Report points finger at police officer for helping Yingluck flee into Cambodia

[jaywalker]

Just now, moondoggie said:

Yingluck is a pig and a old one at that. 50+ yrs. LOL

Me too! 

[AGareth2]

they just love their finger pointing

must say she is getting a lot of press

Won't make the Prawit happy

[moondoggie]

53 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Oh, come on!  These silly stories being put out from official sources and dutifully retailed by the tame Thai media really are getting beyond a joke.

 

The woman was on 30 million baht bail, for Pete's sake, and on the brink of being sentenced.

 

Is the regime seriously expecting an incredulous world to believe that, having seen her alleged fellow conspirator get a huge jail sentence, Yingluck might well have wished to escape? And that, with all the hi-tech security apparatus at their disposal, her movements weren't being minutely monitored around the clock to thwart this possibility"

 

If she really did slip through their fingers, the junta deserves to go down as one of the most incompetent in the nation's history.

 

Small wonder the international media continues to speculate about them looking the other way to get rid of major thorn in their side without making Yingluck martyr and possibly sparking a peasants' uprising.

 

There are still a few stones yet to be turned as the halfhearted "hunt" for the fugitive ex-PM rambles on.

 

A month after her vanishing act, we have not heard a peep from Yingluck's 10-year old son and his father, whom I gather are still in Thailand. It is hard to believe that neither of them have been left for over a month with no idea where Mummy has gone or how she got there.  Has anybody thought to ask them the obvious questions?

 

In the West, reporters would have been doorstepping Yingluck's family and splashing heartbreaking stories about the loved ones she left behind and their take on her disappearance. Yet all we get here is a succession of conflicting official stories about as hard to swallow as week-old somtam. What a pathetic farce.

Why didn't she have a ankle bracelet gps.

[AGareth2]

2 minutes ago, moondoggie said:

Why didn't she have a ankle bracelet gps.

not fashionable

[LannaGuy]

[chrisinth]

Please forgive me for being a bit skeptical about all this, but even if it was proved that Police Colonel Chairit Anurit did in fact drive the car, how many would believe that he took it on his own back to hatch the plan, address the logistics and approach Yingluk to talk her into the journey?

 

K. Chairit is the member of an organization that runs through a tier system of authority. In other words, the organization exists because the members follow orders.

 

Using him as a scrapegoat and ending the story there is BS IMO 

[halloween]

2 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

Oh, come on!  These silly stories being put out from official sources and dutifully retailed by the tame Thai media really are getting beyond a joke.

 

The woman was on 30 million baht bail, for Pete's sake, and on the brink of being sentenced.

 

Is the regime seriously expecting an incredulous world to believe that, having seen her alleged fellow conspirator get a huge jail sentence, Yingluck might well have wished to escape? And that, with all the hi-tech security apparatus at their disposal, her movements weren't being minutely monitored around the clock to thwart this possibility"

 

If she really did slip through their fingers, the junta deserves to go down as one of the most incompetent in the nation's history.

 

Small wonder the international media continues to speculate about them looking the other way to get rid of major thorn in their side without making Yingluck martyr and possibly sparking a peasants' uprising.

 

There are still a few stones yet to be turned as the halfhearted "hunt" for the fugitive ex-PM rambles on.

 

A month after her vanishing act, we have not heard a peep from Yingluck's 10-year old son and his father, whom I gather are still in Thailand. It is hard to believe that neither of them have been left for over a month with no idea where Mummy has gone or how she got there.  Has anybody thought to ask them the obvious questions?

 

In the West, reporters would have been doorstepping Yingluck's family and splashing heartbreaking stories about the loved ones she left behind and their take on her disappearance. Yet all we get here is a succession of conflicting official stories about as hard to swallow as week-old somtam. What a pathetic farce.

How did Yingluk see her  "alleged fellow conspirator get a huge jail sentence" prompting her to skip bail when it happened 2 days after she left the country? Fortune teller, crystal ball perhaps?

 

Whose job is it to ensure those on bail don't skip the country, the government, the military, or the police? Your concept of a "peasant's uprising" is interesting, if rather fanciful, but the martyr decided she wouldn't risk 10 years of her life on it being a non-event.

[halloween]

3 hours ago, yellowboat said:

Did not expect such an easy escape though.  Walking through casinos in Cambodia.  Don't the Thaksin hating elite own them ?  Don't most casinos have functioning surveillance ? If your piece of the puzzle is, in fact, the whole puzzle, your junta's ineptitude has now entered uncharted waters.  On the other hand, if they looked the other way, it is the first smart thing they have done in over three years. 

Has it been proven yet that she exited via a casino? My comment was revealed, as in up to now, I prefer not to speculate on the unknown. Of course her supporters will claim the junta is either complicit or incompetent, if only as a distraction from the fact that their favourite corrupt politician did a runner, aided and abetted by corrupt police. Plus a few distortions involving chronology, such as who can blame her after Boonsong's big sentence.

