Thousand of tourists complaining but Thais doing a great job, say Thai Rath

[chama]

The Thai police are the one problem with visiting Thailand that cannot be overlooked. There are some honest hardworking police officers but there are far too many that are corrupt and looking to take advantage of people, both Thai and foreigners, although foreigners are the bigger target. Visitors are often better off dealing with the non uniformed criminals than those in uniform.

[YetAnother]

On 10/16/2017 at 11:32 AM, MadMuhammad said:

lodge a complaint about the Chinese rudeness and disrespect on display most of the time they’re in the country.

i live on the fringe of a very well known tourist area and in the course of normal people watching my friends and i have profiled the chinese tourists and we avoid them at any opportunity, they come in our restaurants/beer-sipping places and we leave

[burgdawg]

...the Chinese influx of tourists will sooner or later---be driving many falangs to rural moobahns, or straight back to their falang countries. The public spitting alone is very disgusting. Adios Thailand.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎10‎/‎16‎/‎2017 at 10:40 AM, worgeordie said:

"Thousand of tourists complaining but Thais doing a great job," say Thai Rath

That headline does not make sense,if they had been doing a good job ,they would

not get so many complaints,the seem to be putting the blame on Chinese tour operators,

regards Worgeordie

The headline refers to "tourists", but the article refers only to Chinese. In truth, ALL tourists can be vulnerable to Thai criminals, such as the jet ski scammers, the m'bike rental scammers, the jewel scammers, the "dropping a cigarette" scammers ( and the soon to be "smoking on the beach" scammers ) and the list goes on and on.

Yet only zero tour Chinese are apparently of concern.

Outside a certain shopping mall in Chiang Mai a scam happens every day with the red songtheaws that demand an extortionate amount for a ride, simply because there is no alternative public transport. 100 minimum per person for a trip back to town ( and not moving till a full load of unfortunates ), while Grab charges 80 baht for the trip, for everyone in the car total. No wonder they hate Grab and Uber.

BTW, in Pattaya baht buses on the Nth Rd run will wait till they have a full load, but they only charge 10 baht each.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎11‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 10:51 AM, burgdawg said:

...the Chinese influx of tourists will sooner or later---be driving many falangs to rural moobahns, or straight back to their falang countries. The public spitting alone is very disgusting. Adios Thailand.

I don't know what this anti Chinese tirade is about. There are many Chinese tourists in Chiang Mai, but I don't see them behaving as complained about. Plus many of the wimmin are DDG.

Even the Chinese crocodiles on Pattaya Walking Street are noticeably a spit free tour group.

[bendejo]

On 10/15/2017 at 8:21 PM, webfact said:

Many Chinese tourists complain to their authorities about problems in Thailand when they get home

 

Imagine going home to Farangland and going to a police station to report that you had your pocket picked in Bangkok....

 

 

[Media1]

On 16/10/2017 at 10:37 AM, ezzra said:

In the defense of the police and law enforcement agencies can be said

that they have tried to tackle  and arrest the problems but the Thai

justice system and the courts saw no faults with the way the zero

dollar tour people

have been conducting their business and thus the police are now

powerless to do anything about these complaints....

Haha the corrupt courts and Prayut strict non reform policies 

[The manic]

Its the Thai Chinese ripping off the chinese

[Mickmouse1]

Thai always doing a good job. Tourists always complaining.

Thai happy happy.

Tourists lose and spend money. 

Thai take take money.

Tourists sombre face&unhappy losing $$££€€¥¥₩.

Thai smile smile taking "Bloody" tourist's  $£€¥₩??=headline

[asiaexpat]

Pot calling the kettle black. Take a tour in China, or even go it alone, and you will encounter numerous scams and cheats. Besides, most of the zero cost tour operators are Chinese.

[phetpeter]

These types of tours go on everywhere, The parents when on a coach tour of Ireland, with the intention of skipping two days of the tour,to visit my fathers family in county Clare where the tour was to spend two nights at a hotel on the Galway bay, The first day to the cliffs and the second day a few places round the area. The first sign of a problem was in Limerick when the coach stopped at a gift shop come restaurant, and my mother decided that the shop opposite looked more appealing, The tour guide physically grabbed them in the middle of the road and tried to drag them back to their shop. The following day when they said they would be on the coach and would join them they following day at their next location, nearly had them calling the police. I drove coach tours for many years and some tour operators told us to only go to certain locations even if it meant the passengers having to stay on the coach longer and the tour stops refreshments  etc., where later than usual. We herded them around, got them up at seriously early times, departed at 6 am etc. and when in Pattaya I see the Chinese marched down walking street, with their flag bearer. Only to see the escapees a couple of hours later coming back!

