China state media attacks Western democracy ahead of Congress

[webfact]

China state media attacks Western democracy ahead of Congress

 

Paramilitary policemen march as people attend a flag-raising ceremony at Tiananmen Square a day before the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party of China begins in Beijing, China, October 17, 2017. REUTERS/Damir Sagolj

 

BEIJING (Reuters) - China's official Xinhua news agency attacked Western democracy as divisive and confrontational on Tuesday, praising on the eve of a key Communist Party Congress the harmony and cooperative nature of the Chinese system.

 

China's constitution enshrines the Communist Party's long-term "leading" role in government, though it allows the existence of various other political parties under what is calls a "multi-party cooperation system". But all are subservient to the Communist Party.

 

Activists who call for pluralism are regularly jailed and criticism of China's authoritarian system silenced.

 

In a lengthy English-language commentary, Xinhua took aim at the "crises and chaos swamp(ing) Western liberal democracy".

 

"Unlike competitive, confrontational Western politics, the CPC and non-Communist parties cooperate with each other, working together for the advancement of socialism and striving to improve the people's standard of living," it said.

 

"The relationship maintains political stability and social harmony and ensures efficient policy making and implementation."

 

China's system leads to social unity not the divisions which are an unavoidable consequence of the adversarial nature of today's Western democracy, Xinhua said.

 

"Endless political backbiting, bickering and policy reversals, which make the hallmarks of liberal democracy, have retarded economic and social progress and ignored the interests of most citizens."

 

Xinhua did not name any countries, but state media has previously cited the examples of Britain's vote to leave the European Union and the election of Donald Trump as U.S. president as examples of why Western democracy is flawed.

 

When Xi Jinping assumed office five years ago, his ascendancy gave many Chinese hope for political reform, mainly due to his folksy style and the legacy of his father, Xi Zhongxun, a former reformist vice-premier.

 

But Xi has overseen a sweeping crackdown on civil society, charging or detaining dozens of rights lawyers and activists who authorities say are a threat to national security and social stability. Internet controls have also been tightened.

 

Xi looks set to further cement his grip on power at the once-in-five-years Congress that opens on Wednesday, promoting key allies and laying out a policy framework for the years ahead.

 

Xinhua said that under the leadership of the party, Chinese-style democracy has never been in better shape.

 

"China has absolutely no need to import the failing party political systems of other countries."

 

"After several hundred years, the Western model is showing its age. It is high time for profound reflection on the ills of a doddering democracy which has precipitated so many of the world's ills and solved so few."

 

(Reporting by Ben Blanchard; Editing by Michael Perry)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-10-17

[boomerangutang]

China is an awful example of democracy, but the US is falling so fast in that realm, it's aiming to make China look good.

 

For whomever gets Netflix, I recommend a film about Roger Stone.  I already knew US democracy was badly flawed, but while watching the Roger Stone film, I realized it was in deep shit, up to its eyebrows.  

[Reigntax]

48 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

China is an awful example of democracy, but the US is falling so fast in that realm, it's aiming to make China look good.

 

For whomever gets Netflix, I recommend a film about Roger Stone.  I already knew US democracy was badly flawed, but while watching the Roger Stone film, I realized it was in deep shit, up to its eyebrows.  

 

Yes, its so "flawed" that its only been going a few hundred years, without military coups, where the majority of people respect the majority decision and in 300 years made the country the most developed in the last century. If only they had someone like the Thai military to provide guidance or China's Communist Party. Image what the alternatives could have achieved, flag following, brain dead, subservant misfits who believe in amulets, black magic, ghosts and the poor life they live now will be rewarded in the next.

 

Yep, US  citizens must live in total regret of the alternative.

Edited October 17, 2017 by Reigntax

[klauskunkel]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

"Unlike competitive, confrontational Western politics, the CPC and non-Communist parties cooperate with each other, working together for the advancement of socialism and striving to improve the people's standard of living," it said.

Does the advancement of socialism and the betterment of living standards support the custom of public defecations, or is that just a side-effect?

[mrdome]

As a Chinese web user once put it so nicely: "[The Chinese government officials] are like a group of eunuchs criticizing the sex life of others."

 

They managed to keep the worst of a socialist regime and merge it with the worst of capitalism, wrecking the country in the process. They treat critics incredibly cruel and as a result Chinese society as a whole is becoming cold and uncaring.

