where to buy container or thai wood house

[pumpjack]

where in thailand could one buy either a new or 2nd hand wooden thai style 2 bedroom house, simple plan and not too expensive.

alternatively where to buy a container home 2 bedroom 2nd hand or new  .

 

and..what are the pros and cons in buying / living in these types . 

 

maybe better to build a small bricks and mortar  myself with inexpensive materials,  im on budget but i could plan to do bits & bobs over the years , think and treat it as a labour of love ( or hate )  lol

[cheeryble]

No high quality cheap wood.

You can use cheap if all parts are open to inspection (and you do it) and the doors and windows don't swell and shrink too much.

Using old frames is Ok but it will generally be a dark house inside.

Just first thoughts.

[Senechal]

Termites are a pretty big "con" for wooden houses.

 

[kamalabob2]

You might contact this company in Bangkok. They ship used containers to other provinces. They also convert containers to homes and retail use.   http://www.containerkingsthailand.com/

 

[greenchair]

I checked out shipping containers converted to rooms. 

6x6 was going to cost around 200000 baht for a single room. 

The Thai wood houses are about the most expensive housing you can buy.

So I built my own. 

You can get the cpac to lay the hole floor of a 2 bedroom for about 12000 for 4 q so maybe you need about 12 q depending how thick you want it. 

You then buy all the steel yourself and have the builder come and place it  .then put the roof. 

And bang on some weewor board. 

Altogether about 250000 for a nice 2 bed house with kitchen and living. 

My builder is great. 

If you are in Bkk. 

 

[SOUTHERNSTAR]

Okay lets start with the wooden house. Wooden houses are prone to termites if they are made from cheap wood. Teak houses are however ok. The insurance premiums on wooden houses is however very expensive. 

Containers make quick houses but even with the best design and insulation is still very hot.. 

Both options are as expensive and even more expensive than a normal house and have certain draw backs. 

A normal house can be build for under B 10000 per sqm if you do it yourself and use good materials. What we have done was to buy the expensive items over a 12 month period at sales and we saved many thousands (aircons, light fittings, kitchen fittings etc). For example our inverter air cons normal price was B 23 k plus and we bought ours for for B 15 k. 

[cheeryble]

5 hours ago, greenchair said:

I checked out shipping containers converted to rooms. 

6x6 was going to cost around 200000 baht for a single room. 

The Thai wood houses are about the most expensive housing you can buy.

So I built my own. 

You can get the cpac to lay the hole floor of a 2 bedroom for about 12000 for 4 q so maybe you need about 12 q depending how thick you want it. 

You then buy all the steel yourself and have the builder come and place it  .then put the roof. 

And bang on some weewor board. 

Altogether about 250000 for a nice 2 bed house with kitchen and living. 

My builder is great. 

If you are in Bkk. 

 

How many sqm?

 

got some pics and a rough plan please?

 

thx

[greenchair]

5 hours ago, cheeryble said:

How many sqm?

 

got some pics and a rough plan please?

 

thx

 

The Thai builders don't really work to a plan lol. 

Basically , you draw a picture of what you want and give it to the builder. He will give you a quote of which you can usually bargain by about a third. 

He will give you a list of materials you need. 

Usually, he will bring in someone else to do the electric. 

You should buy all materials you need before beginning. And shop around for prices of materials that double when they see a farang. Often times people end up giving money to the builder to go and buy materials. He and the shop will add on the farang price, so can get very expensive. 

They will sell you the most expensive brands. 

Checking prices of steel and concrete mix and blocks on the Internet helped me to get some idea of prices. Will try to post some pics. 

[1FinickyOne]

Teak is not cheap but necessary for building a house, very hard wood that termites do not like... - and those containers, sorry to say, do not look very nice and what about the heat? I would look at a small cement house designed to your needs - 

[greenchair]

5 hours ago, cheeryble said:

How many sqm?

 

got some pics and a rough plan please?

 

thx

 

Mine was a large classroom. 

6×6 and 2x6 storeroom and a stand alone toilet. 

The builder cost 40,000 but I used concrete blocks. 

Since then I have talked to builders that use weewor board with quotes at about 25,000 for a similar structure. 

I got burned a lot with materials. 

Altogether I paid about 

150000 for my building including large windows, and doors and electric. One of the most expensive things was paint. 

Don't buy the cheap stuff, as you must paint 4 coats instead of 2.?

[The Deerhunter]

Try to avoid wood except joinery if you have to.  I have had termites infest doors and windows from the frame.  Concrete and steel only whetever possible, preferably concrete or concrete block walls.  Quick and cheap and with reasonable roof overhang, cooler than fibre cement sheet which is fragile and heats up too much.  Roof insulation is very important. Use the foil backed polyurethane foam stuff. It is less problem with vermin than any of the fibreglass bats type stuff. When it comes to painting concrete follow the instructions on the tin and do not over dilute the sealer.primer the way Thais will tell you to.or you will regret it for years.  I do!!!!

[seancbk]

http://www.inspiremore.com/shipping-container-home/

[EcigAmateur]

On 10/6/2017 at 6:58 PM, greenchair said:

I checked out shipping containers converted to rooms. 

6x6 was going to cost around 200000 baht for a single room. 

The Thai wood houses are about the most expensive housing you can buy.

So I built my own. 

You can get the cpac to lay the hole floor of a 2 bedroom for about 12000 for 4 q so maybe you need about 12 q depending how thick you want it. 

You then buy all the steel yourself and have the builder come and place it  .then put the roof. 

And bang on some weewor board. 

Altogether about 250000 for a nice 2 bed house with kitchen and living. 

