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U.S. diplomacy with North Korea to continue until 'first bomb drops' - Tillerson

By Sarah N. Lynch

 

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson pauses in his remarks welcoming Organization of American States (OAS) Secretary General Luis Almagro (not pictured), prior to a bilateral meeting, at the State Department, in Washington, U.S., October 13, 2017. REUTERS/Mike Theiler

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Sunday that President Donald Trump had instructed him to continue diplomatic efforts to calm rising tensions with North Korea, saying "those diplomatic efforts will continue until the first bomb drops."

 

Speaking on CNN's "State of the Union," Tillerson downplayed messages that President Trump had previously posted on Twitter suggesting Tillerson was wasting his time trying to negotiate with "Little Rocket Man," a derogatory nickname Trump has coined for North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un.

 

Trump "has made it clear to me to continue my diplomatic efforts," Tillerson said.

 

Tillerson's comments Sunday come amid soaring tensions between the United States and North Korea following a series of weapons tests by Pyongyang and a war of words between the two countries' leaders.

 

North Korea has conducted a series of nuclear tests in recent weeks and ago and launched two missiles over Japan.

Tillerson has been in talks with China to enlist its help on getting North Korea to back down.

 

But Trump's recent Twitter messages appeared to undercut Tillerson's efforts, prompting the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker to complain that Trump was publicly castrating Tillerson and hurting diplomatic talks.

 

Tillerson downplayed those tweets Sunday, telling CNN that Trump and China's President Xi Jinping have an extremely close relationship and that China understands the U.S. position.

 

"Rest assured that the Chinese are not confused in any way" about the American policy towards North Korea, he added.

(Reporting by Sarah N. Lynch; Editing by Andrew Hay)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-10-16

[craigt3365]

Poor Tillerson is fighting this thing on 2 fronts!  NK and Trump!

[Boon Mee]

If Rocket Man strikes Guam, there's going to be bloodshed. 

[boomerangutang]

US diplomatic credence is in the cellar.  

[craigt3365]

Just now, Boon Mee said:

If Rocket Man strikes Guam, there's going to be bloodshed. 

Doubt he'll do that.  He knows it's instant destruction for him.  Kim may be a cold hearted killer, but he's not stupid.  Trump may be a...(too many negative terms to list)....but he's not stupid either.

[grumbleweed]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

U.S. diplomacy with North Korea to continue until 'first bomb drops'

WOW! Wonders never cease: The Americans have finally discovered that dropping bombs isn't very diplomatic

[craigt3365]

22 minutes ago, grumbleweed said:

WOW! Wonders never cease: The Americans have finally discovered that dropping bombs isn't very diplomatic

Where did they ever say it was....

[LannaGuy]

'Until first bomb drops' sounds like a prediction

[baboon]

Just now, LannaGuy said:

'Until first bomb drops' sounds like a prediction

Strikes me as an adult making a sensible attempt at cooling things down, to be honest.

[LannaGuy]

3 minutes ago, baboon said:

Strikes me as an adult making a sensible attempt at cooling things down, to be honest.

 

Doesn't seem the normal diplomatic language but hope it works out. Dim Kim just needs to cool down the rhetoric and threats.

[craigt3365]

Another reason to stop this rogue regime.  Nuclear weapons is but one reason.  Though the most important.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/15/world/asia/north-korea-hacking-cyber-sony.html
 

Quote

 

When North Korean hackers tried to steal $1 billion from the New York Federal Reserve last year, only a spelling error stopped them.

 

Then only sheer luck enabled a 22-year-old British hacker to defuse the biggest North Korean cyberattack to date, a ransomware attack last May that failed to generate much cash but brought down hundreds of thousands of computers across dozens of countries — and briefly crippled Britain’s National Health Service.

 

Their track record is mixed, but North Korea’s army of more than 6,000 hackers is undeniably persistent, and undeniably improving, according to American and British security officials who have traced these attacks and others back to the North.

 

 

[baboon]

7 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Another reason to stop this rogue regime.  Nuclear weapons is but one reason.  Though the most important.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/15/world/asia/north-korea-hacking-cyber-sony.html
 

 

"While American and South Korean officials often express outrage about North Korea's cyberactivities, they rarely talk about their own - and whether that helps fuel the cyber arms race."

[craigt3365]

22 minutes ago, baboon said:

"While American and South Korean officials often express outrage about North Korea's cyberactivities, they rarely talk about their own - and whether that helps fuel the cyber arms race."

Ummm....a bit of a difference between trying to figure out what nutty Kim is up to from a criminal point of view and hacking a bank for 1 billion dollars.  Sad you don't understand the difference.

[baboon]

1 hour ago, craigt3365 said:

Ummm....a bit of a difference between trying to figure out what nutty Kim is up to from a criminal point of view and hacking a bank for 1 billion dollars.  Sad you don't understand the difference.

Double standards as usual. 'Whatever we do is fine. Whatever the other side does is an outrage'.

[craigt3365]

33 minutes ago, baboon said:

Double standards as usual. 'Whatever we do is fine. Whatever the other side does is an outrage'.

Hmmm...let's see.  North Korea is hacking countries and business all around the world.  It's illegal and they do it to make money.  But you seem OK with it.  Ok...

