30 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

One would think that IF people would vote for a party that tries to introduce such a bill, they either approve or not disapprove enough to vote for one of the 40 something other parties, hardly rocket science. 

 

It is shocking to see you apparently think disrupting elections, mandated by the constitution is no big deal. in any case none of the previous demonstrators ever did that. Isn't it telling that Suthep first claimed to be the defender of the constitution, then after a week or so made a u-turn and not just demanded Yingluck resignation, but for power to be handed to him, so he could make 'reforms' ? 

 

In any normal democratic country, the protest would be stopped and Suthep would be taken to court. 

I'm 100% against protests.  Please don't say I think otherwise. It's not true.

 

And yes, in any normal democratic country, the protests would be stopped and ALL protest leaders would be in jail.  Including the one who said to bring empty bottles to Bangkok so they could filled with gas and burn the city to the ground.  Remember that one?

2 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

The only constant has been an endless stream of corrupt politicians and government officials.  You are really slow with reality. LOL

 What !!!, no military officers in your corrupt list. You do have a soft spot for the military. 

4 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

 What !!!, no military officers in your corrupt list. You do have a soft spot for the military. 

Ummm....last time I looked, the military was a government organization.  Seems you're just hard on the military.  Plenty of blame to go all around.

 

 

Methinks they will become less of a voice as time goes on. She was only ever a puppet anyway.

Politically they are both finished here & will tire of getting no return on their investment soon.

With that kind of money at their disposal I don't blame them,  can just enjoy life

She is seeking asylum in UK which signal her withdrawal from the political scene.  Thaksin is not seeking asylum which can only mean that he will be active. He still have allies in high government, police and military position and mass support and is still highly popular than Prayut and Ahbisit. Expect him to continue an active role but not sure directly or indirectly. Doubt it will be full frontal role in attacking his enemies but rather tacit form of support for the party and their leaders. 

Lets wait for the end of this month first; if there is some action it will start in four weeks from now - stay tuned! 

1 hour ago, craigt3365 said:

I'm 100% against protests.  Please don't say I think otherwise. It's not true.

 

And yes, in any normal democratic country, the protests would be stopped and ALL protest leaders would be in jail.  Including the one who said to bring empty bottles to Bangkok so they could filled with gas and burn the city to the ground.  Remember that one?

Oh yes, and some of them are in fact in jail. Of course protesting as such is not illegal, what Suthep did was, on several levels, yet he will most certainly not see the inside of a jail cell. And other than say Thaksin and Yingluck, he does not have to flee from Thailand to prevent that from ever happening. That is really all you need to know to understand how things are done here.

 

I saw you mentioning corruption, do you honestly believe politicians are the only ones engaging in corruption ? at least they were bound to a system of checks and balances, at least they needed to obtain an electoral mandate. Fast forward to present day, where the PM himself summarized it perfectly: "I can do whatever I want".

 

No checks and balances, no accountability, literally above the law, drafting their own little charter, and no respect for human rights of their subjects.

 

And this all so they can battle corruption, they ARE corruption. No wonder Thailand's corruption index has worsened. Keep dreaming...

 

Edited October 2, 20178 yr by sjaak327

In history all dictators are reluctant to leave the Buffett that they have provided themselves with. Promises of reforms happiness and a democracy never materialize. If this self appointed PM. Tries to cling on then he deserves to be stirred and shaken

6 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

 Of course protesting as such is not illegal, what Suthep did was, on several levels, yet he will most certainly not see the inside of a jail cell.

 

Agreed.  Same with what the red shirt leaders did.  Illegal. 

On 10/1/2017 at 5:31 AM, bristolgeoff said:

of course she will,once she knows she is safe.just like big brother,they will make many phone calls back to thailand.both of them should have the guts to do the time and then they are free to do what they want outside any government involvement

 

It must warm the cockles of the hearts of all those millions of very poor Thai people to see the owners of the political parties they've been coerced into voting for living safely in such wonderful opulence.

 

And, yes of course, the prize and trough are much too big for that family of many tentacles to ever cease. 

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

 What !!!, no military officers in your corrupt list. You do have a soft spot for the military. 

 

You consider the police not to be corrupt then Eric?

Just now, craigt3365 said:

Agreed.  Same with what the red shirt leaders did.  Illegal. 

And again some of them are in jail. Suthep is not, and never will be. 

 

Remember they murdered almost 100 civilians, because Suthep and Abishit thought it a splendid idea to use the army to control a demonstration. Well the NACC was in a hurry to trump up a charge against Yingluck, yet they did not have time (7 years) to hold those two accountable. Priorities. It's not difficult to see how morally corrupt this country is. and BOTH sides are equally bad. Well actually the other side is worse as they even lack a mandate, but judging from their actions and some idiots publicly stating how the electorate is uneducated, they don't care about the electorate. 

4 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

And again some of them are in jail. Suthep is not, and never will be. 

 

Remember they murdered almost 100 civilians, because Suthep and Abishit thought it a splendid idea to use the army to control a demonstration. Well the NACC was in a hurry to trump up a charge against Yingluck, yet they did not have time (7 years) to hold those two accountable. Priorities. It's not difficult to see how morally corrupt this country is. and BOTH sides are equally bad. Well actually the other side is worse as they even lack a mandate, but judging from their actions and some idiots publicly stating how the electorate is uneducated, they don't care about the electorate. 

Good gosh.  Enough with they murdered civilians.  More like fought back. 

 

At least you admit both sides are equally bad.  Not quite 100% true as the Reds have been much more violent.  Remember the fort in the middle of Sukhumvit? LOL

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4 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

The only constant has been an endless stream of corrupt politicians and government officials.  You are really slow with reality. LOL

At least the Thai could write about it in the newspapers and have a whine. 

It's still all the same faces in politics, they have been part of the endless stream for decades. 

You are really slow with reality if you don't know that. Lol

39 minutes ago, greenchair said:

At least the Thai could write about it in the newspapers and have a whine. 

It's still all the same faces in politics, they have been part of the endless stream for decades. 

You are really slow with reality if you don't know that. Lol

Can't write about it in the newspapers for a variety of reasons.  You're really slow with reality if you don't know that. LOL

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On 10/1/2017 at 12:43 PM, ehs818 said:

To answer the question posed: "Will Shinawatras stir the political pot from abroad"?

 

The short answer is:  Yes

 

The long answer is:  Of course.

 

Aye, or: does a bee stings?

 

Can't wait for them to buzz buzz around the Junta's ears, some good fun to come