Teaching from the putative 'marriage visa'.

[mommysboy]

By marriage visa, I do of course mean the extension of stay reason 'Thai wife' that is attached to a non imm o visa.

 

Like many I understand roughly what the process would be for legally working in Thailand as a teacher- having won the job, you apply for a non immigrant B visa submitting relevant documents, and from there go through a work permit and License waiver process from different departments.

 

But recently it has come to my attention that one can obtain a work permit from a non- immigrant 'o' visa when married to a Thai.

 

What is the difference in the process?  I'm guessing you just skip the initial visa application process, since you already have a suitable vehicle on which to attach a work permit.

 

I suppose I'm really asking a teacher to take me through their experience if possible.

[ubonjoe]

As far as the work permit and teachers license their would not be any difference if you had a extension of stay or a non-o visa based upon marriage. For the work permit application a copy of your marriage certificate would need to be submitted to prove the reason you have the non-o visa.

If you used the 400k baht in bank option to apply for the extension based upon marriage there would no reason to inform immigration you were teaching. You could though use you income from teaching to meet the 40k baht income requirement if you salary was that amount or more by showing your work permit and tax payment receipts.

 

[Moti24]

15 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

As far as the work permit and teachers license their would not be any difference if you had a extension of stay or a non-o visa based upon marriage. For the work permit application a copy of your marriage certificate would need to be submitted to prove the reason you have the non-o visa.

If you used the 400k baht in bank option to apply for the extension based upon marriage there would no reason to inform immigration you were teaching. You could though use you income from teaching to meet the 40k baht income requirement if you salary was that amount or more by showing your work permit and tax payment receipts.

 

I worked with a Non-B for 8 years.  When I moved, at the same time changing to a spousal extension, I was unable to get a work permit because the teachers' council would not issue a teachers' license with a spousal extension; no teachers' license, no work permit.  The only option was to change back to a Non-B.  The OP will need to get his school to check with the teachers' council.

[Pilotman]

Does this apply for University lecture posts, part time, not full time? I am on a Non O visa,  but I have been asked to lecture on a part time basis, but the Uni don't appear to know the process and neither do it. 

[ubonjoe]

19 minutes ago, Moti24 said:

I worked with a Non-B for 8 years.  When I moved, at the same time changing to a spousal extension, I was unable to get a work permit because the teachers' council would not issue a teachers' license with a spousal extension; no teachers' license, no work permit.  The only option was to change back to a Non-B.  The OP will need to get his school to check with the teachers' council.

I have read of others having that problem but was able to get it sorted out when they were convinced that the only visa requirement was a non immigrant visa entry not only a non-b visa.

[Moti24]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I have read of others having that problem but was able to get it sorted out when they were convinced that the only visa requirement was a non immigrant visa entry not only a non-b visa.

I don't doubt that, but I know a couple of teachers who had the same problem, and they weren't even in the same province.  You know what the immigration is like - Ask 3 people from the same office the same question and you'll get 3 different answers; the Teachers' Council is probably no different.

[NOWHERE]

Pardon my ignorance. So there are ways to legally working in Thailand by being married to a Thai?

[Mattd]

14 minutes ago, NOWHERE said:

Pardon my ignorance. So there are ways to legally working in Thailand by being married to a Thai?

You are still required to have a work permit, being married to a Thai doesn't change that part at all.

 

[ubonjoe]

11 minutes ago, NOWHERE said:

Pardon my ignorance. So there are ways to legally working in Thailand by being married to a Thai?

Being married to a Thai only makes some things easier. 

It does reduce the registered capital needed to get a work permit from 2 million baht to 1 million baht and at at some work permit offices only 2 Thai employees are needed instead of 4.

You can get a work permit and work with a non-o visa or extension of stay based upon marriage instead having to get a non-b visa or a extension of stay based upon working.

 

[NOWHERE]

2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Being married to a Thai only makes some things easier. 

It does reduce the registered capital needed to get a work permit from 2 million baht to 1 million baht and at at some work permit offices only 2 Thai employees are needed instead of 4.

You can get a work permit and work with a non-o visa or extension of stay based upon marriage instead having to get a non-b visa or a extension of stay based upon working.

 

Thank you. I understand. 

[AGareth2]

I have been on a non o extension for 7 years

my HR dep tried to get me to provide docs for a non o marriage...

I said no!

provide the docs for a non B

went to immigration, smooth as silk, after the 6 hour cue!

work permit came back yesterday

still on a non o extension

oh by the way I am a uni lecturer

[tryasimight]

5 hours ago, AGareth2 said:

I have been on a non o extension for 7 years

my HR dep tried to get me to provide docs for a non o marriage...

I said no!

provide the docs for a non B

went to immigration, smooth as silk, after the 6 hour cue!

work permit came back yesterday

still on a non o extension

oh by the way I am a uni lecturer

I've read your post a couple of times and I'm still puzzled. You are on a Non o extension but have a Non b visa?

[AGareth2]

1 minute ago, tryasimight said:

I've read your post a couple of times and I'm still puzzled. You are on a Non o extension but have a Non b visa?

no no no

I have an extension on my o visa

[tryasimight]

2 minutes ago, AGareth2 said:

no no no

I have an extension on my o visa

Ok thanks

[mommysboy]

11 minutes ago, AGareth2 said:

no no no

I have an extension on my o visa

 

I'm a bit confused too.  You already had an 'o' with a 'Thai wife' stamp, aka, marriage visa, and you just needed to apply for a work permit and Teacher's License Waiver. 

 

Why did you have to go to immigration?  What documents did you have to submit- other than the normal ones for marriage visa?

 

Did this just coincide with your renewal?

 

Edit: Thinking about it : Are you sure you are not getting immigration mixed up with The Ministry of Labour?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mrwebb8825]

Been on married visa and extensions for 7 years and have never had an issue working as a teacher. Labor dept. doesn't require marriage licence as you don't need a "work permit" to be married. (although some may consider it work) TCT doesn't give 2 shits if you're married as the licence/waiver must be obtained BEFORE you can process a work permit to be a teacher.

These 3 departments are not concerned with each other if you are working on a Non-O visa/extension.

http://www.thaiworkpermit.com/work-permit-documents-new-renew.html