[onera1961]

On 10/15/2017 at 11:44 PM, carmine said:

Theres no such newspaper.  

May be The Times (Of London)

[mikebell]

On 16/10/2017 at 10:37 AM, ezzra said:

n the defense of the police and law enforcement agencies

I was in a Pattaya bar last night.  Two young police rolled up on a big bike.  They went to the manager female and collected their monthly fee to allow the bar to play music.  I was told this is a regular monthly payment.

[masuk]

On 16/10/2017 at 2:00 PM, Juan B Tong said:

Chinese complaining?  OK, what's the bad news?

Thailand is not alone in this type of tourism.   In Bali, Indonesia, tour drivers stop at all types of shops selling paintings, carvings, souvenirs.

It's not obvious at the time, but the bus drivers get a good percentage of the sale as commission.

[lvr181]

"Thousand of tourists complaining but Thais doing a great job, say Thai Rath"

 

It appears to me, Thai Rath has very low expectations? 

[Jim walker]

Time to cut down on these long faced Chinese tourists and get more happy faced Russians back again they never complain those that are still alive to go home  

[taipan1949]

I wonder if one of the complainers was the one whose picture was taken while taking a dump on beach road in front of the Fiesta Mall? I think that is the Mall's name

[spidermike007]

Well, there are two components to this. First is, that the tours they are referring to are super cheap package tours, and tend to attract the low end of the Chinese tourist market. They are expecting to get alot, for next to nothing. Of course these tours are going to take them to the gem markets, and other places, where they are paid a high commission. The Chinese do the same thing with the Thais, with their own tours in China. My wife went on one of them, and she was constantly being herded into markets that were grossly overpriced.

 

The second component here is the utter and complete inability for most Thai people to ever own a problem. They dance around a problem, and rarely ever take responsibility for it, being pathologically fearful of losing face. 

 

Face is no doubt, the greatest form of weakness, a human can engage in. Many will say it is societal, cultural, etc. No matter. It is the absolute and complete lack of the ability to introspect, and look within for the source of any problem, shortcoming, conflict, or issue. It is the polar opposite of spirituality, and therefore an absolute scourge on Buddha, and all of the precepts he taught. By practicing face, you are denying your spiritual heritage. You are refusing to man up. To take responsibility for your actions. If a man or a woman cannot, and will not take responsibility for their actions, the problems they create, the mistakes they make, and the issues they involve themselves in, what are they? Are they still an adult? Are they a complete individual, if they allow themselves to be limited by such infinitely small social convention? 

 

Who cares what people think of you? For those of us with high self esteem, it just does not matter. Sure, close friends and family. But strangers on the street? Who gives a rat's butt about this? It means nothing what they think, nor what they say about you. They count for nothing. They are just people, and people you do not know, nor will ever see again. Face is rife with self doubt, and by subscribing to this weakness, and man or woman is made a far lesser person. For those of us with high self esteem, we know who we are. What others think, what society thinks, what a guy or gal thinks, means less than zero.

 

Real men or women, simply own a situation, and take responsibility for their errors or mistakes. Small men, social deviants, or emotional adolescents deflect, obfuscate, attempt to confuse, and do everything in their power to deny that they made a mistake, or that they are responsible in any way, or on any level. They make up narratives about fake news, or alternative facts. Anything to avoid looking within, for the source of the problem. Anything.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎12‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 9:10 AM, phetpeter said:

These types of tours go on everywhere, The parents when on a coach tour of Ireland, with the intention of skipping two days of the tour,to visit my fathers family in county Clare where the tour was to spend two nights at a hotel on the Galway bay, The first day to the cliffs and the second day a few places round the area. The first sign of a problem was in Limerick when the coach stopped at a gift shop come restaurant, and my mother decided that the shop opposite looked more appealing, The tour guide physically grabbed them in the middle of the road and tried to drag them back to their shop. The following day when they said they would be on the coach and would join them they following day at their next location, nearly had them calling the police. I drove coach tours for many years and some tour operators told us to only go to certain locations even if it meant the passengers having to stay on the coach longer and the tour stops refreshments  etc., where later than usual. We herded them around, got them up at seriously early times, departed at 6 am etc. and when in Pattaya I see the Chinese marched down walking street, with their flag bearer. Only to see the escapees a couple of hours later coming back!

