map,” said Anutin, adding that those who came to politics in the future should not act as “a fish of two waters” to confuse matters again.

 

Sudarat said her party could not convene a meeting yet, although some suggested that she might take over as leader. She said her party’s stance still remained the same, which is protecting the constitutional monarchy from any sanctions, including future coups.

 

Ong-art said of politics after the election that parties should be allowed to have the freedom to propose their leaders for the role of premier.

The idea of a “national government” is a matter for the future, and the picture of Thai politics would become clearer when an election is held, he said.

 

‘Revive trust’

 

Anutin said it would be the worst nightmare if the appointed senators selected the premier, |as that could shake political stability.

 

He urged concerned parties to allow politics to proceed naturally, allowing parties to compete in an agreeable and acceptable system.

 

Associate Professor Prinya Thaewanarumitkul, of Thammasat University’s Law Faculty, said enactment of the organic laws had become a factor for the election. The Constitution Drafting Commission did not write into the charter what to |do next if the laws were not completed within the deadline, suggesting room for the junta to drag its heels on calling an election, he said.

 

Prinya said politicians should show some spirit and help revive trust in democracy among the people by respecting the rules. This could help bring the election nearer to reality, he added.

 

Prinya, however, believed that “hybrid” politics – where the elected MPs would work alongside the selected senators – would prevail in the short term. It was questionable whether this was the best option for the country, although this was the plan for the first five years.

 

He suggested that all parties allow the senators to work freely, including in voting for a new prime minister. All parties in conflict, be they ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra or the junta itself, should step back and allow the politicians and senators to work for the people, he said.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30327505

 

 
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1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

Associate Professor Prinya Thaewanarumitkul, of Thammasat University’s Law Faculty, said enactment of the organic laws had become a factor for the election. The Constitution Drafting Commission did not write into the charter what to |do next if the laws were not completed within the deadline, suggesting room for the junta to drag its heels on calling an election, he said.

 

Prinya said politicians should show some spirit and help revive trust in democracy among the people by respecting the rules. This could help bring the election nearer to reality, he added.

 

Prinya, however, believed that “hybrid” politics – where the elected MPs would work alongside the selected senators – would prevail in the short term. It was questionable whether this was the best option for the country, although this was the plan for the first five years.

 

He suggested that all parties allow the senators to work freely, including in voting for a new prime minister. All parties in conflict, be they ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra or the junta itself, should step back and allow the politicians and senators to work for the people, he said.

 

This guy is absolutely full of it.

 

Politicians should respect the rules of democracy? How does he refer to the coup? As a 'get out the vote' democratic exercise?

 

"Hybrid Politics"? You mean a process whereby some voices represent the electorate, while other represent the military/elite? Other than through the use of force, what is the legitimacy of the military/elite voice?

 

All parties , especially Thaksin (Reds) and the Military should step back? Or put another way, the Dems should govern as their party is the only "representative" one. Self-entitled nonsense. The Dems seem determined to get into power by the only means that they can- by NOT earning it.

 

What a glorious future...

 

 

Edited by Samui Bodoh
is the ONLY legitimate one. Whta a complete pile of nonsense.
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3 hours ago, rooster59 said:

revive trust in democracy among the people by respecting the rules

How to revive democracy: by respecting the rules of a regime that overthrew democracy. A Thai Paradox, by Associate Professor Prinya Thaewanarumitkul, a deep thinker.

Posted
4 hours ago, rooster59 said:

But they agreed that the best timing for the poll would be late next year, following the junta’s road map.

Red for danger, or very danger, as my kids used to say.

They, the 'key political figures', were playing the AC/DC hit at the time . . . we all know the one . . . Highway to Hell. Come tomorrow, they'll have shredded the map, along with the food wrappers and put it down to 'the enactment of an organic law'. Where the hell do they dig up these heavenly sounding reasons for something not going to plan? The whole thing is becoming a joke which, soon, the whole world will be laughing at. And Prayut will still be trying to find his A to Z guide to nowhere.

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4 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Prinya said politicians should show some spirit and help revive trust in democracy among the people by respecting the rules. This could help bring the election nearer to reality, he added.

Sort of like setting the Christmas on fire and then expecting to have a normal Christmas.  Coups are easy.  They are just military exercises.  Even flawed representative governments are difficult to maintain.  Thailand loves taking shortcuts and the easy way out of things and it shows.    

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31 minutes ago, Ossy said:

The whole thing is becoming a joke which, soon, the whole world will be laughing at. And Prayut will still be trying to find his A to Z guide to nowhere.