[halloween]

1 hour ago, chrisinth said:

Please forgive me for being a bit skeptical about all this, but even if it was proved that Police Colonel Chairit Anurit did in fact drive the car, how many would believe that he took it on his own back to hatch the plan, address the logistics and approach Yingluk to talk her into the journey?

 

K. Chairit is the member of an organization that runs through a tier system of authority. In other words, the organization exists because the members follow orders.

 

Using him as a scrapegoat and ending the story there is BS IMO 

He has claimed he was ordered by a senior officer. Some of the rankings mentioned seem to fit Priewpan Damapong, her BIL and member of yet another linked corrupt family, but I have been unable to ascertain his current position/location.

 

You may remember that it was illegally shuffling others around so that he could be promoted that led to her dismissal.

[dick turpin]

4 hours ago, Ossy said:

Mmm . . . what awaits this brave officer: promotion or prison. What's the betting it'll be decided by him and his boss, Srivara, playing rock-paper-scissors. That way, no-one's responsible . . . sounds junta perfect.

Or the harshest punishment of all.

 

Oh no, have mercy, not.......transfer to an inactive post.

 

[irwinfc]

just one police officer?!?! how convenient!

 

6 hours ago, garbolino said:

we need Colombo and Sherlock to sort this mess out !!

Harry and Lloyd are enough for this one. too many authorities playing dumb, dumber, and "dumberer".

[yellowboat]

1 hour ago, halloween said:

Has it been proven yet that she exited via a casino? My comment was revealed, as in up to now, I prefer not to speculate on the unknown. Of course her supporters will claim the junta is either complicit or incompetent, if only as a distraction from the fact that their favourite corrupt politician did a runner, aided and abetted by corrupt police. Plus a few distortions involving chronology, such as who can blame her after Boonsong's big sentence.

The good deputy prime made the casino assertion.  How are there more than two choices : complicit or incompetent ?  Perhaps a cunning plan similar to a bad George Clooney / Dean Martin movie ?  

 

We all know the gorgeous ex prime minister disappeared and the junta is going through the motions to figure out how.  There are some believable touches of buffoonery such as fake license plates and confessions that ring credible.   

[Basil B]

Try that in the UK, we have a system ANPR cameras that if a vehicle that was not registered, taxed, MOT'ed or insured would soon be pulled.

 

Just proves how corrupt and backwards Thailand is.

[halloween]

23 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

The good deputy prime made the casino assertion.  How are there more than two choices : complicit or incompetent ?  Perhaps a cunning plan similar to a bad George Clooney / Dean Martin movie ?  

 

We all know the gorgeous ex prime minister disappeared and the junta is going through the motions to figure out how.  There are some believable touches of buffoonery such as fake license plates and confessions that ring credible.   

No, he didn't. "Deputy Prime Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan on Friday said he believed that former PM Yingluck Shinawatra had fled the country via the Aranyaprathet border in Sa Kaew province." 

Of course, you may have a definite statement made since Friday evening??

[Ossy]

6 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Try that in the UK, we have a system ANPR cameras that if a vehicle that was not registered, taxed, MOT'ed or insured would soon be pulled.

 

Just proves how corrupt and backwards Thailand is.

I'll tell you what, though, Basil . . . most Thai cars look like they've just come out the car-wash; taxed, tested, tyred or otherwise . . . a matter of priorities, I guess.

[Juan B Tong]

August 23.  Soi 23. License plate XX23.

 

I am shopping for this number on a lottery ticket for sure!

 

 

Edited September 24, 2017 by Juan B Tong

[Krataiboy]

9 hours ago, halloween said:

How did Yingluk see her  "alleged fellow conspirator get a huge jail sentence" prompting her to skip bail when it happened 2 days after she left the country? Fortune teller, crystal ball perhaps?

 

Whose job is it to ensure those on bail don't skip the country, the government, the military, or the police? Your concept of a "peasant's uprising" is interesting, if rather fanciful, but the martyr decided she wouldn't risk 10 years of her life on it being a non-event.

How did Yingluk see her  "alleged fellow conspirator get a huge jail sentence" prompting her to skip bail when it happened 2 days after she left the country? Fortune teller, crystal ball perhaps?

 

No crystal ball required. She failed to attend court (for what her lawyer said were "medical reasons") later on the same day (Friday, August 25) that five of her fellow accused were handed swingeing jail sentences. 

 

Whose job is it to ensure those on bail don't skip the country, the government, the military, or the police?

 

Academic, but if I had as much egg on my face as the generals I would definitely be looking to pass the buck.