I did a day tour to the Great pyramids in Cairo, and we had some free time in the evening to walk around, but we had to be back on the coach at a certain time. Once we were all on the bus, it drove about 100 feet and stopped outside a souvenir shop were we were all herded in to be given a short speech by the shop owner and then expected to buy something. I did not.

[champers]

On 10/16/2017 at 3:26 PM, yellowboat said:

It is happening everywhere in SE Asia, not just Thailand.  Is it illegal to lease hotels, buy and operate buses, and invest in restaurants ?  The only illegal activities will be evading taxes or corrosion.  Without proving that, not much you can do but beat them at their own game.  If you want Chinese customers, go to China.  Waiting passively for them to come and spend money is not going to work. 

The Thai tourist authority is opening new offices in China (BP last weekend). They want to attract higher end tourists who spend more per capita, but also targetting those Chinese cities where most of the population has never been abroad before. 

Now, only 4% of China's population currently have a passport, as that %age rises there will be more and more visitors for years to come from both ends of the economic spectrum.

Edited March 17, 2018 by champers

[bluesofa]

On 16/10/2017 at 12:16 PM, overherebc said:

There was the London Royal Times but I think it was one page and used for fish and chips ?

 

It sounds more like a statement of fact, rather than a newspaper.

[bluesofa]

On 16/10/2017 at 8:04 PM, SpicyMeatball said:

I take it you haven't been around too many Chinese?

Yes, they shuffle their feet (drag their feet like limp <deleted>).

{snipped}

We should start poaching their panda bears! See how they like that!

Japanese are the big consumers of shark fin soup last I heard but I'm sure the Chinese are right in there too. It's all disgusting & inhumane.

I'm sure panda meat would be better roast than poached.

[hansnl]

On 10/16/2017 at 10:40 AM, worgeordie said:

"Thousand of tourists complaining but Thais doing a great job," say Thai Rath

That headline does not make sense,if they had been doing a good job ,they would

not get so many complaints,the seem to be putting the blame on Chinese tour operators,

regards Worgeordie

Isn't that the right place then?

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

On 10/15/2017 at 11:40 PM, worgeordie said:

"Thousand of tourists complaining but Thais doing a great job," say Thai Rath

That headline does not make sense,if they had been doing a good job ,they would

not get so many complaints,the seem to be putting the blame on Chinese tour operators,

regards Worgeordie

the headline should be " thousands of chinese tourists"...than it would all be clear...and if it would be "chinese zero dollar tourists" , it would be even more clear. cause their complains are worth exactly what they paid for their trips to thailand - zero dollar !!!

[flyingtlger]

On 10/15/2017 at 8:21 PM, webfact said:

"zero dollar" tours

You get what you paid for....

[Oziex1]

"Much of the article focused on the problem of "zero dollar" tours that offer below cost price tours to Thailand then fleece tourists once they are here by diverting them to certain businesses operating outside the reach of the revenue department."

 

Outside the reach of the revenue dept? They would be the cash cows of the untouchable well connected lot. RTP, Army, HiSo etc.

[Charlie1]

The great job consists mainly of ironing uniforms and walking around in them.

[DILLIGAD]

The great job consists mainly of ironing uniforms and walking around in them.

You forgot about cutting the grass!


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[KiwiKiwi]

 

Best not to pat yourselves so hard on the back, you'll rick your shoulder.

 

Get a friend to do it for you if you need congratulating.

[billd766]

On 10/16/2017 at 11:44 AM, carmine said:

Theres no such newspaper.  

 

The Times is also known as the London Times.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?ei=jcgxW63FCoud9QPCwKwY&amp;q=london+times+newspaper&amp;oq=london+times+newspaper&amp;gs_l=psy-ab.12...0.0.0.14932.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..64.psy-ab..0.0.0....0.gYeYV2GvekU