Formal request needed to trigger Yingluck passport Review: Foreign Ministry

By The Nation

 

 

The Foreign Ministry needs to be formally requested to do so in order to consider revoking the Thai passport of fugitive ex-PM Yingluck Shinawatra, ministry spokesperson Busadee Santipitaks said on Thursday.

If requested, the ministry will consider whether Yingluck’s passport could be revoked in line with the ministerial regulation on passport issuance, Busadee said.

 

According to the regulation, a revocation may proceed if a passport holder faces punishment as a result of a criminal case, is temporarily released or faces an arrest warrant that demonstrates that the courts, police or administrative officers consider that he or she should not be granted a passport.

 

Yingluck was yesterday sentenced to a five-year term of imprisonment without suspension, after being convicted for negligence in oversight of her government’s rice-pledging scheme by the Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Political Office Holders.

 

Busadee refused to provide information on Yingluck’s records for an alleged entry into Dubai, or on reports that she used a diplomatic passport to get entry to the United Kingdom.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30327919

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-09-28

Err, why was her passport not revoked while she was awaiting the Guilty verdict of her trial, given historical precedent? 

Edited September 28, 20178 yr by baboon

41 minutes ago, baboon said:

Err, why was her passport not revoked while she was awaiting the Guilty verdict of her trial, given historical precedent? 

I guess no one had the intelligence or foresight to "officially" request that the Foreign Ministry do so. Not that it matters. I don't for one second believe that the lack of a valid passport would have stopped her from vanishing.

I have wondered many times why people on bail facing long time behind bars are allowed to keep their passports. Not only Yingluck but also the Red Bull son "Boss". He was traveling around the world for 5 years while he was too sick to appear in court. It shouldn't be that much of a surprise that they choose run away instead of going to jail. Older brother Thaksin even managed to get his passport renewed while his sister was PM.

27 minutes ago, milys said:

I have wondered many times why people on bail facing long time behind bars are allowed to keep their passports. Not only Yingluck but also the Red Bull son "Boss". He was traveling around the world for 5 years while he was too sick to appear in court. It shouldn't be that much of a surprise that they choose run away instead of going to jail. Older brother Thaksin even managed to get his passport renewed while his sister was PM.

 

Not the main point but probably true that folks in 'this category' mostly already have 2 or more passports or can easily obtain a second passport. So cancelling their Thai passport doesn't stop them travelling.

For just a moment there I thought..............................................

 

10 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Not the main point but probably true that folks in 'this category' mostly already have 2 or more passports or can easily obtain a second passport. So cancelling their Thai passport doesn't stop them travelling.

So there's no problem cancelling it then. At least if they cancel their Thai passport, it's one fewer thing on the list of negligence. 

6 hours ago, baboon said:

Err, why was her passport not revoked while she was awaiting the Guilty verdict of her trial, given historical precedent? 

I think it is called 'innocent until proven guilty' - revoking her Passport would not have stopped her from leaving anyway I'm sure plus they needed to tread carefully with her supporters.

6 hours ago, baboon said:

Err, why was her passport not revoked while she was awaiting the Guilty verdict of her trial, given historical precedent? 

 

Because no one wants to take responsibility or accountability for anything. So they're certainly not going to show any initiative or be proactive. Much better to wait until they have sufficient paperwork to cover their <deleted>. Never know when the power will switch again!

 

Actually, all those posters who claim the military junta is all powerful - crap. They can't even enforce wearing crash helmets or the prices of lottery tickets let alone get civil servants to be obedient 555! More like Chaplin's Modern Times than 30's Germany. 

2 minutes ago, FitnessHealthTravel said:

I think it is called 'innocent until proven guilty' - revoking her Passport would not have stopped her from leaving anyway I'm sure plus they needed to tread carefully with her supporters.

 

Courts in many countries order passport surrender as a condition of bail. Especially with suspected flight risks.

One minuted she has agreed not to get involved with politics as the little p wanted all along, now revoking her passport, 3.7 years of bulls>>> is really dimming the lights on a few around here, aren't you sick of hearing the brownstuff coming out of the mouths of liars, cheats and the corrupt? I am.

1 hour ago, ratcatcher said:

For just a moment there I thought..............................................

 

 

...I see what you did there.

 

A wig and a pearl necklace...and that could be the very same person...

3 hours ago, DLock said:

 

...I see what you did there.

 

A wig and a pearl necklace...and that could be the very same person...

If you're serious, then you need to visit an optician.

17 hours ago, baboon said:

Err, why was her passport not revoked while she was awaiting the Guilty verdict of her trial, given historical precedent? 

The answer----- look for a big brown paper bag, it is empty now, however DNA tests may reveal it contained notes if you can find it.

11 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

They can't even enforce wearing crash helmets or the prices of lottery tickets

Mate i got news, that's the police's job but since they have better things to do than their jobs nothing will work here.

18 hours ago, webfact said:

If requested, the ministry will consider whether Yingluck’s passport could be revoked

bureaucrats here are truly helpless

Apparently it is easier to overthrow a Democratically elected Government than revoke a passport!

She has a Diplomatic Passport (and, probably a standard PP)so revoking the first might give her some inconvenience especially if she entered the UK on it.

 

Persons who DON'T qualify for a Diplomatic Passport are those with a criminal record and/or an International arrest warrant against them.....

IMO, the Shins have during Thaksin and others related to the family's tenure as PM, not to forget Yingluck, 'installed' countless pawns at positions-of-interest, of course in the RTP, but also, importantly, in key ministries (Justice, Interior, Agriculture, Education, ...Foreign Affairs, etc.), and administrations (national, provincial, ...), even more dangerously in the judicial (OAG, criminal and appeal courts), though they, for a large part, failed in the military (with exceptions, such as the RTAF). Most (when not deceased or retired) of these servants-of-the-Shins'-cause are still in position, or have been promoted with the help of likewise tainted superiors.

There is a real goldmine there for investigative journalism, Thailand is quite poor in, and I alas don't expect any media here to be wanting to bring all these cockroaches in the spotlight, starting a straight confrontation with the still very powerfull Shins' clan, ...and with the hundred (thousands?) of (potential) crooks (expecting their orders) whose name would be exposed and shamed...

It would be great for democracy, and even reconciliation in the longterm, to have such a 'big clean', but, as brave as the Thais might be, when it comes to courage...

On 28/09/2017 at 6:00 PM, darksidedog said:

I guess no one had the intelligence or foresight to "officially" request that the Foreign Ministry do so. Not that it matters. I don't for one second believe that the lack of a valid passport would have stopped her from vanishing.

The whole point was that they wanted her to disappear, as she has done, now to cancel her passport, concreting the path of no return for Yingluck.

 

Could you imagine what would happen if they sent her to prison, I can. This way, the country has remained calm, and she will be a thing of the past in time like her brother, politics at its best, no doubt.