My builder is great. 

If you are in Bkk. 

 

 

Hello, can I know how to contact your builder ? Thank you so much.

 

 

 

 

[greenchair]

5 hours ago, EcigAmateur said:

 

Hello, can I know how to contact your builder ? Thank you so much.

 

 

 

 

Ok are you in Bangkok 

[EcigAmateur]

17 hours ago, greenchair said:

Ok are you in Bangkok 

 

yes, and I can go to meet you or your builder if you wish. thanks again.

 

[Khun Jean]

One of my projects i am currently working on is to build a house made from seacontainers.

I currently have five of them. All 20ft as they are much easier to transport and place.

The empty ones can be bought for as little as 25.000 baht but don't expect it to be in any good order.

Better ones are about 35.000-40.000 baht. They will have working doors, not to many bumps and not as much rust.

One of the drawbacks is that they are only 235cm wide internally. This is very narrow and does not work very well for building 'units' that can combine into a house. My solution is to build 'units' with two containers. They are then 470cm wide and almost 600cm long. This size can be easily used as a living room, kitchen/dining room, master bedroom etc.

Currently working on the 'master bedroom' 'unit'. It will have a walk in closet and bathroom. Next up will be the kitchen/dining room. Probably take a few months but i am working on them only 1-2 days a week. If you have time and the will to build yourself then a container is a great way to build your own house. Structurally it will be very strong and you can work on them one by one.

[cheeryble]

7 hours ago, Khun Jean said:

One of my projects i am currently working on is to build a house made from seacontainers.

I currently have five of them. All 20ft as they are much easier to transport and place.

The empty ones can be bought for as little as 25.000 baht but don't expect it to be in any good order.

Better ones are about 35.000-40.000 baht. They will have working doors, not to many bumps and not as much rust.

One of the drawbacks is that they are only 235cm wide internally. This is very narrow and does not work very well for building 'units' that can combine into a house. My solution is to build 'units' with two containers. They are then 470cm wide and almost 600cm long. This size can be easily used as a living room, kitchen/dining room, master bedroom etc.

Currently working on the 'master bedroom' 'unit'. It will have a walk in closet and bathroom. Next up will be the kitchen/dining room. Probably take a few months but i am working on them only 1-2 days a week. If you have time and the will to build yourself then a container is a great way to build your own house. Structurally it will be very strong and you can work on them one by one.

Hi Kh Jean

 

All power to you, but a genuine question.

From looking at a couple of youtubes it looks to me that though one doesn't need more than poured blocks for foundations and one gets an instant strong basic structure, there is so much work to be done on insulation and preparing all surfaces/windows/doors/roof/elec/water it looks like as much work and expense as a regular build.

This could be offset by the advantage of mobility in future (though sadly I think our end of garden plot through trees would make delivery/pickup very difficult, a shame as I had at least thought of a storage container with very little done to it).

 

Any comment why you went with the containers? (and good luck....would be interested to follow your work if you posted it somewhere)

[Khun Jean]

One of the main reasons is that i want to do most myself.

Seen enough shoddy work to be completely cured from the idea of hiring someone to build my house.

I have the containers in my garden and can work on it whenever i please.

Some tools i bought makes it easier, like a plasma cutter, cold saw, grinder etc.

Still have to learn how to weld. :)

Windows/doors can be bought standard in Homepro/Thai Watsadu/Global House etc.

I will make sure they fit right, are fitted correctly without using 2cm caulk etc.

A roof that will not leak, insulation to keep out the heat. Floor tiles without tripping over the lippage.

Bathroom floor that actually slopes to the drain, windows that close and not leave open spaces for insects, noise and hot air to enter.

Electricity sockets and switches that are wired correctly so that it is not a hazard to live in your own house.

Sliding doors mounted the right way so that they can not just be lifted out from the outside.

It goes on and on. And i want to prevent most if not all of that.

 

Most houses i have seen and that includes ones that are 6Mb and even 17Mb are depressingly bad quality.

I guess the concrete was never tested for slump and they just used what they got. (Often too much water which results in weak concrete).

Lots of slabs are even without rebar! The mind boggles how many mistakes are made.

As i intend to live in it for at least 20 years i decided that i can do without sub standard work as it will be a constant irritation.

 

The main reason is to have a quality house later. The price will be a bit higher.

Being somewhat portable is nice as maybe in some years i get bored of the place and would like to move.

 

I have been to a few companies that build container 'houses' and was not impressed at all. Slamming some panels on the ceiling/walls does not make a house.

Often 20ft containers are really 40ft containers cut in half and the corten steel beams are substituted for standard mild steel. The whole point about the sea container is that the steel is resistant to corrosion. Again so many shortcuts and trying to save a few hundred baht by choosing the wrong materials.

[Pattaya46]

On ‎07‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 6:19 AM, kenk24 said:

Teak is not cheap but necessary for building a house, very hard wood that termites do not like... - and those containers, sorry to say, do not look very nice and what about the heat? I would look at a small cement house designed to your needs - 

Advantage of wood or container houses is that you can (usually) move them, if by example the land owner doesn't want to renew the lease or if the environment is not nice & friendly anymore.

More or less easy, depending on how you built it, but you can move it.

[EcigAmateur]

16 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

Advantage of wood or container houses is that you can (usually) move them, if by example the land owner doesn't want to renew the lease or if the environment is not nice & friendly anymore.

More or less easy, depending on how you built it, but you can move it.

 

A lot smarter to keep it easy to move. Knowing that you can move anytime the land owner, if he has a brain, won't be looking for much troubles or higher rent...