Let's be honest. From the government's viewpoint, Yingluk's vanishing trick  - however embarrassing it may be in the short term - is the ideal solution. Instead of becoming a martyr, she has ended up a criminal fugitive like her elder brother, leaving her party divided and in disarray at a time when they should be gearing up for next year's general election.

 

Listen carefully and you'll probably hear champagne corks popping in Government House.

[yellowboat]

14 hours ago, halloween said:

No, he didn't. "Deputy Prime Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan on Friday said he believed that former PM Yingluck Shinawatra had fled the country via the Aranyaprathet border in Sa Kaew province." 

Of course, you may have a definite statement made since Friday evening??

Runaway ex-premier Yingluck Shinawatra is believed to have been secretly driven by car to the border province of Sa Kaew before sneaking out of the country through casinos, Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said Friday.

http://news.thaivisa.com/article/9983/thailand-live-saturday-23-september-2017

 

 

[halloween]

6 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

How did Yingluk see her  "alleged fellow conspirator get a huge jail sentence" prompting her to skip bail when it happened 2 days after she left the country? Fortune teller, crystal ball perhaps?

 

No crystal ball required. She failed to attend court (for what her lawyer said were "medical reasons") later on the same day (Friday, August 25) that five of her fellow accused were handed swingeing jail sentences. 

 

Whose job is it to ensure those on bail don't skip the country, the government, the military, or the police?

 

Academic, but if I had as much egg on my face as the generals I would definitely be looking to pass the buck.

Let's be honest. From the government's viewpoint, Yingluk's vanishing trick  - however embarrassing it may be in the short term - is the ideal solution. Instead of becoming a martyr, she has ended up a criminal fugitive like her elder brother, leaving her party divided and in disarray at a time when they should be gearing up for next year's general election.

 

Listen carefully and you'll probably hear champagne corks popping in Government House.

BS. She was due in court the same time as Boonsong, 9am on the 25th, his verdict wasn't delivered until some time later that day. She left the country on the 23rd, sneaking out of the country like the common criminal she is.

Your accusation of involvement because of some alledged advantage is similarly ridiculous. Try and come up with some facts instead of biased opinion.

[halloween]

49 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

Runaway ex-premier Yingluck Shinawatra is believed to have been secretly driven by car to the border province of Sa Kaew before sneaking out of the country through casinos, Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said Friday.

http://news.thaivisa.com/article/9983/thailand-live-saturday-23-september-2017

 

 

Try to work out the difference between what people believe and what is known to be true. You are allowed to believe anything you like no matter how ridiculous - that doesn't make it true.

[yellowboat]

Just now, halloween said:

Try to work out the difference between what people believe and what is known to be true. You are allowed to believe anything you like no matter how ridiculous - that doesn't make it true.

I said he "asserted".  Assertion: a positive statement or declaration, often without support or reason.   Most wise people would be keeping quiet if they do not know the facts, but not your junta.  They make assertions day and night as there are no repercussions for what they say or do.   You really prefer marshal law over a flawed, direct democracy ?

[halloween]

1 minute ago, yellowboat said:

I said he "asserted".  Assertion: a positive statement or declaration, often without support or reason.   Most wise people would be keeping quiet if they do not know the facts, but not your junta.  They make assertions day and night as there are no repercussions for what they say or do.   You really prefer marshal law over a flawed, direct democracy ?

Yes they would be much better having one spokesman who only deals in fact, but asserting a belief is not stating what happened, only what he believes happened. He could state at the same time he believes in god, reincarnation and fairies at the bottom of the garden, and some people will accept that as true.

The word is martial, and Thailand did not have a "direct democracy" where the people vote on policy. It allegedly had a representative democracy where elected representatives decide policy. In fact, those representatives took payment from a fugitive criminal and allowed him to dictate policy.

Yes, I find a military government more acceptable, until I find them paying billion baht commissions to cronies or similarly corrupt acts.

[Ossy]

41 minutes ago, halloween said:

Yes they would be much better having one spokesman who only deals in fact, but asserting a belief is not stating what happened, only what he believes happened. He could state at the same time he believes in god, reincarnation and fairies at the bottom of the garden, and some people will accept that as true.

The word is martial, and Thailand did not have a "direct democracy" where the people vote on policy. It allegedly had a representative democracy where elected representatives decide policy. In fact, those representatives took payment from a fugitive criminal and allowed him to dictate policy.

Yes, I find a military government more acceptable, until I find them paying billion baht commissions to cronies or similarly corrupt acts.

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Great debate, you guys!

[yellowboat]

1 hour ago, halloween said:

In fact, those representatives took payment from a fugitive criminal and allowed him to dictate policy.

Is that illegal ?  It is immoral.  It is unethical.  If it is illegal, where is the justice system ?

