rooster59 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Ex-PM Berlusconi accused of bribing witness in underage sex case FILE PHOTO: Forza Italia leader Silvio Berlusconi gestures during EPP European People's Party meeting in Fiuggi, Italy, September 17, 2017. REUTERS/Remo Casilli/File Photo TURIN, Italy (Reuters) - A prosecutor asked a court in the northern city of Turin on Friday to charge four-times prime minister Silvio Berlusconi with bribing a witness when he was being tried for paying for sex with a minor. The case is one of seven that form part of the same issue being handled by as many different courts. In the cases, prosecutors allege Berlusconi doled out 10 million euros ($12 million) to corrupt several witnesses at his trial in 2013, in which he was accused of having sex with 17-year-old Moroccan nightclub dancer Karima El Mahroug, better known in Italy by her stage name, Ruby the Heartstealer. Prosecutors in Turin said Berlusconi had paid a former nurse and model, Roberta Bonasia, to give false testimony in the trial. Bonasia is one of more than a dozen women who testified about Berlusconi's so-called "Bunga Bunga" sex parties at his plush residence near Milan, which Berlusconi says were nothing more than elegant dinner parties. The alleged payments to various witnesses are being handled in different courts, according to the location of the banks that received the money. El Mahroug received 7 million euros, prosecutors say. Berlusconi was originally found guilty of paying to have sex with a minor and sentenced to seven years in jail, but the verdict was overturned in 2014 by an appeals court, which ruled that there was no proof he had known Mahroug's age. In this case, both Berlusconi and Bonasia, whom prosecutors also want to put on trial, deny any wrongdoing. Their lawyers were not immediately reachable for comment. The 81-year-old Berlusconi is staging a political comeback ahead of a national election due early next year. His Forza Italia (Go Italy!) party is part of a centre-right coalition that is currently leading opinion polls. Berlusconi's political career has been dogged by non-stop legal battles. After a conviction for tax fraud in 2013, he was barred from office, but this week he asked the European Court of Human Rights this week to overturn the ban. ($1 = 0.8405 euros) -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-11-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I think it is two other fingers that Berlusconi was giving to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Surely a 17 year old pole dancer cannot be an underage innocent victim ! If so then half the world,s adult male population must be quaking in their boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 minute ago, phantomfiddler said: Surely a 17 year old pole dancer cannot be an underage innocent victim ! If so then half the world,s adult male population must be quaking in their boots The charge in question would be bribery not having sex with a minor. So what's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 hour ago, phantomfiddler said: Surely a 17 year old pole dancer cannot be an underage innocent victim ! If so then half the world,s adult male population must be quaking in their boots Regardless; the adult is expected to check these things. Plus the charge now is bribery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NumbNut Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Berlusconi does the best Thunderbirds puppet impersonation eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 hour ago, phantomfiddler said: Surely a 17 year old pole dancer cannot be an underage innocent victim ! Iof s then half the world,s adult male population must be quaking in their boots "...then half the world,s adult male population must be quaking in their boots". Why? In which world does half the male population shag underage pole dancers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanuk711 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 The age of consent in Italy is 13......if the partner is under 18....and consent is 14 for all other ages. Like Thailand it has a rider in the law, Italy --pay for sex and she has to be 18....dont pay for it...14.... The age of consent in Italy is 14 years, with a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 13 and older to engage in sexual activity with partners who are under the age of 18,---Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, sanuk711 said: The age of consent in Italy is 13......if the partner is under 18....and consent is 14 for all other ages. Like Thailand it has a rider in the law, Italy --pay for sex and she has to be 18....dont pay for it...14.... The age of consent in Italy is 14 years, with a close-in-age exception that allows those aged 13 and older to engage in sexual activity with partners who are under the age of 18,---Wikipedia That's interesting information but since the charge being considered is bribery, not really relevant to the case at hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanuk711 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: not really relevant to the case at hand Yes your right......please accept my humble apologies.......... * Edited November 25, 2017 by sanuk711 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanuk711 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I did review it and change before you posted ILMP.....and agin sorry about wandering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandor Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Just Weird said: "...then half the world,s adult male population must be quaking in their boots". Why? In which world does half the male population shag underage pole dancers? ..Pole-land of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Berlusconi is similar personality as Putin and Trump are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiguzzi Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Ruby The Heartstealer was a hottie! IMHO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 2 hours ago, oilinki said: Berlusconi is similar personality as Putin and Trump are. And Erdogan and Duterte and all those other hard-ass wannebe (or actual) dictators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 13 hours ago, ilostmypassword said: That's interesting information but since the charge being considered is bribery, not really relevant to the case at hand. Yes it has 100%,,He's Guilty for having sex with an under age girl, than he tried to bribe himself out of an Conviction,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 12 hours ago, digger70 said: Yes it has 100%,,He's Guilty for having sex with an under age girl, than he tried to bribe himself out of an Conviction,, I'm not sure what you're getting at. He's charged with attempting to bribe a witness, not with bribing himself. Maybe you were attempting to make a joke that doesn't quite work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 14 hours ago, ilostmypassword said: I'm not sure what you're getting at. He's charged with attempting to bribe a witness, not with bribing himself. Maybe you were attempting to make a joke that doesn't quite work? He was attempting to bribe a witness to avoid a conviction for having sex with an under age girl He is guilty for that .He's Also charged for having sex with an under age girl .It's very simple ,same case . I didn't say that he was bribing himself,,I said,he tried to bribe himself out of an Conviction, meaning that he was bribing someone to try to avoid a conviction.Ok maybe I should have worded that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, digger70 said: He was attempting to bribe a witness to avoid a conviction for having sex with an under age girl He is guilty for that .He's Also charged for having sex with an under age girl .It's very simple ,same case . I didn't say that he was bribing himself,,I said,he tried to bribe himself out of an Conviction, meaning that he was bribing someone to try to avoid a conviction.Ok maybe I should have worded that way. My imperfect command of English has failed me again. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said: My imperfect command of English has failed me again. Sorry. Ok, I'll try again, English is not my first language either ,,,,,, He was trying to bribe a witness so that he would not be found guilty and be convicted for his crime, the crime being ,having sex with an under age girl same case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 11/25/2017 at 11:33 AM, phantomfiddler said: Surely a 17 year old pole dancer cannot be an underage innocent victim ! If so then half the world,s adult male population must be quaking in their boots If they are older men sleeping with 17 year old girls, I hope they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran00001 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 25/11/2017 at 3:33 PM, phantomfiddler said: Surely a 17 year old pole dancer cannot be an underage innocent victim ! If so then half the world,s adult male population must be quaking in their boots What he did would also be illegal in this country, soliciting a 17 year old for sex in Italy, Thailand, UK, and no doubt many other countries is illegal. And I really do t think half the adult male population have been having sex with underage prostitutes, I guess we can assume you have though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Berlusconi ?...misbehaving ? ...bribing ?....now this seems really hard to believe !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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