[craigt3365]

Gotta have a bogeyman to keep the minions in order....and their jobs intact.  They attack the West while filling their bank accounts.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/02/chinas-parliament-has-about-100-billionaires-according-to-data-from-the-hurun-report.html

 

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China’s parliament has about 100 billionaires, according to data from the Hurun Report

Here's another fun fact: The richest 209 parliament delegates are each worth more than 2 billion yuan ($300 million) – their combined wealth is equivalent to the annual GDPs of Belgium and Sweden, using World Bank figures on GDP for those countries.

 

By comparison, the U.S. doesn't have a single billionaire in Congress. The wealthiest member, California Republican Darrell Issa, is worth around $440 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

 

 

 

 

 

[boomerangutang]

16 hours ago, Reigntax said:

Yes, its so "flawed" that its only been going a few hundred years, without military coups, where the majority of people respect the majority decision and in 300 years made the country the most developed in the last century. If only they had someone like the Thai military to provide guidance or China's Communist Party. Image what the alternatives could have achieved, flag following, brain dead, subservant misfits who believe in amulets, black magic, ghosts and the poor life they live now will be rewarded in the next. Yep, US  citizens must live in total regret of the alternative.

r u saying China has had democracy for a few hundred years?  It hasn't had democracy nor has it avoided deep calamities for the past 300 years. The closest China ever came to Democracy was a group of old men rubber stamping whatever drivel came out of whatever old man's mouth at the politburo. 

[Srikcir]

18 hours ago, boomerangutang said:

China is an awful example of democracy

Blue is an awful example of green - because blue has no relevance to green. They are separate and distinct colors. From that perspective I agree with you.

But in reality communism is a great example of a system of governance that is the diametric opposite from democracy.

[craigt3365]

33 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Blue is an awful example of green - because blue has no relevance to green. They are separate and distinct colors. From that perspective I agree with you.

But in reality communism is a great example of a system of governance that is the diametric opposite from democracy.

True communism.  Yes.  But China is far from being a true communist country. 

[Rimmer]

A flame and reply have been removed, also a troll post from the same source

[Reigntax]

5 hours ago, boomerangutang said:

r u saying China has had democracy for a few hundred years?  It hasn't had democracy nor has it avoided deep calamities for the past 300 years. The closest China ever came to Democracy was a group of old men rubber stamping whatever drivel came out of whatever old man's mouth at the politburo. 

 

I believe you have failed to comprehend your own post. To assist I have copied below.

 

 "I already knew US democracy was badly flawed, but while watching the Roger Stone film, I realized it was in deep shit, up to its eyebrows. " 

 

From my understanding of English the above quote clearly talks about the US democracy being flawed. How you concluded it referenced either China or democracy I'll have to leave that with you.

Edited October 18, 2017 by Reigntax

[tryasimight]

12 hours ago, craigt3365 said:

Gotta have a bogeyman to keep the minions in order....and their jobs intact.  They attack the West while filling their bank accounts.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/02/chinas-parliament-has-about-100-billionaires-according-to-data-from-the-hurun-report.html

 

 

 

 

 

Err..the exchange rate may prove otherwise

[boomerangutang]

8 hours ago, Reigntax said:

I believe you have failed to comprehend your own post. To assist I have copied below.

 "I already knew US democracy was badly flawed, but while watching the Roger Stone film, I realized it was in deep shit, up to its eyebrows. " 

From my understanding of English the above quote clearly talks about the US democracy being flawed. How you concluded it referenced either China or democracy I'll have to leave that with you.

In a nutshell, here's what I have to say.  Comparing the US democracy with what poses as democracy in China;  The US has had a somewhat well-functioning democracy for a couple of hundred years.  It got better when women and blacks were allowed to vote.  However, in past decades, democracy in the US has gone downhill.  The primary reasons:  unlimited money, and also dirty tricks (mostly by Republicans). It has gone further downhill, due to some candidates conspiring with adversarial foreign governments.

Even with all its flaws and warts, US democracy is better than what happens in China, ....where a thousand old men rubber stamp whatever Dear Leader (of the time) dictates, unquestioning, unanimous.

 

Another way to look at this topic is to gauge how much of a free press there is, and whether ordinary people are able to speak up without punishment.  China fails badly on both counts.

[Publicus]

 

The People's Armed Police are the Party's Gestapo.