 

The US is trying to map out their military networks for protection in case NK decides to attack somewhere in the world.  But you are against that.  The US isn't doing this to make money.  Just for "self-preservation".

 

Absolutely bizarre you defend this guy so strongly.

[baboon]

14 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Hmmm...let's see.  North Korea is hacking countries and business all around the world.  It's illegal and they do it to make money.  But you seem OK with it.  Ok...

 

The US is trying to map out their military networks for protection in case NK decides to attack somewhere in the world.  But you are against that.  The US isn't doing this to make money.  Just for "self-preservation".

 

Absolutely bizarre you defend this guy so strongly.

Double standards as usual. 'Whatever we do is fine. Whatever the other side does is an outrage'.

https://securitytoday.com/articles/2017/03/03/top-5-countries-where-cyber-attacks-originate.aspx?m=1

The US comes in at number two after China.

Edited October 16, 2017 by baboon

[craigt3365]

1 minute ago, baboon said:

Double standards as usual. 'Whatever we do is fine. Whatever the other side does is an outrage'.

NK is welcome to try and hack US military computers.  Leave everything else alone.  The US isn't hacking a bank and stealing money.  NK is. 

 

I shouldn't expect more coming from a guy who use to have Mugabe's picture as an avatar. You seem to gravitate towards brutal dictators. LOL

[FitnessHealthTravel]

4 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

If Rocket Man strikes Guam, there's going to be bloodshed. 

Little Rocket Man.

[Srikcir]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

U.S. diplomacy with North Korea to continue until 'first bomb drops' - Tillerson

Whose bombs - North Korea or US?

Or will it be another "moron" bomb that Trump leaps over diplomatic efforts and orders a first strike?

[craigt3365]

On 10/16/2017 at 9:13 AM, LannaGuy said:

 

Doesn't seem the normal diplomatic language but hope it works out. Dim Kim just needs to cool down the rhetoric and threats.

Both need to cool down the rhetoric.  Trump's new to this game.  Kim's been making threats like this for years.

Edited October 17, 2017 by craigt3365

[craigt3365]

On 10/16/2017 at 11:54 AM, baboon said:

Double standards as usual. 'Whatever we do is fine. Whatever the other side does is an outrage'.

https://securitytoday.com/articles/2017/03/03/top-5-countries-where-cyber-attacks-originate.aspx?m=1

The US comes in at number two after China.

Perhaps you need to read that article a bit closer.  China's hacks are state sponsored and go primarily after the US government.  Those in the US are done by individuals, and are not state sponsored.  Hope you understand the difference.  We'll see...

 

North Korea's attacks are all state sponsored.  So yes, outrage at their governments for allowing this to happen is appropriate.

 

Excellent article.  I'll bookmark it!  Even though this is totally off topic. LOL

[baboon]

19 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

Perhaps you need to read that article a bit closer.  China's hacks are state sponsored and go primarily after the US government.  Those in the US are done by individuals, and are not state sponsored.  Hope you understand the difference.  We'll see...

 

North Korea's attacks are all state sponsored.  So yes, outrage at their governments for allowing this to happen is appropriate.

 

Excellent article.  I'll bookmark it!  Even though this is totally off topic. LOL

Double standards as usual. 'We would never do such a thing and when we do, it is nothing to do with us. Yes, we are number 2 on the list but that is the fault of others. Everything is the fault of others.'

[craigt3365]

4 hours ago, baboon said:

Double standards as usual. 'We would never do such a thing and when we do, it is nothing to do with us. Yes, we are number 2 on the list but that is the fault of others. Everything is the fault of others.'

Please show me where the US has hacked into a banking system to steal 1 billion dollars.  Or hacked into a movie studio.  Or....just one link will do.

 

Otherwise, it's not double standards.  It's you not being able to see the difference.  Military hacks are one thing, and both countries are doing that.  Hacking commercial enterprises of other countries for financial gain is an entirely another matter. Your love for Kim is blinding you to reality.

[Andaman Al]

LMAO............Watch this guy NAIL the situation on the head as far as Trump is concerned! Just watch the first 2 mins of the video until the comment about "Ivanka", after that watch at your leisure. The guy saying this needs to be on every channel! Awesome! I really hope Donald watched this!

 

 

[coulson]

On 10/16/2017 at 7:55 AM, craigt3365 said:

Doubt he'll do that.  He knows it's instant destruction for him.  Kim may be a cold hearted killer, but he's not stupid.  Trump may be a...(too many negative terms to list)....but he's not stupid either.

They are both <deleted> retarded.

Edited October 23, 2017 by metisdead
Profanity removed.

[craigt3365]

6 hours ago, Andaman Al said:

LMAO............Watch this guy NAIL the situation on the head as far as Trump is concerned! Just watch the first 2 mins of the video until the comment about "Ivanka", after that watch at your leisure. The guy saying this needs to be on every channel! Awesome! I really hope Donald watched this!

 

Love it.  If Trump's kids were at risk for being on the front line, I bet his BS tweets would stop! LOL.

 

[Scott]

Post from an questionable source has been removed.  

 

Just because you found it on the internet it doesn't make it true.