owl sees all Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, AGareth2 said: had they done a similar act in Pakistan they would be dead lynched by a mob probably by fire If they had done that in Dagenham (Essex) they would have been bought drinks all night long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Jingthing said: It is common for more naive Americans to think they have a special shield around them while traveling abroad. The delusion of "American exceptionalism" and all that. They may get this from Fox News type propaganda that occasionally focuses on extraordinary efforts to help some rare particular Americans in trouble abroad that fails to say the truth, that in most cases, the U.S. government can't really do anything (if they even care to try). Most of the people you talk about are the msnbc cnn and lgbt crowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, owl sees all said: If they had done that in Dagenham (Essex) they would have been bought drinks all night long! this is not Essex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, owl sees all said: If they had done that in Dagenham (Essex) they would have been bought drinks all night long! doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 15 hours ago, owl sees all said: If they had done that in Dagenham (Essex) they would have been bought drinks all night long! What is there to flash yer bum at in Dagenham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyDean Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Not naming any names, but I think the few posters here that proclaim their sexual preference every chance they get, or start every post with "my partner and I".... should go to the Bang Yai Lockup and bring their fellow (or fella) gay militants some condoms or even a chastity belt with a seven digit combo. Maybe also take responsibility for promoting immoral acts in a foreign country or period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, AGareth2 said: this is not Essex Likewise this is not Pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 IMO their best option is plead guilty pay the fine hope they get a suspended sentence and get on a plane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, bannork said: What is there to flash yer bum at in Dagenham? There are 4 railway sations, some decent pubs, Dag & Red f/c, the Chase, a couple of old churches ('though think they have been turned into flats) X-keys church (bloody row with those bells every sunday morning) and a new flyover linking London with Dartford river crossing. Plenty of stuff!! Might have other landmarks since I was last there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Kadilo said: Likewise this is not Pakistan. don't know Essex is looking like Pakistan these days read that by 2050 there will be 14 mill in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, AGareth2 said: don't know Essex is looking like Pakistan these days Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, USPatriot said: Most of the people you talk about are the msnbc cnn and lgbt crowed Nope. I'm talking about typical arrogant Americans, quite commonly republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, BuddyDean said: Not naming any names, but I think the few posters here that proclaim their sexual preference every chance they get, or start every post with "my partner and I".... should go to the Bang Yai Lockup and bring their fellow (or fella) gay militants some condoms or even a chastity belt with a seven digit combo. Maybe also take responsibility for promoting immoral acts in a foreign country or period. There it is again. Toxic homophobia. Must be fun to think you're morally superior. Emphasis on think. You most definitely aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, Jingthing said: Nope. I'm talking about typical arrogant Americans, quite commonly republicans. The arrogant Americans I know are democrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, USPatriot said: The arrogant Americans I know are democrats Yeah sure. Nice try. Total fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 don't know Essex is looking like Pakistan these days read that by 2050 there will be 14 mill in the UKYou might want to reconsider your reading material. Or just stop trying to be provoke a reaction.Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, hyku1147 said: One can be forgiven for assuming that LGBT are a majority - until they do some research:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States Consider the definition of hate speech: "Hate speech is speech which attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, sexual orientation, disability, or gender. ... A website which uses hate speech may be called a hate site." Now ponder the following hypothetical exchange. Then ask " why is heterophobic hate speech tolerated?" "Can gay teachers have a negative effect upon children? "Of course not!" "How do you know, has it been scientifically studied?" "Studied by whom - strait male homophobes? I can't stand you sick Neanderthals" What does the legal problems of this couple have to do with your homophobic obsession with opposing gay people to be teachers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Yeah sure. Nice try. Total fail. everyone is entitled to an opinion even you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Yeah sure. Nice try. Total fail. Are you a us citizen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said: You might want to reconsider your reading material. Or just stop trying to be provoke a reaction. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app the BBC you might be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl sees all Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, AGareth2 said: IMO their best option is plead guilty pay the fine hope they get a suspended sentence and get on a plane Just can't agree with this. Laws are not changed by pleading guilty. They must challenge this nonsense. Make these religious nutters see sense. Turn it into an International incident. What's a few years in the slammer anyway if you know you're innocent. People of Thailand; do not despair. It's only the unloved who hate. Your day will come. Edited December 1, 2017 by owl sees all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, bannork said: These guys were obnoxious in their behaviour but I'm willing to wager they will be back in the States within a few months at the latest. That's your opinion. I have no opinion about what's going to happen them. All I know is this -- They pled guilty to the more minor charge with a fine of 5,000 baht each. They are still being held in detention. The authorities are seriously talking about charging them both with two additional VERY SERIOUS crimes, both of which can result in multiple year prison terms. So I have no idea whether those charges will be formally pursued or not, and you don't either. It's worrisome for them though. This seems to be a matter of religious and national FACE now. Edited December 1, 2017 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, owl sees all said: Just can't agree with this. Laws are not changed by pleading guilty. They must challenge this nonsense. Make the religious nutter see sense. Turn it into an International incident. What's a few years in the slammer anyway if you know you're innocent. People of Thailand; do not despair. It's only the unloved who hate. Your day will come. They already pled guilty to the exposure charge with fine. They had to! Pictures. The two new potential serious charges if pursued, well, that's would be a whole new ballgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: This seems to be a matter of religious and national FACE now. worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 5 minutes ago, USPatriot said: Are you a us citizen? Have you ever been a member of the communist party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 the BBC you might be rightLink?Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, hyku1147 said: Why do you spread hate on TV? Pot kettle black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Have you ever been a member of the communist party? Are you an unstable housewife. More than your password is lost. I'll say your not an American and just hate America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 14 hours ago, Jingthing said: That's your opinion. I have no opinion about what's going to happen them. All I know is this -- They pled guilty to the more minor charge with a fine of 5,000 baht each. They are still being held in detention. The authorities are seriously talking about charging them both with two additional VERY SERIOUS crimes, both of which can result in multiple year prison terms. So I have no idea whether those charges will be formally or not, and you don't either. It's worrisome for them though. This seems to be a matter of religious and national FACE now. Jungthing, calm down., you've been in Thailand long enough to know that laws are flexible for Thais with money and foreigners that come from countries with clout if the crime is not serious.. it's a story on Thai Visa today, it's gone tomorrow. I bet it's already yesterday's news in the Thai media. A couple of weeks in the slammer at the most, though I'd give em 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Jail time is inappropriate. Most normal people will agree. Personally, I don't have anything good to say about the pair- perhaps reflect upon the phrase 'time and place'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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