 

PAP are 850,000 paramilitary absolute Party loyalists in 48 divisions that exist in each province of the CCP. Each provincial capital has a regiment. Each major city has a battalion. Each county has a company. Everyone in the CCP knows that if you make one move against the one-party state these ruthless troops will kill you on the spot.

 

 

 

When China is at peace, foreigners will submit willingly. Therefore, if one wants to repel external threats, he must first bring internal peace.

—Zhao Pu (922–992), Prime Minister of the Northern Song Dynasty

 

 

The CCP are yet another Chinese dynasty of emperors in business suits. As Chinese dynasties go, the present CCP is a young dynasty and are therefore a nervous dynasty. CIA has determined the domestic security forces get a budget that is larger than the budget for the armed forces.

 

It's first things first for the CCP emperors in business suits behind their high and thick walls of the large ZhongNanHai party-government compound near Tiananmen Square. That is, the absolute control of the population under the pains and penalties of any serious opposition.

 

 

People's Armed Police fire into the home of an unarmed family because they refuse to leave for corrupt land development

 

 

 

People's Armed Police fire on a family that won't leave their home after corrupt county CCP officials jacked up the price of land to sell at a huge profit to their own private development corporation funded by public revenue.

 

https://jamestown.org/program/the-chinese-peoples-armed-police-in-a-time-of-armed-forces-restructuring/

Edited October 18, 2017 by Publicus
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[tonbridgebrit]

Okay, okay, how's this for a comment ?

"America is living proof that democracy, sometimes, doesn't work".  


See, Donald Trump was elected last year, and his victory was certainly democratic. How many Americans here on ThaiVisa hated Trump before that election ? How many still turn up here now, showing their hatred ? And how many backed Trump before the election, but they're not willing to support him now ?  Some of those who backed Trump before the election, and who don't like him now, they're not even willing to turn up here and show themselves. 
 

[Srikcir]

44 minutes ago, tonbridgebrit said:

"America is living proof that democracy, sometimes, doesn't work".

"America is living proof that democracy, sometimes, doesn't work flawlessly."

For over 200 years American democracy has preserved and advanced the freedom and liberties of Americans.

What doesn't always work is the defense of democracy against fascist forces that seek to cow society into authoritarian governance through intimidation and violence.

[craigt3365]

10 hours ago, tryasimight said:

Err..the exchange rate may prove otherwise

The exchange rate is set by those in power!  Those with the money! LOL

[craigt3365]

1 hour ago, tonbridgebrit said:

Okay, okay, how's this for a comment ?

"America is living proof that democracy, sometimes, doesn't work".  


See, Donald Trump was elected last year, and his victory was certainly democratic. How many Americans here on ThaiVisa hated Trump before that election ? How many still turn up here now, showing their hatred ? And how many backed Trump before the election, but they're not willing to support him now ?  Some of those who backed Trump before the election, and who don't like him now, they're not even willing to turn up here and show themselves. 
 

There are plenty of other threads about Trump.  That's not the intent of the OP here.

 

Democracy in the US isn't perfect.  Nobody has ever said that.  But it's way better than the form of government in China.  Proof? How many there are trying to migrate to other countries?  Answer:lots.  How many are trying to migrate INTO China?  Answer:very few.

[tonbridgebrit]

7 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

There are plenty of other threads about Trump.  That's not the intent of the OP here.

 

Democracy in the US isn't perfect.  Nobody has ever said that.  But it's way better than the form of government in China.  Proof? How many there are trying to migrate to other countries?  Answer:lots.  How many are trying to migrate INTO China?  Answer:very few.

The OP is about Chinese state media attacking Western democracy. I really do reckon that America democratically electing Trump gives ammunition to those who want to attack democracy. I might as well point out that there's people who want to attack democracy by pointing out, that Duterte was democratically elected in the Philipinnes.


You've raised the issue of a load of Chinese wanting to migrate to America. Well, I don't think their main reason for going there is because they want the political and religious freedom that America gives them. Their main reason is, is because they can earn more money in America.  

Bit like them Mexicans going to America. Bit like them Philipinos coming into Britain. How many Vietnamese want to leave Vietnam, and enter Britain or America, because they want political freedom ? Surely, none ?  The ones who want to leave Vietnam, they're doing it because they want a job that gives them better wages. You think so ?

[craigt3365]

3 minutes ago, tonbridgebrit said:

The OP is about Chinese state media attacking Western democracy. I really do reckon that America democratically electing Trump gives ammunition to those who want to attack democracy. I might as well point out that there's people who want to attack democracy by pointing out, that Duterte was democratically elected in the Philipinnes.