 

1 hour ago, halloween said:

Yes, I find a military government more acceptable, until I find them paying billion baht commissions to cronies or similarly corrupt acts

Isn't the Thai military pandering to the Thai elites just as bad instead of serving the common Thai ?  Did not the good general ask the TAT to focus tourism efforts on Bangkok ?   Aren't all these big infrastructure deals serving the wealthy ?   Why are submarines needed that do not talk to fighter jets that do not talk to missiles that guard against unknown enemies ? 

 

As bad as the Shinawatras are, they were asked to run the government. 

[halloween]

14 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

Is that illegal ?  It is immoral.  It is unethical.  If it is illegal, where is the justice system ?

 

Isn't the Thai military pandering to the Thai elites just as bad instead of serving the common Thai ?  Did not the good general ask the TAT to focus tourism efforts on Bangkok ?   Aren't all these big infrastructure deals serving the wealthy ?   Why are submarines needed that do not talk to fighter jets that do not talk to missiles that guard against unknown enemies ? 

 

As bad as the Shinawatras are, they were asked to run the government. 

Illegal? Not here, and certainly won't be under any Shinawatra government, but illegal in every real democracy AFAIK. Immoral and unethical certainly, but that is PTP and the Shinawatras.

Your perceptions of pandering to the wealthy are based on bias. My in-laws in the Nakhon Phanom area certainly welcome the news of a rail line, most have never seen a train and are far from wealthy. It, and any other infrastrucure improvements, will surely benefit them more than outright theft of government assets.

Before you start criticising the Thai military budget, why don't you look at your own country. Tell us, how does it compare as a percentage of GDP?

 

The Shinawatras were asked to run a government. It wasn't a licence to lie, cheat and steal. But they do, to the tune of billions of baht. You can't deny it, but you are prepared to ignore it. Millions of Thais, and I, are more concerned with this than 'rights'. It's a morality thing.

 

BTW why the selective quoting?

 

Edited September 25, 2017 by halloween

[Eric Loh]

9 minutes ago, halloween said:

The Shinawatras were asked to run a government. It wasn't a licence to lie, cheat and steal. But they do, to the tune of billions of baht. You can't deny it, but you are prepared to ignore it. Millions of Thais, and I, are more concerned with this than 'rights'. It's a morality thing.

 

BTW why the selective quoting?

Don't fret Holloween; all governments including junta governments lie, cheat and steal. Why the selective referencing as though only the Shins' governments cheat. You think the current and previous junta governments are clean? 

[LannaGuy]

13 minutes ago, halloween said:

Illegal? Not here, and certainly won't be under any Shinawatra government, but illegal in every real democracy AFAIK. Immoral and unethical certainly, but that is PTP and the Shinawatras.

Your perceptions of pandering to the wealthy are based on bias. My in-laws in the Nakhon Phanom area certainly welcome the news of a rail line, most have never seen a train and are far from wealthy. It, and any other infrastrucure improvements, will surely benefit them more than outright theft of government assets.

Before you start criticising the Thai military budget, why don't you look at your own country. Tell us, how does it compare as a percentage of GDP?

 

The Shinawatras were asked to run a government. It wasn't a licence to lie, cheat and steal. But they do, to the tune of billions of baht. You can't deny it, but you are prepared to ignore it. Millions of Thais, and I, are more concerned with this than 'rights'. It's a morality thing.

 

BTW why the selective quoting?

 

 

"it's a morality thing"  yet you condone seizing the country by force and putting in your friends and relatives into top positions?  

 

Some "morality" there Halloween  

 

[halloween]

6 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Don't fret Holloween; all governments including junta governments lie, cheat and steal. Why the selective referencing as though only the Shins' governments cheat. You think the current and previous junta governments are clean? 

But they do it a lot less. Which is only my theory, but it will stand until proven wrong. where is the junta's version of Apichart with billion baht commissions, or Boonsong with B30 billion fraud, or Thaksin and his 10 billion baht bank theft?

Edited September 25, 2017 by halloween

[halloween]

5 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

 

"it's a morality thing"  yet you condone seizing the country by force and putting in your friends and relatives into top positions?  

 

Some "morality" there Halloween  

 

Oh please, they removed criminals from office. Would you like me to list the friends and relatives they put into office, often illegally?

[LannaGuy]

3 minutes ago, halloween said:

But they do it a lot less. Which is only my theory, but it will stand until proven wrong. where is the junta's version of Apichart with billion baht commissions, or Boonsong with b30 billion fraud, or Thaksin and his 10 billion baht bank theft?

Well some reporters did ask about your hero's 600 million but were told to shut up and where there's smoke there will surely be fire!  but let's conveniently forget the "statues" the "airship"  and, of course, the "submarines"  eh?

 

You see, and you gloriously miss the point, the press cannot ASK QUESTIONS as the Army has taken over - no demos, no meetings, no political parties and NO ELECTIONS all waaaaaaaaaaaaay over your head

Edited September 25, 2017 by LannaGuy