For folks like us who moved out of Thailand after it was obvious the Junta had no intention of releasing Thailand

We have to be honest, The world has been laughing for quite some time now.

If Thailand had anything of value one of the usual countries would have stepped in by now & put this toy soldier military down

 

But since Thailand has nothing to trade the Thai people will have to instigate the change themselves. (As it should be anyway)

But they can be sure outside countries would not stand aside though , if the military tried real to use force on its populace.

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Before they have an election they need create some laws about Vote Buying because if you sell your vote you are probably going to elect an incompetent corrupt official. In my village of 1200, 600 votes were bought for about 2M baht. He won the election but he wasn't the best qualified. So Thailand needs two laws. First, if a candidate buys a vote, he  needs to get a 5 year prison term plus banned for life for holding political office. Second, if you sell your vote, a fine of 2000-5000 baht based on how much you received and a a one year suspended jail term. This is the only way Thailand will become a True Democracy.

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Looks like the line up of party leaders for the next election. Someone is conspicuously missing. If those are the leaders of the main parties, there is chance for a coalition to prevent the upper house to appoint an non elected PM. That will be good for democracy.

Posted
52 minutes ago, mania said:

For folks like us who moved out of Thailand after it was obvious the Junta had no intention of releasing Thailand

We have to be honest, The world has been laughing for quite some time now.

If Thailand had anything of value one of the usual countries would have stepped in by now & put this toy soldier military down

 

But since Thailand has nothing to trade the Thai people will have to instigate the change themselves. (As it should be anyway)

But they can be sure outside countries would not stand aside though , if the military tried real to use force on its populace.

Yes . . . fair comment. It is starting to feel like the world doesn't care any more. I'm looking forward to Prayut's meeting with Trump, next month. That should be a 'good' indicator, depending on what mood DT is in :smile:

Posted

. . . following the junta’s road map

 

Haven't the dinosaurs running the country heard of sat nav? No wonder they keep getting lost. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Ossy said:

 I'm looking forward to Prayut's meeting with Trump, next month. That should be a 'good' indicator, depending on what mood DT is in :smile:

I bet a dollar to a doughnut that meeting will never happen.

The US may "act" cordial  but I highly doubt they would entertain a  Junta appointed person claiming to be a PM & claiming to represent a country

Posted
2 hours ago, tomwct said:

Before they have an election they need create some laws about Vote Buying because if you sell your vote you are probably going to elect an incompetent corrupt official. In my village of 1200, 600 votes were bought for about 2M baht. He won the election but he wasn't the best qualified. So Thailand needs two laws. First, if a candidate buys a vote, he  needs to get a 5 year prison term plus banned for life for holding political office. Second, if you sell your vote, a fine of 2000-5000 baht based on how much you received and a a one year suspended jail term. This is the only way Thailand will become a True Democracy.

If you think that anyone is going to vote for whoever pays them instead of taking the money and voting for their party of choice, then you're a bigger mug than they are.

 

You should also realise that ALL parties buy votes, not just the party which you dislike the most and like to villify. The bought votes therefore should cancel each other out.

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It's all Bullshit. I had a organic crap this morning and still went to training. 

A election can be held anytime. Just a regime that wants to standover and destroy for as long as possible..There making to much cash. I wipe my ass on organic paper.

Posted
3 hours ago, mania said:

I bet a dollar to a doughnut that meeting will never happen.

The US may "act" cordial  but I highly doubt they would entertain a  Junta appointed person claiming to be a PM & claiming to represent a country

In that same context, I was dismayed to see Tillerson giving him his hand, after his 'crucial' trade and defence talks with P2. And the world press confirms that the official invite has been made.

 

If Trump stoops so low, it will just about snap the remaining thread of credibility I hold for him . . . and I so wanted him to show Mrs Clinton how the US top-gun should do the job. And strange they agreed on October for the visit, it being the King's funeral.

Posted
7 hours ago, Ossy said:

If Trump stoops so low, it will just about snap the remaining thread of credibility I hold for him . . . and I so wanted him to show Mrs Clinton how the US top-gun should do the job. And strange they agreed on October for the visit, it being the King's funeral.

 

As an American I'm also extremely disappointed that Trump is willing to even talk to the guy who overthrew the democratically elected LOS government—even as flawed as it was.

 

Regarding Hillary, I don't care about her political party affiliation, I just want to see the damn career criminal in jail with her equally guilty POS husband.

Posted
11 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

. . . following the junta’s road map

 

Haven't the dinosaurs running the country heard of sat nav? No wonder they keep getting lost. 

The dinos couldn't find their own a***holes using both hands, maps and sat navs...

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