You've raised the issue of a load of Chinese wanting to migrate to America. Well, I don't think their main reason for going there is because they want the political and religious freedom that America gives them. Their main reason is, is because they can earn more money in America.  

Bit like them Mexicans going to America. Bit like them Philipinos coming into Britain. How many Vietnamese want to leave Vietnam, and enter Britain or America, because they want political freedom ? Surely, none ?  The ones who want to leave Vietnam, they're doing it because they want a job that gives them better wages. You think so ?

Duterte was democratically elected also.  What's the problem?

 

That use to be the case. Move to the US to make money.  Not now.  Many of my Chinese friends in the US are moving back to China as the pay is better!  They hate it, but it's where the money is.  They migrated to the US/UK/??? for a better lifestyle.  If they could do this, they had money.  If you've spent much time in China, you know what the quality of life is there.

 

No comparison to Mexican.  Nor Filipinos. Nor....

[craigt3365]

An example of Chinese state media propaganda.  Pretty sad.

 

http://shanghaiist.com/2017/10/18/no-sexual-harassment-in-china.php

China Daily removes article claiming that sexual harassment is only a problem in the West

[tryasimight]

4 hours ago, tonbridgebrit said:

The OP is about Chinese state media attacking Western democracy. I really do reckon that America democratically electing Trump gives ammunition to those who want to attack democracy. I might as well point out that there's people who want to attack democracy by pointing out, that Duterte was democratically elected in the Philipinnes.


You've raised the issue of a load of Chinese wanting to migrate to America. Well, I don't think their main reason for going there is because they want the political and religious freedom that America gives them. Their main reason is, is because they can earn more money in America.  

Bit like them Mexicans going to America. Bit like them Philipinos coming into Britain. How many Vietnamese want to leave Vietnam, and enter Britain or America, because they want political freedom ? Surely, none ?  The ones who want to leave Vietnam, they're doing it because they want a job that gives them better wages. You think so ?

Bit like UK pensioners coming to Thailand?

[Publicus]

Dictators in their tyranny show how effectively and efficiently their own system works.

 

 

Screenshot of People's Armed Police daily patrol in occupied Fran, er, Tibet

 

 

 

 

People's Armed Police pay a visit to a Tibet village protesting environmental pollution

 

 

 

 

People's Armed Police march for the rising Empire 

 

 

 

 

People's Armed Police enforce disorder in Xinjiang Region which borders Russia and several "Stan" countries in westernmost CCP-PRC.

 

 

 

CCP Boyz in Beijing are but another dynasty of emperors who in the 21st century wear business suits. CCP is a young dynasty trying to rebuild itself so it is a nervous dynasty. Every Chinese dynasty fails inevitably as the current CCP Dynasty will fail. It's in the blood so to speak.

Edited October 19, 2017 by Publicus
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[Scott]

An inflammatory post has been removed.  

[metisdead]

Another off topic trolling post has been removed.  Continue to post in this manner and you can expect a holiday. 

[zydeco]

On 10/19/2017 at 12:47 AM, Publicus said:

The CCP are yet another Chinese dynasty of emperors in business suits. As Chinese dynasties go, the present CCP is a young dynasty and are therefore a nervous dynasty. CIA has determined the domestic security forces get a budget that is larger than the budget for the armed forces.

 

Sometimes, you do get a good point across.

[Dumbastheycome]

On 10/17/2017 at 3:15 PM, Reigntax said:

 

Yes, its so "flawed" that its only been going a few hundred years, without military coups, where the majority of people respect the majority decision and in 300 years made the country the most developed in the last century. If only they had someone like the Thai military to provide guidance or China's Communist Party. Image what the alternatives could have achieved, flag following, brain dead, subservant misfits who believe in amulets, black magic, ghosts and the poor life they live now will be rewarded in the next.

 

Yep, US  citizens must live in total regret of the alternative.

I think  the less  naive US citizens are  already  regretting. To  have  degenerated  to  the  point where  a   minority  vote  elects  a Trump, thousands  are  militarily  posted  to  far places to potentially or  in reality die in arbitrary  concession  to the power play of controlling  corporates  while   to  object  in  the   glorious   name  of   democratic  ideals reaps  the  same  reward  as  that  which   is  encouraged  to   be  scorned  to  no advantage....yes